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post #751 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Johnsonr520 View Post

Regarding the individual wires after desleeving, which are more flexible, canare l-e46s or mogami w-2534? I'm wondering if it's worth double the price. And these will be used sleeved through 550 cord

I have both at home. When I get home in a few hours I'll compare to refresh my memory and I'll post again.
post #752 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Johnsonr520 View Post

Regarding the individual wires after desleeving, which are more flexible, canare l-e46s or mogami w-2534? I'm wondering if it's worth double the price. And these will be used sleeved through 550 cord
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Originally Posted by Kamakahah View Post


I have both at home. When I get home in a few hours I'll compare to refresh my memory and I'll post again.

 

Ok so I stripped a length of both. By "Canare l-e46s" I'm assuming you mean the l-4e6s. 

 

You'll notice right off the bat that the mogami is thicker because the inner conductor wires are 24 awg instead while the canare seems to be a smaller 26 awg thought I cannot confirm it from the spec sheet. 

 

Anyway, Both sets of conductors supposedly use the cross-linked PE insulation so that should be the same. However, when touching and bending them, it is clear that the mogami is softer and more pliable than the canare. Just as a secondary source I asked my wife to touch and bend both sets of conductors. Afterwards I took them away and asked which was more flexible; She said the Mogami. I let her feel again and she confirmed her initial answer. 

 

I won't try and speculate why this is the case, but it's what I found.

 

The reason the Mogami cost more is likely due to it being a thicker cable (more material) and also the copper shielding instead of the the aluminium? shielding in the canare S version. 

 

Now, that is simply a comparison between the two. In general, I find both to be fairly stiff and memory prone. 

 

I've always been really impressed with some of the offerings from PlusSound. Specifically the regular 7N silver-plated copper that runs $1.50/ft very much surprised me with its flexibility and overall softness of the insulation. I picked up enough for a CIEM cable after feeling it. It uses PE as well, but for some reason feels quite a bit softer and much less memory prone and stiff. 

 

They also have a copper version that boasts 75 strands. I really liked the flexibility it offered. 

 

But both of those are quite a bit more expensive.

 

Personally I like to use the Canare L-4E5C mini version for most things. I think it fits well within the sleeving and the conductors appear to be 28 awg. They are thinner, and in turn more flexible than the larger version. It's $0.48/ft from Redco you don't lose much trying it.

Alternatively, I really like using the Mogami counterpart which is the W2893. It's $0.83/ft, quite a step up but still very reasonable. Like it's bigger brother, I find it a little bit more flexible and soft compared to the Canare counterpart. However, when the two are sleeved, you won't notice much of a difference if any. 

 

I recommend that whatever you order to add on a few feet of the others to see for yourself. That's the reason I have these on hand. I prefer the mini cables, but those that you asked about are also very useful depending on your preference. 

post #753 of 1817
Thank you! I guess ill order a decent amount of both of the mini ones and see which works best for me
post #754 of 1817
Definitely order a foot or two of the larger ones in the same order. You might find that you disagree and want those for future orders. If that is possible from the vendor you choose, otherwise think about it for another order.
post #755 of 1817

So I want to make a braided cable for the K702 (65th anniversary). Obtaining the plugs locally will not be a problem, but I can't find the right wiring. 

I'm either looking at some nice OFC wiring or silver wiring, but I need the store to be Europe based! Does anyone know a good european ebay seller, or store where they sell such wiring?

post #756 of 1817

I feel like i'm not likely to get the answer I want here but I have to ask anyway. Does anyone produce 26awg quad conductor silicone jacketed cable?

post #757 of 1817
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Originally Posted by nihilill View Post
 

I feel like i'm not likely to get the answer I want here but I have to ask anyway. Does anyone produce 26awg quad conductor silicone jacketed cable?

 

http://www.redco.com/Mogami-W2893.html $0.82 a foot. Why would you not find the answer here? Haha

post #758 of 1817
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Originally Posted by cCasper TFG View Post

http://www.redco.com/Mogami-W2893.html $0.82 a foot. Why would you not find the answer here? Haha

literally just bought this the other day
post #759 of 1817
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Originally Posted by cCasper TFG View Post
 

 

http://www.redco.com/Mogami-W2893.html $0.82 a foot. Why would you not find the answer here? Haha

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Jacket Material Flexible PVC(from mogami website)

I'm looking for silicone jacket, or am I missing something? Why would I not find the answer here? Because this type of cable seems to be somewhat specialized to industrial hi temp applications. 

post #760 of 1817

Oh dang I guess that insulation probably isn't silicone. Here's the best I can do, it's 22awg. I couldn't find 26 on the site. It's rated up to 200 Celcius, and it's only $0.30 a foot. http://www.buddyrc.com/black-22awg-silicone-wire.html


Edited by cCasper TFG - 11/2/13 at 11:56pm
post #761 of 1817
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Originally Posted by cCasper TFG View Post
 

Oh dang I guess that insulation probably isn't silicone. Here's the best I can do, it's 22awg. I couldn't find 26 on the site. It's rated up to 200 Celcius, and it's only $0.30 a foot. http://www.buddyrc.com/black-22awg-silicone-wire.html


I see, thanks anyway. While i'm here I share where I buy single conductor silicone wire: www.aliexpress.com it's very cheap.

post #762 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Johnsonr520 View Post


I would buy an assortment. It's a lot cheaper that way, and once you get into this hobby, god knows you'll need them

Good advise, it goes way faster than you might think. Tons of different boutique parts carriers offer heatshrink too, so you can easily add it to your order. Kimber, Partsconnexion, Percy Audio, Soniccraft, etc. I generally get most of mine from Wirecare.com as the prices are quite competitive. 

 

Also, in a pinch, Home Depot caries some assorted packs. 

post #763 of 1817
Can someone explain to me why people use 4 wires in applications like 3.5mm to 3.5mm cables? Since there's the right, left, and ground, where does that 4th wire come into play and how does it help?
post #764 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Darknet View Post

Can someone explain to me why people use 4 wires in applications like 3.5mm to 3.5mm cables? Since there's the right, left, and ground, where does that 4th wire come into play and how does it help?

I am also very curious about this
post #765 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Darknet View Post

Can someone explain to me why people use 4 wires in applications like 3.5mm to 3.5mm cables? Since there's the right, left, and ground, where does that 4th wire come into play and how does it help?

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Originally Posted by kskwerl View Post

I am also very curious about this

It does nothing sonically. It is a preference based on style. Some people like how a 4-strand round braid looks compared to three.
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