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post #481 of 667

At 1kHz it's nine, its even lower in the highs, around 5 ohms. Hope you got a good amp to pair.

post #482 of 667
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Originally Posted by KamijoIsMyHero View Post
 

At 1kHz it's nine, its even lower in the highs, around 5 ohms. Hope you got a good amp to pair.

Just ordered  Centrance DACport 1 Ohm, I hope that is going to work.

post #483 of 667

I am reporting back:

 

I returned my UM Pro 50 due to a lose connector on one side of the ear piece and ordered Shure SE846 instead. I was hoping they share the same sound signature at least. After missed the Fedex twice and on the 3rd day, I finally got the SE846 today! Centrance DACport 1 Ohm show up at my door step on the same day. Today must be a special day for me, an early Christmas. I could not wait to give both a try, hook up the SE846 out of the headphone out from my MacBook pro. Man, SE846 has similar overall sound signature but more open and transparent. The bass is much cleaner and VERY tight, kiss as hard as Pro 50 but better defined. I will give credit to pro 50's vocal which is a hair more natural as right now. SE846 has better dynamic, overall timbre balance is much flatter than the Pro 50, sound more (right). 

 

Now, throw in the DACPort 1Ohm into the chain, "wow" and "Oh no" at same time! The DACport cleanup the sound and took all the muddiness what so ever away and improved the SE846 in all areas expect bass. The dark sounding SE846 with DACport sound a little bright. It is all personal reference thought. For someone complain about SE846 being dark, muddy, or slow DACport is the golden key for that! 

 

For me (only) who came from LCD-2 V1, I almost wish I could keep a little bit of the boominess of SE846 with this setup, just little bit you know. As now, I also wish the DACport's output is around 2~3 Ohm, just to warm things up. I think i will get after market cables for them and maybe they will improve with more burn-in time.

 

I used the blue filter because I have not change them yet, and Westone star tips.

 

Sum up, I am glad I send the Pro 50 back, and the $300 premium of SE846 is paid off by its performance. I wrote this up because I feel the SE846 deserves. The vocal naturalness of Pro 50 was impressive, I hope the SE846 will catch up in this area with some use.


Edited by Seamaster - 5/1/14 at 11:55pm
post #484 of 667

Would like to hear your feedback again after say a few weeks of burning in your new gear... the brightness of the Dacport 1 should be gone by then.

My UmPro50 has settled down as well after 60 or so days of continuous use. The bass has become tighter, better defined and the highs are a bit more detailed but without adding any listening fatigue.

Overall very pleased with Westone's Um Pro50, I must be lucky as I got a good working sample without any defect.

post #485 of 667
The right driver of my UM3x died on me (the third pair that had this same problem) 2 days ago and I was at my local shop today looking for a replacement. I tried the UM Pro 50 again and I really wanted to like them as I really like the sound signature of the UM3x. I had tried them about a month ago and found the bass a bit over powering and the treble very recessed, but was told the demoed pair wasn't burnt in. The pair I tried today was supposed to have been used for 100+ hour and the sound signature turned out to be the same as the pair I demoed before. The shop assistant told me the treble can be improved with different cabling. I personally don't really believe in it but I did give it a try, and he was kind of right, the treble did improve a little but nowhere good enough. I tried the audio technica IM04, it has very balanced sounding signature like the UM3x but the treble was not very detailed or fine. I liked the Sony XBA-H3, with deeper sounding bass, although the treble is a little harsh, I was willing to overlook that since it cost nearly half of what the IM04 does, however they were out of stock and the shop assistant didn't know when they will get them again. Then he suggested that I should listen to the new UE900s. I have demoed the UE900 before and did not like them at all, but he said UE has changed the sound signature completely with the s model, and he was right, they sounded very similar to the UM3x but with slightly better treble details. I got them right away, they cost around the same as the new UM Pro 30 but I really don't have much faith in Westone anymore with their built quality. Now testing out my new UE900s right out of the box, the treble sounded a little harsh but I guess it will smooth out eventually like the pair I demoed.

I do like Westone products, I've been using them since their UM2 and I liked my Westone 4 and 4R too, but I really don't understand the UM Pro 50, it's not exactly an improvement of the UM3x nor the UM Pro 30, and not even as detailed as the Westone 4 or 4R, and I don't see what they are trying to compete with with the Pro 50 with that kind of asking price. I hope they could do better with the W60 or the future Pro 60. But like what a previous poster mentioned, their built quality is very questionable, much as I loved the UM3x, they kept dying on me, and the same thing happened to 3 of my pairs is to me quite unacceptable.
post #486 of 667
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Originally Posted by Danz03 View Post

The right driver of my UM3x died on me (the third pair that had this same problem) 2 days ago and I was at my local shop today looking for a replacement. I tried the UM Pro 50 again and I really wanted to like them as I really like the sound signature of the UM3x. I had tried them about a month ago and found the bass a bit over powering and the treble very recessed, but was told the demoed pair wasn't burnt in. The pair I tried today was supposed to have been used for 100+ hour and the sound signature turned out to be the same as the pair I demoed before. The shop assistant told me the treble can be improved with different cabling. I personally don't really believe in it but I did give it a try, and he was kind of right, the treble did improve a little but nowhere good enough. I tried the audio technica IM04, it has very balanced sounding signature like the UM3x but the treble was not very detailed or fine. I liked the Sony XBA-H3, with deeper sounding bass, although the treble is a little harsh, I was willing to overlook that since it cost nearly half of what the IM04 does, however they were out of stock and the shop assistant didn't know when they will get them again. Then he suggested that I should listen to the new UE900s. I have demoed the UE900 before and did not like them at all, but he said UE has changed the sound signature completely with the s model, and he was right, they sounded very similar to the UM3x but with slightly better treble details. I got them right away, they cost around the same as the new UM Pro 30 but I really don't have much faith in Westone anymore with their built quality. Now testing out my new UE900s right out of the box, the treble sounded a little harsh but I guess it will smooth out eventually like the pair I demoed.

I do like Westone products, I've been using them since their UM2 and I liked my Westone 4 and 4R too, but I really don't understand the UM Pro 50, it's not exactly an improvement of the UM3x nor the UM Pro 30, and not even as detailed as the Westone 4 or 4R, and I don't see what they are trying to compete with with the Pro 50 with that kind of asking price. I hope they could do better with the W60 or the future Pro 60. But like what a previous poster mentioned, their built quality is very questionable, much as I loved the UM3x, they kept dying on me, and the same thing happened to 3 of my pairs is to me quite unacceptable.

That's pretty unfortunate. I have enjoyed my UM3x-rc on a daily basis for 3+ years. Guess i've been lucky with them.

On the other hand i purchased a Westone 3 and it just took 2 weeks to the rightshell to develop a crack and for distortion to pop up on the right channel. Got a new pair under warranty but i'm kinda worried with Westone build quality.

In my 6+ years of iem usage only Shure stuff have withstood the test of time without a hitch.


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post #487 of 667
I bought the Shure SE530 when they first came out, within 9 months the cable split and the left sound tube broke off, took them back to Shure and never heard from them again, so I swore to never buy any Shure products ever again and got my first Westone, the UM2. I got succumbed to temptation by the SE846 last year and bought them because of the suberb sound quality. I was pleasantly surprised that they were built like a tank, near indistructable, whereas the built quality of westone's products seemed to have worsen. I've stuck with Westone since UM2 till Westone 4r and am even prepared to overlook it for good sound quality, but am truly disappointed with the Pro 50. They are supposed to be reference monitors but seem to have a completely different sound signature from the rest of the UM range. I guess it goes to show more drivers don't always mean better sound quality.
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That's pretty unfortunate. I have enjoyed my UM3x-rc on a daily basis for 3+ years. Guess i've been lucky with them.

On the other hand i purchased a Westone 3 and it just took 2 weeks to the rightshell to develop a crack and for distortion to pop up on the right channel. Got a new pair under warranty but i'm kinda worried with Westone build quality.

In my 6+ years of iem usage only Shure stuff have withstood the test of time without a hitch.


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post #488 of 667

Does anybody know what the stock cable is made of? Copper, SPC or silver? or crystals mined from one of Jupiters moon?

post #489 of 667
Most likely OFC.
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Crap!:mad: In order to prove the genuineness of the unforgivable as well as unforgettably shocking craftsmanship of the UM 50, I have provided photos this time. This is a replacement directly sent from Westone that I received this morning.

 

The left housing has a huge gap that I could easily fit my nails into it, let alone the overwhelmed gule and loose connectors as more than once being mentioned by other members!:mad: Although Westone has provided considerably good after sales services; their representative has promised that the replacement will be inspected by the production manager personally before dispatch. I can't see how could this happen if they really did as what they've said:mad: Beside, there's substantial audible tonal imbalance between the two pieces, the cracked one has little or none low frequency reproduction! This reflects that the insufficient craftsmanship not only affecting its appearance but the internal components and sound quality as well.

 

Man, two in a role and I don't think this is my bad luck, I asked for a refund this time and see how Westone reply!


Edited by Sarurururu - 5/5/14 at 11:08pm
post #491 of 667
Thread Starter 
Well. It doesn't seem to be worth the asking price.. Unlike their previous flagship both the W4R and UM3XRC.
post #492 of 667

Sorry to hear that! I just got off this boat on time!!

post #493 of 667

What's happening with Westone recently?

 

When I bought my pair of UM3X more than 2 years ago, I was fully assured of the quality of product that I was receiving. Heck, I was even salivating at the thought of Westone releasing a universal version of its ES5 customs, as I got the UM3X package.

 

But with these recent developments, I don't think I'm going to plunk down my hard-earned savings into another Westone product. Good thing my UM3Xs have been aging quite well.

post #494 of 667
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Originally Posted by Sarurururu View Post
 

 

 

 

Crap!:mad: In order to prove the genuineness of the unforgivable as well as unforgettably shocking craftsmanship of the UM 50, I have provided photos this time. This is a replacement directly sent from Westone that I received this morning.

 

The left housing has a huge gap that I could easily fit my nails into it, let alone the overwhelmed gule and loose connectors as more than once being mentioned by other members!:mad: Although Westone has provided considerably good after sales services; their representative has promised that the replacement will be inspected by the production manager personally before dispatch. I can't see how could this happen if they really did as what they've said:mad: Beside, there's substantial audible tonal imbalance between the two pieces, the cracked one has little or none low frequency reproduction! This reflects that the insufficient craftsmanship not only affecting its appearance but the internal components and sound quality as well.

 

Man, two in a role and I don't think this is my bad luck, I asked for a refund this time and see how Westone reply!


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post #495 of 667
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Originally Posted by elfary View Post
 


 Only my avatar can convey my thoughts.

True, exactly how I feel.

 

Finally got the reply from Westone and sounds like they'll arrange a refund. They also claim will look at the defected unit, yeah right:rolleyes:, should have done this long before the whole product line was launched to the market.

 

Here comes my question to all members, any alternative recommendation (other than Westone) for AB or hybrid universal fit around the same price range of UM 50? I am a bit interested in UE900s (the new version), any thoughts about that? Thank you guys.


Edited by Sarurururu - 5/7/14 at 6:33pm
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