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post #406 of 657
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When I close my eye music a whole right out side of my head (entend right out side of my ears) but voice is forward and is still in side my head. Clarity (5%) and instrument separation (15%) is less than Meridian G08 + WA22 + LCD-2 + ALO custom cable. Not bad for IEM without amp and stright out of my MacBook Pro. Bass is about right.

Have you also had a chance to listen to W40s? Can you compare their bass response. I've just heard from another um pro 50 user about how fatiguing the bass got over time. I was inclining for these but now this scared me. 

post #407 of 657
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Have you also had a chance to listen to W40s? Can you compare their bass response. I've just heard from another um pro 50 user about how fatiguing the bass got over time. I was inclining for these but now this scared me.

I have not heard W40, sorry. An after market cable can easily tone down the bass if you don't want it. It is the mid-bass thump that give you the fatiguing (if there is one).

 

Also I don't use Comply tip as they close-in the sound and provide too much Bass. I use next size tips that come with IEM from factory that gave me better balance.


Edited by Seamaster - 4/9/14 at 11:01am
post #408 of 657
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The advantage of have very low frequency range is mainly that the response for 20Hz up to 18,000 hz will be a straight with no drops, thus it will have a balanced frequency response. Ur player should only produce consistent power at the range it claims to be enough to enjoy your iem. I think the cowon should be enough, the only thing you should look at is the output impedence which makes UM pro 50 good cause it works well with most player/ and look at out put power. I am worried that your player wont play a 45ohm iem at the desired power. But then its just different tastes of volume


Thanks for your input. I did not consider that the 5Hz range will allow the 20Hz range to stay balanced. This should have much help on the bass frequencies. So I am going to get the ES50 or with for the ES60, I think....

 

the D20 is a 16 Ohms player. It pushes my W4r well enough (good enough at 1/2 volume) and I have demoed a ES5 before ( the shop fitted a universal bud on the ES5 for demo :P, and it's the only shop I found in Hong Kong that does this :D ). The first thing I notices is how much more impact the ES5 is delivering compared to the W4r, which I believed is due to the single larger bass driver.


Edited by realgundam - 4/9/14 at 8:55pm
post #409 of 657

Just checking, anyone used Pro 50 to listen to flute?

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Thanks for your input. I did not consider that the 5Hz range will allow the 20Hz range to stay balanced. This should have much help on the bass frequencies. So I am going to get the ES50 or with for the ES60, I think....

the D20 is a 16 Ohms player. It pushes my W4r well enough (good enough at 1/2 volume) and I have demoed a ES5 before ( the shop fitted a universal bud on the ES5 for demo :P, and it's the only shop I found in Hong Kong that does this biggrin.gif ). The first thing I notices is how much more impact the ES5 is delivering compared to the W4r, which I believed is due to the single larger bass driver.
It's impossible to demo a custom westone iem in Singapore..

How close does it sound as compared to the um pro 50?(if you have demoed one)
post #411 of 657
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It's impossible to demo a custom westone iem in Singapore..

How close does it sound as compared to the um pro 50?(if you have demoed 

 

Hi,instead of asking how similar/different they sound .. I'd like to ask you instead if theres anything about the UM PRO 50 that you do not like? I was also facing a similar dilemma about a month ago so I might be able to tell you a thing or two.

 

Big part of the difference can be heard in the bass frequencies between the two models!


Edited by mkps2 - 4/10/14 at 5:52am
post #412 of 657
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Hi,instead of asking how similar/different they sound .. I'd like to ask you instead if theres anything about the UM PRO 50 that you do not like? I was also facing a similar dilemma about a month ago so I might be able to tell you a thing or two.

 

Big part of the difference can be heard in the bass frequencies between the two models!

Nothing that I didn't like honestly, mids and bass coexist pretty well, the highs aren't ear piercing(used comply tips).

 

I would say that the mids and bass are kind of "on the same level".

 

*I do prefer IEMs with that mids aren't recessed.


Edited by MachBot - 4/10/14 at 6:35am
post #413 of 657
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Nothing that I didn't like honestly, mids and bass coexist pretty well, the highs aren't ear piercing(used comply tips).

 

I would say that the mids and bass are kind of "on the same level".

 

*I do prefer IEMs with that mids aren't recessed.

 

In my opinion, the ES5/50s have more refined bass- definitely more controlled and not as boomy/muddy compared to the UM Pro50. It might be the tuning or something I can't figure out.. but from specs alone, the ES5 goes 12Hz lower.

 

To sum it up, there's actually less bass in ES5- but don't get me wrong, its still a plenty and more controlled in my opinion.


Edited by mkps2 - 4/10/14 at 6:53am
post #414 of 657
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In my opinion, the ES5/50s have more refined bass- definitely more controlled and not as boomy/muddy compared to the UM Pro50. It might be the tuning or something I can't figure out.. but from specs alone, the ES5 goes 12Hz lower.

 

To sum it up, there's actually less bass in ES5- but don't get me wrong, its still a plenty and more controlled in my opinion.

 

Try using a different tip on the UM Pro 50 (i.e. non Star Tips)

post #415 of 657
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Try using a different tip on the UM Pro 50 (i.e. non Star Tips)

 

hmm i haven't actually considered it could be the tips...
you have the es5 too right think I saw your posts in the ES5 thread?

 

did swapping out the star tips get you a more refined bass - and ultimately making the ES5 and UMPro50 sound alike though? I don't personally own the UM Pro 50 to try this unfortunately to test this right away.

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I think you try to make an apple into an orange and use it to compare to other orange. I use silicon tips with Pro 50 instead Comply tips that helped to refind and sound. Pro 50 can do treble if music calls for it. Like I was asking earlier if anyone listen to flute with Pro 50.

post #417 of 657
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It's impossible to demo a custom westone iem in Singapore..

How close does it sound as compared to the um pro 50?(if you have demoed one)


sorry i have not had the time to demo the pro 50... too busy with meetings and what not 😅

adding to the discussion, you can always eq the bass if you prefer stronger bass, but no amount of eq can give you more control and clarity.

this was why i love the w4r as compared to the other iem of that price range, w4r has overall more control and clarity across all frequency, the complain about it being flat and boring was easily countered with my cowon player's BBE eqing, and other effects. the fact that the signal is relatively flat makes it even easier to do so. The result is an iem with good frequency separation and  a wave signature that I can control.

post #418 of 657

I have been a very happy Westone 3 user for some time now, what would be the next natural prpogression for me. Is the sound signature of UM series simialr to the older line?

 

Scott

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I have been a very happy Westone 3 user for some time now, what would be the next natural prpogression for me. Is the sound signature of UM series simialr to the older line?

 

Scott

 

It is EXTREMELY similar, I couldn't tell the difference.

Might want to wait out for the W60, looks promising!

post #420 of 657
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It is EXTREMELY similar, I couldn't tell the difference.

Might want to wait out for the W60, looks promising!

 

Oh my...those do seem very cool. I may just wait to see how those are. Thanks!

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