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No ham here unless I touch my other aluminum MacBook.

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I've been teetering back and forth with the idea of buying some vintage Lambda's and many of them come with one of the transformer boxes instead of a dedicated amp, which is OK because I already have an amplifier.

 

My problem comes along because these vintage transformer boxes all have exposed wires to be connected to speaker terminals, which is a royal PITA and not compatible at all with my other gear. Are there any workarounds for this? Terminating those cables into RCA to go through my amp?

 

This is essentially the reason I have not purchased any Stax products yet because new they run too $$$ for what you get (Esp the driver units), but the used ones have issues like this.

 

I've seen one such transformer box on eBay that had the cables wired to a TRS plug, suggesting it could be used with more conventional headphone amps. I would not suggest RCA connections, since those tend to be line-outs without much signal amplification, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to try.

 

I'm not willing to risk potentially ruining something by connecting those SRD boxes to anything other than speaker terminals out of a speaker amp, though, especially if having a common ground for both channels may be a problem. (I just used an old A/V receiver before I got my SRM-T1.)


Edited by NamelessPFG - 9/12/13 at 1:10am
post #408 of 1069

The ratio is far too low to work off normal headphone outputs.  Now if somebody removed the resistive network found on most headphone outputs it would work but then it is exactly the same as the speaker taps on the back. 

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Like to EQ my sig's like this: 

Makes for a quite nice presentation. Slightly lush and more warm with my T1.

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It's interesting with the 207's... I do find the aforementioned slight bump up near 1~3K region to be bothersome for some songs, but on certain days it can even be even more enjoyable due to how forward vocal can sound... but on other days I have a hard time tolerating it and just EQ it down... I guess it depends on time of the day, my body condition and ear fatigue level, etc.  I suppose I'm extra sensitive in this region compared to others though..


Edited by K_19 - 9/14/13 at 11:25am
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It's interesting with the 207's... I do find the aforementioned slight bump up near 1~3K region to be bothersome for some songs, but on certain days it can even be even more enjoyable due to how forward vocal can sound... but on other days I have a hard time tolerating it and just EQ it down... I guess it depends on time of the day, my body condition and ear fatigue level, etc.  I suppose I'm extra sensitive in this region compared to others though..

Can anyone tell me wether that "bump" is equally present in the sr307/407?
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Is there any way to reduce the clamping force on the Lambdas? They have quite a bit of clamping force on my jaw and it aches after some time... :/

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Is there any way to reduce the clamping force on the Lambdas? They have quite a bit of clamping force on my jaw and it aches after some time... :/

 

I can't think of a way that doesn't involve replacing the headband/arc assembly outright.

 

That "beater" Lambda of mine actually gave me a mistaken impression of a vintage Lambda arc's clamping force for years, since it's so loose that the headphones will fall off your head if you tilt too much. A cared-for vintage Lambda will have a bit more force than that, enough to at least securely keep the set on my head.

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Is there any way to reduce the clamping force on the Lambdas? They have quite a bit of clamping force on my jaw and it aches after some time... :/

Just stretch it by putting it on a tissue box or something like that (the item should probably be bigger than your head), and leave it there for a day or 2.


Edited by rx79ez08 - 9/14/13 at 11:48pm
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Shrink your head.

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It's interesting with the 207's... I do find the aforementioned slight bump up near 1~3K region to be bothersome for some songs, but on certain days it can even be even more enjoyable due to how forward vocal can sound... but on other days I have a hard time tolerating it and just EQ it down... I guess it depends on time of the day, my body condition and ear fatigue level, etc.  I suppose I'm extra sensitive in this region compared to others though..


 



Question... Which cans did you have before the stax and liked? I just want to get an idea whether the 1-3khz bothers you even when coming from something like grados. I mean if a grado user for example finds the 1-3khz region bad on these then it is worth looking into because it may become a problem. Coming from hd650s though, I would understand it more if they were just a little shoutier than those.
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The regular Grado models are like razor sharp blades to the ears compared to the 207.
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I just heard the Stax Lambda Pro at a meet yesterday. I was completely blown away. No headphones I've ever heard come close to the resolution and texture reproduction of the Stax. Needless to say I am working on getting an entry level system right now. Hopefully I can put together something similar for $1000 or so.

 

Good thing I found this thread.

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Originally Posted by K_19 View Post

It's interesting with the 207's... I do find the aforementioned slight bump up near 1~3K region to be bothersome for some songs, but on certain days it can even be even more enjoyable due to how forward vocal can sound... but on other days I have a hard time tolerating it and just EQ it down... I guess it depends on time of the day, my body condition and ear fatigue level, etc.  I suppose I'm extra sensitive in this region compared to others though..


 



Question... Which cans did you have before the stax and liked? I just want to get an idea whether the 1-3khz bothers you even when coming from something like grados. I mean if a grado user for example finds the 1-3khz region bad on these then it is worth looking into because it may become a problem. Coming from hd650s though, I would understand it more if they were just a little shoutier than those.

Cans/iem's I have liked include HD650 (but I did not enjoy the 600 as much, they also seem to have bit of a bump somewhere around 3-4k), HD800, LCD-2's (which I have still), SR-007, SE530, Phonak PFE... As you can see lot of these cans are ones known as mid-centric and you can probably tell I do like then forward a little, but not to the point where the vocals get that "shout" quality to them.... And thus I can be quite picky about the smallest peaks and dips in this region (to my ears of course). Examples of some of the cans I found to have that bit of the bothersome 1~4k or so peak (again, only to my ears of course) are K701, ZX700, HD600, RS-1 with flats, etc.

The only Grados I've enjoyed in the past are RS-1, only when with modded flats so they're warmer sounding (couldn't listen to them from bowls for too long)... I find the rest of the line unsuitable for my ears.

But overall the midrange peak on the 207's though IMO are tolerable enough most of the time, they just slightly tread that fine line a bit at times on songs that have upfront vocals. I'd probably think that most people wouldn't find it to be too much of a problem.
Edited by K_19 - 9/15/13 at 9:51am
post #420 of 1069
ahh I get it now. I also found a peak in the upper mids of the hd600s by the way. They weren't ultra offensive to me but now at least I can gauge how sensitive you are to these things. I think the 207 may just have that in the same degree as the 202 I used to have which i noticed but didn't bother me all that much.
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