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post #76 of 86
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Originally Posted by Staggerleed View Post

What happens when we all go wireless one day soon?

 

I don't see headphones going wireless to any great degree any time soon. At least not outside the mass market.

 

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post #77 of 86
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Originally Posted by Lenni View Post

 

there's nothing fancy looking about my cables. they're just thin strings of wire that I can hardly see. though, the difference they make sounds quite real to me.

Non-fancy audiophile cables, what audiophile cable company does that? ("fancy" is subjective so we may agree to disagree)

But anyway, it all boils down to bias and uncontrolled comparisons. If it is the looks, the price, the reviews ... doesn't matter.

 

As a cable sponsor on head-fi once wrote:

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I am a firm believer, no one will ever change that opinion. God has already provided me with the best scientific equipment on this planet, my very own ears.

There's so much wrong with this that I wouldn't even know where to start. The closed-mindedness is probably the worst closely followed by the implication of infallibility of his hearing.

 

 

And I noticed that you had also a Richard Feynman quote in your sig:

“Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.”

 

Since this is out of context, and it seems you're just trying to denigrate science, I am not sure you understand what Feynman is saying there. In his own words this means:
"Learn from science that you must doubt the experts."

 

In other words you shouldn't accept statements like "science has shown X" even if experts tell you (which is comparable to what happens in religions). Instead you should ask how the scientists found out X, what experiments did they do, what are the results, etc. Only from that we can draw scientific conclusions, not from hearsay ("the difference sounds real to me", "n other people who heard a difference can't be wrong" ...)

 

As such I find it incredibly ironic to see a Feynman quote in your sig.


Edited by xnor - 8/19/13 at 9:16am
post #78 of 86
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Originally Posted by xnor View Post

Non-fancy audiophile cables, what audiophile cable company does that? ("fancy" is subjective so we may agree to disagree)

How about  http://www.bluejeanscable.com/  ? 

 

I'm more of a monoprice customer myself, but if I had to go "fancy" bluejeans is probably where I'd go.  Still, they don't do headphones so the point may be moot for this forum. 

post #79 of 86

When I first got into headphones a number of years ago, I picked up a Moon Audio Silver Dragon cable for my HD600s based on recommendations on this forum. I really thought I heard a difference - more detail, especially, just like all of the reviews of the cable said I should hear.

 

One of the channels ended up failing on the cable, and I sent it back in for repair. During that time I went back to using the stock cable, and realized that all of the detail was there to begin with - I had just been tricking myself into hearing more detail with this particular cable because I thought that I ought to be hearing more detail.

 

I've stayed with the stock cable ever since.

post #80 of 86

Did you sell your placebo to someone else on the forum?

post #81 of 86

Quote from above:

 

"I am a firm believer, no one will ever change that opinion. God has already provided me with the best scientific equipment on this planet, my very own ears."

 

I just realized cables are the head-fi equivalent of creation vs evolution.

post #82 of 86
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Originally Posted by bigshot View Post

Did you sell your placebo to someone else on the forum?

 

Haha! No. I honestly hadn't thought of selling them. I just took it as an expensive "now I've learned my lesson" type of thing and left it at that.

 

I should be more enterprising.

post #83 of 86
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Originally Posted by BlindInOneEar View Post

How about  http://www.bluejeanscable.com/  ? 

 

I'm more of a monoprice customer myself, but if I had to go "fancy" bluejeans is probably where I'd go.  Still, they don't do headphones so the point may be moot for this forum. 

If blue jeans is considered an audiophile cable manufacturer then in my book they are certainly among the most credible audiophile manufacturers.

Take a look at their about us page and interviews with Kurt Denke, he's saying stuff like:

 - In a lot of cases a cheap (few bucks) and expensive cable may have been made in the same factory and may have cost the same to make.

 - If your digital cable shows no sign of not working (like drop outs) then it doesn't matter if it cost 2 bucks or a few hundred.

 - Their own more expensive hdmi cables only make sense for high distances where cheaper ones don't work.

 - Their philosophy: "Sell a high quality product and tell the truth about it, which was something we didn't always feel was being done in the audio/video market."

 

Additionally, their cables don't seem ridiculously overpriced as many audiophile cables are.

 

I cannot speak for the quality of their products, never bought from them.

 

 

@Jiffy Squid: *thumbs up*, not to the enterprising part though. tongue.gif


Edited by xnor - 8/19/13 at 6:18pm
post #84 of 86
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Originally Posted by xnor View Post

If blue jeans is considered an audiophile cable manufacturer then in my book they are certainly among the most credible audiophile manufacturers.

 

I agree.  Their web site is refreshing in its lack of "audiophile" double speak.  Instead they offer what appear to be "sensible shoes" type products at seemingly fair prices.  I've never bought from them either, but at least you can see where your money is going if you did.

post #85 of 86
Aye. I do like Blue Jeans Cables, for they are pretty honest about things, and their build quality is quite good. I also recommend checking out other manufacturers that cater to the recording industry- much less BS to wade through, and more science, (comparatively speaking).

One of my other favorite Cable makers is also Pro Audio LA. They use good materials like from Neutrik, Mogami, and Gotham, and are well put together. (I'm not affiliated with them, don't worry!) They remind me of Blue Jeans Cables in many ways.

I guess my philosophy is that if it's good enough for the people who recorded my music, it must be good enough for me, right? I mean, most studios use Neutrik / Switchcraft / Amphenol XLR terminations, not the uber crazy multi hundred buck rhodium ones.
post #86 of 86
I once asked the head engineer of a studio I was working in what cables he used. He reached into a closet and pulled out an enormous spindle and said, "Monoprice".
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