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post #1516 of 1527
Thanks davidsh, good to know.

Chris and sam... if you google "herandu" you can see the mess Stanley caused here a couple years ago. A lot of OG members wont buy from him because of what happened
post #1517 of 1527

That was a fun read...LOL.  Messy.  Still like the product.

 

HS

post #1518 of 1527
Hi there,
Between Stax 207 with the 252 amp and the Stax 507 with the same 252 amp, what do you think about this battle of stax's headphone ?
Don't you think the 507 is not at is maximum possibility with my current amp (srm 252 Stax) ?
I have a ps audio nuwave like dac.

Many thanks for your answer guys.
Cya.
post #1519 of 1527
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post #1520 of 1527
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by west93600 View Post

Hi there,
Between Stax 207 with the 252 amp and the Stax 507 with the same 252 amp, what do you think about this battle of stax's headphone ?
Don't you think the 507 is not at is maximum possibility with my current amp (srm 252 Stax) ?
I have a ps audio nuwave like dac.

Many thanks for your answer guys.
Cya.

One person, who's opinion I trust, advised me to upgrade the amp first.
post #1521 of 1527
From my experience, most of the Lambda earspeakers more or less sound similar. Tyll's measurements on Innerfidelity confirm that; generally the older units are brighter, less smooth throughout the frequency response, and have a more pronounced 9-10 kHz peak.

The measured differences between the SR-207 and the 507 look really minimal to me.


I'd personally upgrade the amp first since I've read that the SRM-252S is the weakest link in the chain for the earspeakers, assuming you have a decent DAC and music files.
post #1522 of 1527
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

From my experience, most of the Lambda earspeakers more or less sound similar. Tyll's measurements on Innerfidelity confirm that; generally the older units are brighter, less smooth throughout the frequency response, and have a more pronounced 9-10 kHz peak.

The measured differences between the SR-207 and the 507 look really minimal to me.


I'd personally upgrade the amp first since I've read that the SRM-252S is the weakest link in the chain for the earspeakers, assuming you have a decent DAC and music files.


Its so interesting to me.  tylls measurements conflict with most reviews that I have read pretty consistently.  In fact I've read the opposite is true most of the time.  the upper end lambdas surely have more frequency extension, but smoother?  I've never heard that.  The original sr-lambda is one of the smoothest in the lambda line.  when compared against the new offerings from the 307 up, I would never call it bright.

 

Not slamming the measurements.  I guess it just seems that they don't tell the whole story, or that there are other factors involved? amp, cables, etc.. ?

 

I'm not expert here, just voicing an observance and opinion.

post #1523 of 1527

I have not heard the 507, but I have the 407 which reportedly have the same driver as the 507. I heard someone mentioned the modern Lambdas are more tuned towards modern pop music, I think I would agree with that.

 

I found the 407 to have more bass than the previous Lambda, but it all sounds a bit muddy compared to older Lambda like the Nova Signature and the Signature. I heard someone calling the bass out of PS1000 good bass, I would agree with that. To me the bass out of a 407 is neither crisp or accurate enough. With the 407, notes seem to linger for a bit more. They are still fast, the characteristic Stax sound is still there, but just not as crisp.

post #1524 of 1527
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Originally Posted by Keithpgdrb View Post

Its so interesting to me.  tylls measurements conflict with most reviews that I have read pretty consistently.  In fact I've read the opposite is true most of the time.  the upper end lambdas surely have more frequency extension, but smoother?  I've never heard that.  The original sr-lambda is one of the smoothest in the lambda line.  when compared against the new offerings from the 307 up, I would never call it bright.

Not slamming the measurements.  I guess it just seems that they don't tell the whole story, or that there are other factors involved? amp, cables, etc.. ?

I'm not expert here, just voicing an observance and opinion.
Where are the reviews you've read?
Here's one that I found:
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Above data clearly shows the difference between Professional, Signature, and SR-207: As expected, compared to the other two, SR-207 is further damped by a few decibels in the treble for less harshness with its lower/higher ends further extended. Here's a rule of thumb for STAX headphones: The more recent the model is, the wider the frequency bandwidth becomes.

And I would say the SR-207 is indeed less harsh than the Lambda Signature and Nova Basic when I listened to them. The latter sounded much brighter to me compared to the 207.


Or here too, the 404 LE came out after the 404 Signature, and that came out after the Lambda Pro.
http://www.headfonia.com/sr-404le-sr-404-signature-and-sr-lambda-pro/4/
Edited by miceblue - 5/3/15 at 4:53pm
post #1525 of 1527

Ah, I see where your coming from now.  Yes, there are most definitely vintage stax that are more harsh then the new offerings.  I guess I was thinking of the original sr lambda, lambda nova signature, and the discontinued 404LE specifically.  I was speaking to the generalization that vintage stax are bright.  I don't think that is true.  I think there are vintage stax that fit that description, but not all of them.  The signature is known for its etch for sure.  so any of the new offerings would likely be warmer then that.

 

I've heard most of these cans for extended periods.  I own the SR-Lambda.

post #1526 of 1527
Quote:
Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

From my experience, most of the Lambda earspeakers more or less sound similar. Tyll's measurements on Innerfidelity confirm that; generally the older units are brighter, less smooth throughout the frequency response, and have a more pronounced 9-10 kHz peak.

The measured differences between the SR-207 and the 507 look really minimal to me.


I'd personally upgrade the amp first since I've read that the SRM-252S is the weakest link in the chain for the earspeakers, assuming you have a decent DAC and music files.

I had the same feeling when I listened to a SR-307 connected to two different amps, there is an audible difference... yet I opted for the cheaper 2170 combo to start with. I read somewhere else that some people do not hear any difference between amps which I could not really believe

Which amp would you recommend with a SR-207 as an upgrade ?
post #1527 of 1527
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Originally Posted by TominJapan View Post

I had the same feeling when I listened to a SR-307 connected to two different amps, there is an audible difference... yet I opted for the cheaper 2170 combo to start with. I read somewhere else that some people do not hear any difference between amps which I could not really believe

Which amp would you recommend with a SR-207 as an upgrade ?
I was recommended that the SRM-323 model is really the best option from STAX in terms of price and performance. Spritzer agrees too, at least for the currently-produced products.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/listening-great-headphone-amplifiers-and-stax-sr-900
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