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post #1216 of 2059
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Originally Posted by ozziecook View Post


Good to know. But it was the W30 not the W3 I had. I made an error on that last post. Still laughs at w30? :-)


I think so - more than a hearty guffaw.... but the W30 is better than the W3, although I liked the W3 more than most - I called it my "ALB" - Angry Little Bastard... It was brilliant with certain types of Rock And Roll.

post #1217 of 2059
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post
 

I spent a good 4 hours with Pro50 today straight out of my Ipod Classic "treble boost" EQ setting.

 

Amazing.  That's all I can say.  Every track, every download, every type of music, played loud, played soft......it sounds amazing.  If the treble detail was not there I would have gotten rid of it by now.....but it's there.  Just warm.

 

Throw in the best cable in the world (ergonomics-wise) and it's hard to part with this thing.  It's like your very favorite most comfy pair of blue jeans/Levis.

Great idea I'll have to try that!  I too have the iPod Classic but I use the line out into a FiiO E12a.  Earphones are the Pro30's.

post #1218 of 2059

As promised, I finished my detailed review of Whiplash Audio TWag v3 Litz cable and also their Modular Cable System.  The review includes a lot of testing and comparison using UM Pro 50 and W40 IEMs.  Check it out here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/757815/review-of-whiplash-audio-twag-v3-litz-and-modular-cable-system-a-true-forward-thinking-in-custom-cable-design-with-a-lot-of-close-up-pics

post #1219 of 2059
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Originally Posted by twister6 View Post
 

As promised, I finished my detailed review of Whiplash Audio TWag v3 Litz cable and also their Modular Cable System.  The review includes a lot of testing and comparison using UM Pro 50 and W40 IEMs.  Check it out here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/757815/review-of-whiplash-audio-twag-v3-litz-and-modular-cable-system-a-true-forward-thinking-in-custom-cable-design-with-a-lot-of-close-up-pics

Thanks man! Definitely looking forward to it. While, I already have Ted's Litz Silver wire, I defiantly would have picked this one up if I had not bought from him first.

post #1220 of 2059
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Originally Posted by Gurashieruro View Post
 
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Originally Posted by twister6 View Post
 

As promised, I finished my detailed review of Whiplash Audio TWag v3 Litz cable and also their Modular Cable System.  The review includes a lot of testing and comparison using UM Pro 50 and W40 IEMs.  Check it out here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/757815/review-of-whiplash-audio-twag-v3-litz-and-modular-cable-system-a-true-forward-thinking-in-custom-cable-design-with-a-lot-of-close-up-pics

Thanks man! Definitely looking forward to it. While, I already have Ted's Litz Silver wire, I defiantly would have picked this one up if I had not bought from him first.

 

You are welcome!  While I think Litz Pure Silver wire cables from different manufacturers might yield a similar sound improvement, that Whiplash Modular cable system is INSANE!!!  I didn't expect that pieces of cable with multiple connectors will sound the same as a solid Litz cable.  Had a lot of email exchanges with Craig from Whiplash Audio, the guy is obsessed with details and quality.


Edited by twister6 - 3/7/15 at 10:05pm
post #1221 of 2059
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Originally Posted by twister6 View Post
 

 

You are welcome!  While I think Litz Pure Silver wire cables from different manufacturers might yield a similar sound improvement, that Whiplash Modular cable system is INSANE!!!  I didn't expect that pieces of cable with multiple connectors will sound the same as a solid Litz cable.  Had a lot of email exchanges with Craig from Whiplash Audio, the guy is obsessed with details and quality.

Good to know. I always enjoy people who have the same sense of perfection and quality as me, especially who sell and make the merchandise. I thought Ted's was crazy, which it is for both the price and quality, but I am a bit curious on the Whiplash. Really, you can't beat the price of a 100% custom handmade audio cable that Ted charges. I asked for custom carbon fiber equips for the Y-split and 3.5mm jack and he did it with perfection.
Whiplash, based by what I have seen and heard from your review and many others, should not let down either. In fact, it sounds VERY promising. If anyone says copper and silver doesn't make a difference in sound, I would beg to differ. Anyways, just another beautiful and great review by twister6 so what can I expect? :P

post #1222 of 2059

Twister - what was MSRP for the Whiplash TWag V3 modular cable system? I didn't see it in the review - although I may have blithered and it was staring me in the face....

post #1223 of 2059
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Originally Posted by Ivabign View Post

Twister - what was MSRP for the Whiplash TWag V3 modular cable system? I didn't see it in the review - although I may have blithered and it was staring me in the face....

You are right, price is not listed. I mentioned this to Craig already and he is working on it. There are way too many options with different interchangeable pieces, so the list is going to be huge. But the price should be close to a similarly configured regular custom cable. So for example, Pure Silver Litz wires with rhodium 3.5mm Oyaide connector and mmcx connectors should be close to $400, similar to TWag v3 Litz. Then, every modular replacement piece will be a fraction of that.
post #1224 of 2059
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Originally Posted by imeem View Post

for the same price, which one is a better buy: UM pro 30 or W30? I'm having an itch to buy something big :P

I purchased a used pair of UMPro30's because the price was too good to pass up. I compared them to a new pair of W20's and really liked (almost preferred) their sound signature over the Pro30's. Later today I'm going to audition a pair of used W30's, which should make for a better comparison with the Pro30's.
post #1225 of 2059
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Originally Posted by Tuneslover View Post


I purchased a used pair of UMPro30's because the price was too good to pass up. I compared them to a new pair of W20's and really liked (almost preferred) their sound signature over the Pro30's. Later today I'm going to audition a pair of used W30's, which should make for a better comparison with the Pro30's.

 

How much "burn in" time did you give the UmPro30s?  It took time for me to adjust to the UmPro30 sound sig.  I felt over time (I mean weeks) the IEMs started to come alive.  I have never tried the W series so can't comment on it's burn in time but the UM series IMHO takes time.

 

This hobby is a matter of preference so it boils down to what you like but I just wanted to mention that burn in time is required.

post #1226 of 2059
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Originally Posted by Smurfs2010 View Post

How much "burn in" time did you give the UmPro30s?  It took time for me to adjust to the UmPro30 sound sig.  I felt over time (I mean weeks) the IEMs started to come alive.  I have never tried the W series so can't comment on it's burn in time but the UM series IMHO takes time.

This hobby is a matter of preference so it boils down to what you like but I just wanted to mention that burn in time is required.

I completely agree with the merits of burn in. My UmPro30's are used (4months) so I don't know how many hours the previous owner put on them. I've owned them for only 2 weeks but probably have about 30 hrs or so on them. They seem to be getting better sounding as time goes on, or I'm just getting used to their sound signature. These are only the 2nd pair of iem's that I've ever owned, the first seriously good ones, so I'm trying to get used to the IEM thing as I'm a full size can listener. I recently upgraded from the FiiO E11K to the E12a which is supposed to be an excellent IEM portable amp, hence my foray into iem's.
Edited by Tuneslover - 3/16/15 at 3:05pm
post #1227 of 2059

I picked up another Westone IEM today...a used pair of W30's.  Clearly a more "typical" tuned earphone than my UMPro30's.  Love them both.

post #1228 of 2059
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

Well,  Pro50 will sort of follow the same Westone  theme of W30 but gives you more refinement in every category  I just don't want to steer you wrong.

Westone trademark sound traits are.....
  • smooth, warm sound. ( but still great details)
  • VERY efficient.  Amp  usually never needed.
  • Nice heavy bass weight and sound with ZERO distortion at any volume!
  • Exceptional ergonomics/fit.
  • Best cables in industry, extremely low microphonics
  • Gotta love the 2 year warranty.  Supreme customer service.

Had 3 pairs of westone IEMs during last ~12 years and I can vouch for everything you wrote. The ergonomics/fit are just unbelievable. I travel a lot and prolly tried more than 20 diff iems already ... nothing comes even close to the westone comfort.
And the service ... calling it supreme is no exageration. Never had anything similar from any other company or product.

Plus, they do sound good smily_headphones1.gif
post #1229 of 2059

When I got the deal for my UM Pro 50s those months back, it was the best I have spent in a long time. I really love these things. Everything feel SO real. Listening to my girlfriend's dubs of Vocaloid songs, I feel like its so real. The sound is unbelievable that I can't describe or praise them enough.

Though its kind of funny that on my Note 4 that I now hear noise in the tracks that I listen to. I know for a fact that its not the device itself because I don't hear anything when I am not playing anything. So that's not a complaint but more so, something that I found quite interesting.

post #1230 of 2059
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Originally Posted by Gurashieruro View Post
 

When I got the deal for my UM Pro 50s those months back, it was the best I have spent in a long time. I really love these things. Everything feel SO real. Listening to my girlfriend's dubs of Vocaloid songs, I feel like its so real. The sound is unbelievable that I can't describe or praise them enough.

Though its kind of funny that on my Note 4 that I now hear noise in the tracks that I listen to. I know for a fact that its not the device itself because I don't hear anything when I am not playing anything. So that's not a complaint but more so, something that I found quite interesting.


Sometimes this hobby can skew your perspective :D - I am using my Pro50's with my iPhone pretty exclusively when I am out and about, as I have a Shure mic cable that fits it - and it sounds bloody awesome - but I am using a $749 MSRP headphone like iBuds - but I wouldn't have it any other way. 

 

I just don't think I could hope to explain it to just anyone on the street. I see so many Apple buds, and the occasional Beats - but rarely do I see anyone with anything that would cost over $75. Just weird.

 

On another note - a member tried the 50's and thought they were veiled - now I know this headphone just has a different signature - all the details are there - cymbals sound present - high frequencies are well represented. Suffice to say I "know" these headphones. What I wonder is - sometimes when you go from a dark headphone to a bright headphone, the dark one can sound immediately muddy - but what is interesting is that no matter what I listen to at the computer - if I go out, the 50's don't sound muddy - they still sound clear as a bell - so they must have somehow imprinted themselves in my brain (brain burn) - I don't experience the "light to dark" muddy sound with these. These are just brilliant headphones.

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