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Thoroguhly enjoying my Alpha Dog at work. One problem though, and it's actually been a problem since my AD's were MD's. It seems that the right cup doesn't seal on my head as well as the left cup, and it feels awkward. I think I may have bent the headband unequally; is this a likely diagnosis? A current band-aid solution is lowering my right cup further than my left, which makes it feel more even.

 

here's a picture of the AD's on their stand, where the imbalance is apparent:

 

post #7502 of 8751
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A current band-aid solution is lowering my right cup further than my left, which makes it feel more even.

I hope this doesn't sound stupid but have you considered whether your ears aren't level? I know that mine aren't...

post #7503 of 8751
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I hope this doesn't sound stupid but have you considered whether your ears aren't level? I know that mine aren't...

Uhh... wow... I actually never considered this one, haha. Not stupid at all, quite insightful actually. :D 

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I hope this doesn't sound stupid but have you considered whether your ears aren't level? I know that mine aren't...

+1 Me too

post #7505 of 8751
I got better seal by shortening leather part of the headband (see some previous posts).
post #7506 of 8751

Alpha Dog measurements on Innerfidelity for the curious.  Alpha Dog

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Alpha Dog measurements on Innerfidelity for the curious.  Alpha Dog

 

Doggie Treated version of the Alpha Dog?

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Doggie Treated version of the Alpha Dog?

I am curious as to if he used the black felt discs with the AD measurement. At the little talk with Dan & Tyll is when he tested he enjoyed the ADs with one disc more than no disc and 2 discs

post #7509 of 8751
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Alpha Dog measurements on Innerfidelity for the curious.  Alpha Dog

I can't wait for this review!
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I am curious as to if he used the black felt discs with the AD measurement. At the little talk with Dan & Tyll is when he tested he enjoyed the ADs with one disc more than no disc and 2 discs

 

Yes, he played with the vent and the treats.  

post #7511 of 8751

I'm happy to see Tyll's measurements on these.  I'm curious which setup this one corresponds to (most likely one disc).

 

I've compared Tyll's frequency response of the Alpha Dog to some other measurements in his database and find that the Alpha Dog's matches that of the pre-fazor LCD-2v2 quite closely except for the very extremes.  The Alpha Dog has a bit more mid- and sub-bass (+4dB or so), and the Alpha Dog rolls off after 10kHz -- these are the two main differences.  The midrange and lower treble of the Alpha Dog is close to all of the Audeze offerings, in fact.  

 

I also call your attention to the graph NEXT to the frequency graph -- the one titled "Isolation".  That curve is one of the best in Tyll's database if sound isolation is your goal. In fact, it rivals the Howard Leight Sync which is a passive-only isolation-first headphone with a ragged frequency response (although the Sync does isolate better in the midrange).  Two thoughts come to mind:  1)  With a little DIY electronics, the Alpha Dog could turn into an incredible active noise cancellation headset from an acoustic isolation point of view (not saying anything about the sound -- usually such systems mess up the system fidelity IMO).  2)  Even without any active noise cancellation, the Alpha Dog is a great isolating headphone.  It makes me think I should take it to the racetrack the next time I attend a race.  The size of the headphone is not a problem there, and the automotive paint would even fit the venue.  

 

EDIT:  I just checked the difference, and Audeze LCD-2 ver 2 and Alpha Dog come to within +/-4dB of each other from the subbass to 10kHz -- and this is without any measurement smoothing on Tyll's data.  If smoothing is applied, I would think the difference would fall to within +/-3dB, which many would recognize as the old-school similarity tolerance for frequency response.  When I first heard the Alpha Dog, I told Dan that I don't think it needs any EQ.  Given that my own sonic signature preference falls squarely within the Audeze camp, now I have some confirmation as to why.   I have both of these headphones, I listen to both, and I keep the EQ flat on both. 


Edited by jazzman7 - 6/30/14 at 8:26pm
post #7512 of 8751
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Originally Posted by jazzman7 View Post
 

I'm happy to see Tyll's measurements on these.  I'm curious which setup this one corresponds to (most likely one disc).

 

I've compared Tyll's frequency response of the Alpha Dog to some other measurements in his database and find that the Alpha Dog's matches that of the pre-fazor LCD-2v2 quite closely except for the very extremes.  The Alpha Dog has a bit more mid- and sub-bass (+4dB or so), and the Alpha Dog rolls off after 10kHz -- these are the two main differences.  The midrange and lower treble of the Alpha Dog is close to all of the Audeze offerings, in fact.  

 

I also call your attention to the graph NEXT to the frequency graph -- the one titled "Isolation".  That curve is one of the best in Tyll's database if sound isolation is your goal. In fact, it rivals the Howard Leight Sync which is a passive-only isolation-first headphone with a ragged frequency response (although the Sync does isolate better in the midrange).  Two thoughts come to mind:  1)  With a little DIY electronics, the Alpha Dog could turn into an incredible active noise cancellation headset from an acoustic isolation point of view (not saying anything about the sound -- usually such systems mess up the system fidelity IMO).  2)  Even without any active noise cancellation, the Alpha Dog is a great isolating headphone.  It makes me think I should take it to the racetrack the next time I attend a race.  The size of the headphone is not a problem there, and the automotive paint would even fit the venue.  

 

EDIT:  I just checked the difference, and Audeze LCD-2 ver 2 and Alpha Dog come to within +/-4dB of each other from the subbass to 10kHz -- and this is without any measurement smoothing on Tyll's data.  If smoothing is applied, I would think the difference would fall to within +/-3dB, which many would recognize as the old-school similarity tolerance for frequency response.  When I first heard the Alpha Dog, I told Dan that I don't think it needs any EQ.  Given that my own sonic signature preference falls squarely within the Audeze camp, now I have some confirmation as to why.   I have both of these headphones, I listen to both, and I keep the EQ flat on both. 

Nice insight. I like that it measures very closely to the LCD-2v2 which puts it in the ballpark to play with the flagship headphones. A very nice $600 headphone that matches my sound preference.

 

I do wonder though how the Alpha Dog would sound with active noise cancellation. A marketing idea to break into the mainstream? Eep scratch that idea anything related to the Beats market makes me sick to my stomach.

 

Maybe an audiophile's dream upgrade from the Bose QC 15?

post #7513 of 8751
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Originally Posted by wahsmoh View Post
 

Nice insight. I like that it measures very closely to the LCD-2v2 which puts it in the ballpark to play with the flagship headphones. A very nice $600 headphone that matches my sound preference.

 

I do wonder though how the Alpha Dog would sound with active noise cancellation. A marketing idea to break into the mainstream? Eep scratch that idea anything related to the Beats market makes me sick to my stomach.

 

Maybe an audiophile's dream upgrade from the Bose QC 15?

The DIY project in my mind is to forget about pumping high quality sound through the ANC circuit and focus on making the best active isolating earmuffs one could make.  The Alpha Dog is a good start because it isolates the high frequencies of the outside world so well -- ANC is only effective at low frequencies due to physical wavelengths, and usually below 500Hz. 

 

Although I like ANC and use it when I fly at times, I think it is a bit at odds with high fidelity sound in the way it is implemented in consumer products.  

post #7514 of 8751
One day there was a fire alarm in my company and people started leaving office. However I had Alphas on my ears and my eyes completely focused on computer screen. I didn't hear the alarm! If didn't suddenly look away from monitor I would have been the only person who stayed in the office. Dangerous Alphas ... biggrin.gif
post #7515 of 8751

Has anyone experienced more bass out of one side? I'm not sure if it my ears or if my right ear cup driver has more bass than the left. It is probably me but is this normal?

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