DIY Cable Questions and Comments Thread
Apr 27, 2015 at 9:39 AM Post #3,871 of 10,535
Hello I'm planning to make an IEM cable terminated to the AK 2.5mm balanced. I do have full sized cans I'd like to use with it and I thought about making a 1/8" female to 2.5mm male balanced adapter but that's probably not a good idea. Single ended to balanced output can't work right? Does this mean I might have to get new cables if I wanna use my other cans with it?

Also, what AWG spec is used for braided cables? 20-21 AWG? I'd probably make that second if my 1/8" to 2.5mm balanced won't fly with you guys.
 
Thanks please let me know.
 
Apr 27, 2015 at 10:22 AM Post #3,872 of 10,535
Hello, I'm planning to make an IEM cable with individual paracord sleeve. Is paracord with 1mm diameter  available? And, is there any recommendation of cheap paracord seller / website that can ship worldwide? since I'm living in Indonesia.
 
Thank you in advance
 
Apr 27, 2015 at 12:39 PM Post #3,873 of 10,535
  Hello I'm planning to make an IEM cable terminated to the AK 2.5mm balanced. I do have full sized cans I'd like to use with it and I thought about making a 1/8" female to 2.5mm male balanced adapter but that's probably not a good idea. Single ended to balanced output can't work right? Does this mean I might have to get new cables if I wanna use my other cans with it?

Also, what AWG spec is used for braided cables? 20-21 AWG? I'd probably make that second if my 1/8" to 2.5mm balanced won't fly with you guys.
 
Thanks please let me know.

 
If your cable is balanced and you want to make an adapter to use it with a SE amp, you're fine.  If your cable is SE and you want to make andadapter to use it with a balanced amp, you'll damage your equipment.
 
Can't help with your other question, sorry.
 
Apr 27, 2015 at 1:26 PM Post #3,874 of 10,535
Hello I'm planning to make an IEM cable terminated to the AK 2.5mm balanced. I do have full sized cans I'd like to use with it and I thought about making a 1/8" female to 2.5mm male balanced adapter but that's probably not a good idea. Single ended to balanced output can't work right? Does this mean I might have to get new cables if I wanna use my other cans with it?




Thanks please let me know.
What Stillhart said. You'll damage your amp since you'll be combining ground @ the headphones. The best way will be to recable your headphones into a balanced configuration and then make an adapter there to go from balanced to SE. That way, you can use both SE and balanced.

Also, what AWG spec is used for braided cables? 20-21 AWG? I'd probably make that second if my 1/8" to 2.5mm balanced won't fly with you guys.
Depends on how many cables you're planning to braid together. 20-21 AWG is fine for 3 or 4 strands. Anything more and you'll want to step down to a smaller size like 24s or 26s.
 
Apr 27, 2015 at 7:10 PM Post #3,875 of 10,535
   
If your cable is balanced and you want to make an adapter to use it with a SE amp, you're fine.  If your cable is SE and you want to make andadapter to use it with a balanced amp, you'll damage your equipment.
 
Can't help with your other question, sorry.

Dan,
As I  have put the Yiggy on the back burner-,I'm looking at a  Theta DS ProGen III, ,[SE}to have as a backup for my BasicIII.{XLR}
I know nothing about making an adapter  for the GenIII,any suggestions,as to who I should contact to make me one
 
Mike
 
Apr 27, 2015 at 8:34 PM Post #3,876 of 10,535
  Dan,
As I  have put the Yiggy on the back burner-,I'm looking at a  Theta DS ProGen III, ,[SE}to have as a backup for my BasicIII.{XLR}
I know nothing about making an adapter  for the GenIII,any suggestions,as to who I should contact to make me one
 
Mike

 
Hey Mike, what kind of adapter are you talking about?  You want a cable to connect its SE output to your amp?  That's just regular old RCA.  Most amps, even balanced ones, will have SE RCA inputs.
 
Apr 28, 2015 at 12:22 PM Post #3,877 of 10,535
I bogged down after about 25 pages and some searches of the thread, so apologies if this has been covered.

I'm going to be disassembling my Fostex T50rps to put new cups and a baffle on, where another modder's efforts broke the components. I figure if I'm desoldering the drivers (however risky that might be), I might as well convert these cans to a dual-entry format with 4-pin mini XLRs on each cup. Basically the Audeze style.

I've got Canare mini quad cable on the way, and I'm wondering if somebody has good instructions for how to engineer the Y-split in the cable.
 
Apr 28, 2015 at 1:21 PM Post #3,878 of 10,535
I bogged down after about 25 pages and some searches of the thread, so apologies if this has been covered.

I'm going to be disassembling my Fostex T50rps to put new cups and a baffle on, where another modder's efforts broke the components. I figure if I'm desoldering the drivers (however risky that might be), I might as well convert these cans to a dual-entry format with 4-pin mini XLRs on each cup. Basically the Audeze style.

I've got Canare mini quad cable on the way, and I'm wondering if somebody has good instructions for how to engineer the Y-split in the cable.

 
I like to strip the 4 wires out from the Canare cable, sleeve them individually, and then braid them.  If you do it that way, the Y-split requires no real engineering... you just stop braiding the 4 wires and then twist each of the two pairs of wires together.  For bonus points, make sure the two wires going to the left cup are opposite on the braid (I think of them as top, bottom, left, right when braiding so try to keep both wires for a give ear cup on top/bottom or left/right).
 
Apr 28, 2015 at 2:02 PM Post #3,879 of 10,535
I like to strip the 4 wires out from the Canare cable, sleeve them individually, and then braid them.  If you do it that way, the Y-split requires no real engineering... you just stop braiding the 4 wires and then twist each of the two pairs of wires together.  For bonus points, make sure the two wires going to the left cup are opposite on the braid (I think of them as top, bottom, left, right when braiding so try to keep both wires for a give ear cup on top/bottom or left/right).


It's tempting. I've already got the paracord, and I like that look.

The other end of the cable is going to terminate in a 3.5 mm Neutrik plug, though, and I don't know if four sheathed wires will fit in there. (Three of the four possible amp outs I currently own are 3.5, so it doesn't make much sense to terminate in a 6.4 mm plug and use adapters for 3.5, rather than the other way around.)
 
Apr 28, 2015 at 2:09 PM Post #3,880 of 10,535
It's tempting. I've already got the paracord, and I like that look.

The other end of the cable is going to terminate in a 3.5 mm Neutrik plug, though, and I don't know if four sheathed wires will fit in there. (Three of the four possible amp outs I currently own are 3.5, so it doesn't make much sense to terminate in a 6.4 mm plug and use adapters for 3.5, rather than the other way around.)

 
If it'll fit with the giant Canare cable, I don't see why 4 sleeved wires wouldn't fit...?
 
Apr 28, 2015 at 3:13 PM Post #3,881 of 10,535
Should fit, but you may have to drill out the end of the Neutrik plug.
 
The only 4 wire braid I currently have is unsleeved, but there's plenty of room for sleeving if I wanted to do it (and I'm going to on the new cables I'm making for those cans)
 
The plug I am using is a Rean (Neutrik) 3.5mm, but the end is drilled out.  The cable end of the plug is ~6.8mm rather than the stock ~4.5mm
 
Still should be able to squeeze the paracord into the stock plug end, depending on the wire diameter.  The wire I'm using is Mogami 2534, which is 24AWG.  26AWG would be better for paracord sleeving (type 1/#95) and would definitely fit easier.
 
Apr 28, 2015 at 4:12 PM Post #3,882 of 10,535
Alrighty then. Sounds like a winner. At worst, I'll have to ream out the hole a little, it sound like. I guess I thought the paracord sleeves would take up more room than that. (Obviously, the thickness of the wire is negligible in comparison.)

Thanks for the tips.
 
Apr 29, 2015 at 4:16 PM Post #3,885 of 10,535
You could just put some tape around the sleeve and wire, makes it much quicker and easier. 

It's normally much quicker than this, the straw was smashed at the very end, but yes you could do that I suppose. I've just been doing it this way recently.
Is that what you do? Use tape?
 

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