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Just try out twisters eq for a minute. If you are playing music while you do it it will seem like a slight veil over the treble (voices especially), that you didn't even know was there, is slowly lifting. Like twister reports, the slight eq takes it to a whole new level, like you got a $500 upgrade in iems. I might be exaggerating a smidge as I am so happy with it, but I bet I am not that much!

 

Hmmm...I tried it out, and it didn't quite blow my mind like I expected it. Maybe I have funny ears. I even tried listening to some EDM stuff since that's what twister is into. I'll try out the EQ for a little bit longer.

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Just try out twisters eq for a minute. If you are playing music while you do it it will seem like a slight veil over the treble (voices especially), that you didn't even know was there, is slowly lifting. Like twister reports, the slight eq takes it to a whole new level, like you got a $500 upgrade in iems. I might be exaggerating a smidge as I am so happy with it, but I bet I am not that much!

 

Hmmm...I tried it out, and it didn't quite blow my mind like I expected it. Maybe I have funny ears. I even tried listening to some EDM stuff since that's what twister is into. I'll try out the EQ for a little bit longer.

 

We all hear things differently, use different source to drive our headphones, and some use different cables ;)  The EQ setting I suggested was based on my listening experience using Cayin N6 DAP and Whiplash Pure Silver cables with UM Pro 50 (with largest orange marked silicone star tips) for a few hundred hours were sound improvement was night'n'day for me :D  I wasn't happy with a sound and that EQ setting made sense to my ears based on what I found missing in original tuning.  If you are happy with your setup and current sound, you don't have to change anything.

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 Maybe I have funny ears.

 

I've come to the conclusion that every one of us has funny ears, in some way or another. ;)

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I must say I was very sceptical of a cable's ability to change the sound. Just today I received a silver plated occ cable from Taiwan that I bought off eBay for pretty cheap ($35). Wow, I am now a believer. Immediate and noticeable difference in sound. Highs and lows are more extended and textured and the soundstage is much larger using pro50s. Makes me wonder if the good ones twister reviews are even better....
Edited by bavinck - 4/14/15 at 7:00pm
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I have been using the black star tips on the UM pro 50 for some time. To my ears they are somewhat dark sounding and need quite a bit of EQ to add some air and sparkle. They are a good fit for my ears though.

 

Yesterday I discovered that they are almost the same size and shape as the medium Shure black olives and tried those. What a difference!

The top end opens up, voices become more lifelike, bass tightens up a bit and isolation is better. Now they need much less EQ, if at all.

 

These differences will vary according to ear canal shape, but if you've some black olives lying around, you owe it to yourselves to try them out.

 

I never found them to be comfy on the se 535 but on the UM pro 50 they fit me quite well.

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I have been using the black star tips on the UM pro 50 for some time. To my ears they are somewhat dark sounding and need quite a bit of EQ to add some air and sparkle. They are a good fit for my ears though.

 

Yesterday I discovered that they are almost the same size and shape as the medium Shure black olives and tried those. What a difference!

The top end opens up, voices become more lifelike, bass tightens up a bit and isolation is better. Now they need much less EQ, if at all.

 

These differences will vary according to ear canal shape, but if you've some black olives lying around, you owe it to yourselves to try them out.

 

I never found them to be comfy on the se 535 but on the UM pro 50 they fit me quite well.

Interesting observation. I don't have any Shure olives around to test with, but I have an unopened pack of comply tips I haven't tried yet. I will give them a go tonight and report back if it sounds different than the star tips. I do agree that the star tip with the pro50 need some treble eq to sound less closed in.

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Interesting observation. I don't have any Shure olives around to test with, but I have an unopened pack of comply tips I haven't tried yet. I will give them a go tonight and report back if it sounds different than the star tips. I do agree that the star tip with the pro50 need some treble eq to sound less closed in.

 

Audeo Pfe tips work well too.  That's what I have been using on the 30's & the 50's.

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so it was you who snagged it :P I went to buy the open box Fiio e17 for 60 dollars and asked to see the westones but was told it was on hold for someone. Was too late by a few hours haha

Hi RedJohn456, I'm hanging on to my Westone UMPro30's but I'm planning on selling my Westone W30's (which I bought from The Headfone Shop a couple of weeks after the Pro30's).  I did a fair amount of comparative listening and really liked both IEM's but I tended to listen to the Pro30's more frequently so I thought that there is no point in keeping both and letting the W30's just sit idle.  Assuming that Charles at the Headfone Shop will re-sell the W30's for me, if interested you should be able audition them soon.  Keep an eye on their website.  Cheers.

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Guys, is it possible for balanced armature iems to "burn in" . My pro50s seems to be ever so slightly brighter since first getting them. Maybe I am just getting used to them?
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Guys, is it possible for balanced armature iems to "burn in" . My pro50s seems to be ever so slightly brighter since first getting them. Maybe I am just getting used to them?

 

Probably cable burn in and some "brain" burning adjusting to the sound.  From a driver perspective, mostly dynamic ones benefit from extended burn in.  But nevertheless, I put all of my IEMs and full size through 50hrs of burn in.

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Awhile back we had a discussion about in-ear impressions and custom molds for UM56.  I remember a number of people chimed in with prices they paid for their impressions, some of which was over the top.  I just had my impressions done with a local audiologist in North Jersey, and he only charged me $25 for a set (L/R) of 3 pairs of impressions, and it look literally 15-20 minutes to get everything done.  I didn't need a hearing test appointment or was buying/ordering anything, just made an appointment for in-ear impression.  So just keep that as a reference whenever you go to your audiologist or whatever place is making impressions for you.

 

Once I get UM56, I will post a mini review with my sound impressions.

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Awhile back we had a discussion about in-ear impressions and custom molds for UM56.  I remember a number of people chimed in with prices they paid for their impressions, some of which was over the top.  I just had my impressions done with a local audiologist in North Jersey, and he only charged me $25 for a set (L/R) of 3 pairs of impressions, and it look literally 15-20 minutes to get everything done.  I didn't need a hearing test appointment or was buying/ordering anything, just made an appointment for in-ear impression.  So just keep that as a reference whenever you go to your audiologist or whatever place is making impressions for you.

Once I get UM56, I will post a mini review with my sound impressions.

See, I purchased mine for $200 for the silicone versions. That included not only both my ear tips but also the impressions. If you look on their site, the tips are expensive by themselves. Once tax is added, it makes sense for that price.
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So I have a few issues with the umpro 30 and seeing off anyone else has ran into them. (Sorry if previously discussed too lazy to read 89 pages) first issue is the earbuds constantly fall off. If I switch to different tips they last well for a month and then get continually lodged in my ear. I loved the um's when I got them. now the left earpiece goes out sometimes (I've tested on multiple devices it is the iem) and when it is playing it's not 100% in the left earpiece the bass doesn't impact as much, the mods sound a little thin and the treble loses a lot of detail as well as being a little quieter than the right. I also have a pair of what I believe to be the klipsh s3i's that I use for Skype because they have a mic. And sad to say there is little difference in quality of my um's over them. as far as the left being "different" than the right while it is playing I know it is not my ears because the s3i sounds the same on both sides. And I have only had the um's for 3 months at most. As far as abuse they are always in their case, though I have fallen asleep with them more than a few times.
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Side note, I purchased them at my local hifi shop who I have had great experiences with and the first pair of the pro 30's I opened immediately had one side that refused to play. I returned them and they swapped me this pair.
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