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post #601 of 2872
I'm going to agree with troll on the extra ground. It doesn't matter. I've done 8-strand braids and despite the clear logic that it should have shat double rainbows of musical fairy dust bliss into my ears, it was the same.

Now, if you're getting that much change in SQ I suggest you look into other variations in the build. Maybe one had a less than perfect joint or it could simply be expectation bias.
post #602 of 2872

Quick question, does any one know good suppliers of pre-insulated solid silver wire?

 

I found homegrownaudio.com, they sell 22AWG pure solid silver wire in FEP (teflon) for $8/foot.

Doesnt seem too bad to me, but I have no idea what this should cost and I've never purchased from them before.

Also, the RCA plugs they carry are too expensive for my use... Probably gonna grab some gold plated silver Neutriks from Redco for that.

 

I'm just looking to make some short RCA interconnects for the Schiit Modi/Magni stack I plan on getting.

post #603 of 2872
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Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post
 

 

To build a data cable with it.  I've got two Neutrik 5-pin DIN plugs to go with it.  markertek sells assembled versions, but where's the fun in that?  :tongue_smile: 

markertek doesn't sell bulk D403, though, not even in gigantic reels.

 

Good point, just didn't know why you wanted that specific MIDI cable over, for example, this one.

 
Best bet might be to call Canare, honestly.
 
post #604 of 2872
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Originally Posted by PanpandaChan View Post
 

Quick question, does any one know good suppliers of pre-insulated solid silver wire?

 

I found homegrownaudio.com, they sell 22AWG pure solid silver wire in FEP (teflon) for $8/foot.

Doesnt seem too bad to me, but I have no idea what this should cost and I've never purchased from them before.

Also, the RCA plugs they carry are too expensive for my use... Probably gonna grab some gold plated silver Neutriks from Redco for that.

 

I'm just looking to make some short RCA interconnects for the Schiit Modi/Magni stack I plan on getting.

 

Qables?

 
Probably more expensive when you consider the shipping costs, but it's another option.
post #605 of 2872

That is actually MUCH cheaper for me... especially since they sell their wire by the meter.

 

Excluding VAT its $5.88 per METER of insulated 24AWG solid core silver.

Compared to the other site which is $7.50 per FOOT. That is awesome.

 

And this site has the neutrik plugs too.

 

So this costs me around $18 for the wire + plugs + shipping. (With an extra foot of wire compared to other site)

Compared to $25 the other way.

 

Ooh now I can affordably make a triple braid silver cable...

Its better to have two on the + conductor and one wire on ground rather than other way around right?

post #606 of 2872

OK guys maybe I am asking a silly question, but I am just curious.

 

Let's say I use an external amp for ipod. Can I recable my earphone with two plugs - one goes to the amp's headphone jack and the other goes to ipod's headphone jack, both at the same time?

post #607 of 2872
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Originally Posted by DMinor View Post
 

OK guys maybe I am asking a silly question, but I am just curious.

 

Let's say I use an external amp for ipod. Can I recable my earphone with two plugs - one goes to the amp's headphone jack and the other goes to ipod's headphone jack, both at the same time?

 

I mean I guess.  But why? you could potentially do one cup per source as in one cup into the ipod and the other into the amp...but again why?  I am trying to figure out how this would work in my head and I don't know how you would get music to the amp and through the headphone jack at the same time on your ipod.  I am not sure but doesn't plugging in an LOD mute the headphone jack?

post #608 of 2872
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Originally Posted by Zashoomin View Post
 

 

I mean I guess.  But why? you could potentially do one cup per source as in one cup into the ipod and the other into the amp...but again why?  I am trying to figure out how this would work in my head and I don't know how you would get music to the amp and through the headphone jack at the same time on your ipod.  I am not sure but doesn't plugging in an LOD mute the headphone jack?

 

As I said I am just curious. Call it DIY curiosity. :wink_face:

 

Not on my diymod ipod. The ipod's headphone jack still sends out music even when LOD cable is plugged in.

 

Edit: I just checked the stock ipod as well. Both headphone jack and LOD send out music at the same time.


Edited by DMinor - 9/20/13 at 1:42pm
post #609 of 2872
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Originally Posted by DMinor View Post
 

 

As I said I am just curious. Call it DIY curiosity. :wink_face:

 

Not on my diymod ipod. The ipod's headphone jack still sends out music even when LOD cable is plugged in.

 

Edit: I just checked the stock ipod as well. Both headphone jack and LOD send out music at the same time.

 

Hmm than I guess its possible.  Do it and tell me what happened...lol

post #610 of 2872

I have a question about RCA interconnects. Would there be an objection if i used 2x 24awg solid core silver wire and twisted them together, so long as it's 1m or less? Or would shielding/larger gauge wire be recommended? Thanks in advance.

post #611 of 2872
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post
 

I have a question about RCA interconnects. Would there be an objection if i used 2x 24awg solid core silver wire and twisted them together, so long as it's 1m or less? Or would shielding/larger gauge wire be recommended? Thanks in advance.

 

I am a bit confused by what you are saying here.  RCA need a total of 4 wires: 2 ground (one for each side) and 2 signal (L, R).  Also I am not saying that you can't use solid core but I wouldn't recommend it.  It is prone to breaking if you move it too much and is very stiff.  Even with a short interconnect I highly suggest you work with shielded stranded wire.  Also 24awg is plenty large for interconnects you can even use 26 if you are so inclined.  

post #612 of 2872
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Originally Posted by Zashoomin View Post
 

 

Hmm than I guess its possible.  Do it and tell me what happened...lol

 

I think this Y cable splitter will make it easier to experiment. Any possibility harming my iem's?

 

post #613 of 2872
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post
 

I have a question about RCA interconnects. Would there be an objection if i used 2x 24awg solid core silver wire and twisted them together, so long as it's 1m or less? Or would shielding/larger gauge wire be recommended? Thanks in advance.

 

What are the interconnects being used on? An average desktop amp/dac interconnect wouldn't require anymore than the 24 gauge. You can twist them in pairs and use them that way if it makes you feel more comfortable knowing you have a higher potential capacity, it will work just fine that way but isn't necessary. 

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Originally Posted by Zashoomin View Post
 

 

I am a bit confused by what you are saying here.  RCA need a total of 4 wires: 2 ground (one for each side) and 2 signal (L, R).  Also I am not saying that you can't use solid core but I wouldn't recommend it.  It is prone to breaking if you move it too much and is very stiff.  Even with a short interconnect I highly suggest you work with shielded stranded wire.  Also 24awg is plenty large for interconnects you can even use 26 if you are so inclined.  

 

What? Perhaps you're mixing up TRS with RCA? 

RCA interconnects each generally have 2 wires per cable: 1 for signal and one for ground. You make 2 cables: one for the left channel and one for the right channel. 

 

I agree with the stranded wire. Unless you plan on making a short interconnect that won't be moved/removed much, stranded is a much better choice for longevity of the cable. 

post #614 of 2872
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Originally Posted by Kamakahah View Post
 

 

What are the interconnects being used on? An average desktop amp/dac interconnect wouldn't require anymore than the 24 gauge. You can twist them in pairs and use them that way if it makes you feel more comfortable knowing you have a higher potential capacity, it will work just fine that way but isn't necessary. 

 

 

I agree with the stranded wire. Unless you plan on making a short interconnect that won't be moved/removed much, stranded is a much better choice for longevity of the cable. 

The interconnects will be used from a 2vrms DAC to a passive pre, then to an amp. Both sets of cables would be interchanged frequently between different sources and amps. The solid core silver will be sheathed in teflon tubing. I think twisting will also help against breakage, but would applying heatshrink over the twisted pair offer some stress relief? Thanks.

post #615 of 2872
The problem with solid core is it will break at the solder connection or at the strain relief. Doesn't make a difference how much sheathing / shrinktube you use, there is no flexibility to it. Like others have said for a cable that does not move it's fine. On one that moves it will break long before stranded will.
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