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Originally Posted by sunneebear View Post

In that case, if you like the sound of the stock cable, this is a bargain.  I'm fine with the sound, just don't like the stiffness of the stock.  Stripping the cable and putting it into paracord does help immensely.
Never thought of doing that. Great idea. A fellow head-fier built me one out of some nice flexible wire and Paracord. Mini XLR terminated with adapters for 1/4, XLR4 and 1/8. I'm not one to hear sound differences in cables (Y-wires demo today had me rethinking that), I just wanted a more flexible cable.
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They are nice looking cables with quality workmanship, but no mention of the most important thing.......the wire that is used!  I would look for the latest cutting edge technology, Type 4 or Type 6 Litz, It doesn't corrode, and the sound is phenomenal, aka Norne Vanquish, Double Helix Cables!

The Norne Vanquish with the Alpha Dog is absolutely end game performance from top to bottom. It really brings out the best of the Alpha Dog with a more open coherent soundstage, increased detail in high frequency, tighter controlled bass, and it helps them "brighten" up a little bit I thought the Canare stock cable is relatively dark and mid-rangey

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The Norne Vanquish with the Alpha Dog is absolutely end game performance from top to bottom. It really brings out the best of the Alpha Dog with a more open coherent soundstage, increased detail in high frequency, tighter controlled bass, and it helps them "brighten" up a little bit I thought the Canare stock cable is relatively dark and mid-rangey

Thank you! I will be calling Trevor in August!
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Originally Posted by olegausany View Post

+1
If you're looking for bass you should try HE-560

 

No!

 

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IMO, the Alpha Dogs have better bass quantity and quality as compared to the HE-560!

 

Yes!

 

:p

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And I thought the ADs weren't known for their bass quantity. I guess the 560s don't have any bass?

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No the 560s got plenty of bass.  I remember listening to a buddy's mad dog after using my he-400 for a while.  It felt bass light and I wanted a little more.  When using my 560 after the HE-400 I didn't want any more bass.

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Alpha Dogs have plenty of bass, and it is more prominent than what you'll get with the Mad Dog IME. In fact, latest measurements I've seen and taken, along with subjective tests, make me believe it is actually slightly elevated below 100Hz on the AD. Tastefully so, IMO, and harmonic distortion is low enough so that it is fairly clean (but not the cleanest relative to something like the HE560).

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And I thought the ADs weren't known for their bass quantity. I guess the 560s don't have any bass?

Alpha Dogs have outstanding bass. I don't know where you heard that but that is definitely not the case.

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Alpha Dogs have outstanding bass. I don't know where you heard that but that is definitely not the case.


+1

 

So far the AD's have out-classed every headphone I've tried, in both quality and quantity of bass.  The thing is, they don't pull bass out of thin-air.  If it wasn't mastered with full, impactful bass, they don't create it.

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Alpha Dogs have outstanding bass. I don't know where you heard that but that is definitely not the case.


I think you missed my point. I never said they didn't have quality bass. In fact, I like the bass on the ADs. I was referring to a few comments that they didn't have enough bass.

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BURN IN  - For those who've been wondering about burn in for the Alpha Dogs (and for burn in "non-believers"), a question was asked in the Mad Dog thread about burn in for the Mad Dogs, as follows:

 

"Question, what is MrSpeakers official line on burn in? Been following the HE560 thread and the Hifiman reps have been talking about doing a 250hour burn in before giving impressions, because the MagPlanar drivers need to burn in/work themselves out etc."

 

Dan replied "I usually say 40-100 hours."

 

Here's the link:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/666284/mrspeakers-mad-dog-impressions-and-discussion-thread/2805    

 

See post 2819

 

Since the same drivers are used for the Mad Dog and Alpha Dog, it follows that the same 40-100 hours would apply to the Alpha Dog.

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^+a big 1, my Alpha Dogs came last Saturday, with the "new" drivers I started with 2 Dog Treats a side, with 8 days of nightly use that has dropped to one. Plus, using JRiver, I increased the bass (<40 HZ) by +3 DB, that is back down to flat now with most recordings. Burn in, break in, call it what you will, mechanical devices do change with use. I believe that it is almost universally a superior change because a) most produced if designed/manufactured well, match the sonics of the final prototype, which probably is well "burned in". Just IMO, though I am a behavioral scientist, not an engineer, so insert grain of salt....
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Just for the sake of balance, I never experienced burn-in with the AD's, brain or mechanical.  They 'fit' just right with my audio cortex.  Grado's took a while to get used to.

 

Doggie treats did calm down the occasional treble spike, which seemed dependent on the mix of the music. But I could easily live without them.

 

I'm not trying to challenge anyone, just report my personal and subjective experience.

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I'll chime in - my mad dogs settled in after a couple hours. Or I settled in. They have been upgraded to alphas, so no comments on AD burn in.
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I had both of those headphones. The mids an highs are just another class on the alphas. Bass is drastically different though. It's sharp fast and accurate on the alphas whereas the x1 was deep and boomy. The alphas also need much more power I can't get to to loud enough levels on a phone or tablet whereas the X1 had no problems so a proper amp is needed. The sound isolation is great on the alphas I can't hear my video cards whine when gaming. The pads are not dust magnets since they are leather and not velour and are replaceable (come on Phillips!) I ended up selling the Fidelio X1 since I enjoyed the alphas so much but I do miss them for movies.


Sorry for late reply, but could you expand on comparison on mids and highs between X1 and AD. How about the sound stage?

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