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post #6811 of 8576

The 800's work on pretty much anything. These guys and their magical amp combos are on glue.

I run my 800's off a creative ZxR, Burson 160, minidot 3, O2, LYR ... blah blah blah. They sound awesome on all of them. If every person on HeadFI could actually hear as good as they think they can, we'd have golden ear challenge winners all over the place..... except no ones ever won it in 20 years......

post #6812 of 8576
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Originally Posted by TheGovernment View Post

The 800's work on pretty much anything. These guys and their magical amp combos are on glue.
I run my 800's off a creative ZxR, Burson 160, minidot 3, O2, LYR ... blah blah blah. They sound awesome on all of them. If every person on HeadFI could actually hear as good as they think they can, we'd have golden ear challenge winners all over the place..... except no ones ever won it in 20 years......
I would generalize this to most (all?) headphones including the alphas, impedance and gain mismatches considered of course. Some amps are better than others. A decent amp won't make or break a headphone though. A good amp will likely sound better up to some point.
post #6813 of 8576
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Originally Posted by TheGovernment View Post

The 800's work on pretty much anything. These guys and their magical amp combos are on glue.
I run my 800's off a creative ZxR, Burson 160, minidot 3, O2, LYR ... blah blah blah. They sound awesome on all of them. If every person on HeadFI could actually hear as good as they think they can, we'd have golden ear challenge winners all over the place..... except no ones ever won it in 20 years......
Haha. Yeah, I agree that most amps work for most headphones. I think the HD800 reveals deficiencies in DACs and source material more than the amp.
post #6814 of 8576
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Originally Posted by TheGovernment View Post
 

The 800's work on pretty much anything. These guys and their magical amp combos are on glue.

I run my 800's off a creative ZxR, Burson 160, minidot 3, O2, LYR ... blah blah blah. They sound awesome on all of them. If every person on HeadFI could actually hear as good as they think they can, we'd have golden ear challenge winners all over the place..... except no ones ever won it in 20 years......


Easy there fellow bopper, you're starting to sound like the government........

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On second thought never mind, you're just being yourself, carry on.

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post #6815 of 8576

talk about going off topic, I asked a question and maybe one answer and the rest have little to do with the questions I asked...thanks guys :/

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talk about going off topic, I asked a question and maybe one answer and the rest have little to do with the questions I asked...thanks guys :/


The Alpha Dogs are inherently harder to drive as they are an inefficient Planar Magnetic driver as opposed to the HD800s which use a Dynamic driver.

Planar magnetic drivers usually have low impedance but are inefficient, I think most people suggest you need at least ~600mW at 50 ohms where as I'm guessing the HD800 could be driven well off much less at 300 ohms.

 

Someone please correct me if any of this is wrong, relatively new too most of this business :beyersmile:

post #6817 of 8576
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The Alpha Dogs are inherently harder to drive as they are an inefficient Planar Magnetic driver as opposed to the HD800s which use a Dynamic driver.

Planar magnetic drivers usually have low impedance but are inefficient, I think most people suggest you need at least ~600mW at 50 ohms where as I'm guessing the HD800 could be driven well off much less at 300 ohms.

 

Someone please correct me if any of this is wrong, relatively new too most of this business :beyersmile:

 

 

I thought so too, but Dan also tuned these T50rp for better performance, so i'm not sure which is easier to drive. Reason I ask this question is because I just bought an Alo audio RX (original) and some reviewer I found are with the HD800

post #6818 of 8576
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Originally Posted by Law87 View Post
 

 

 

I thought so too, but Dan also tuned these T50rp for better performance, so i'm not sure which is easier to drive. Reason I ask this question is because I just bought an Alo audio RX (original) and some reviewer I found are with the HD800


Even still I would say they physically need more wattage going into them then the dynamic driver in the HD800.

 

edit: typo fix:meant to type more not less :blink:


Edited by TeskR - 4/29/14 at 11:47pm
post #6819 of 8576
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Even still I would say they physically need less wattage going into them then the dynamic driver in the HD800.

I wouldn't.

Anyway, let's get back on topic.
post #6820 of 8576

Just received my gloss black Alpha Dog, they are nothing less than amazing!

 

However I often listen to music loud and need to depending on the situation but with the arrow 3g it just doesn't quite cut it. I would like another portable, reasonably cheap amp that is very capable of driving these. My first thought was the E12 but would that be a big step up from the arrow?

 

If there are any other reasonably priced recommendations please let me know (up to $400).

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Just received my gloss black Alpha Dog, they are nothing less than amazing!

 

However I often listen to music loud and need to depending on the situation but with the arrow 3g it just doesn't quite cut it. I would like another portable, reasonably cheap amp that is very capable of driving these. My first thought was the E12 but would that be a big step up from the arrow?

 

If there are any other reasonably priced recommendations please let me know (up to $400).

ifi iCan, either the micro or the nano.

post #6822 of 8576
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ifi iCan, either the micro or the nano.


+1!

post #6823 of 8576

I am not sure of the actual power that the arrow delivers so I am unsure of the amount of power I need by comparison. The Ican nano doesn't look appealing at all being 150mw into 32ohm where as the other ican does 400mw seams better but still isn't the 880mw of the E12. I know there is probably more at play here but I know the arrow is already no slouch not to mention the X-mini is an option at that price.


Edited by reminence - 4/29/14 at 1:15pm
post #6824 of 8576
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Originally Posted by reminence View Post
 

I am not sure of the actual power that the arrow delivers so I am unsure of the amount of power I need by comparison. The Ican nano doesn't look appealing at all being 150mw into 32ohm where as the other ican does 400mw seams better but still isn't the 880mw of the E12. I know there is probably more at play here but I know the arrow is already no slouch not to mention the X-mini is an option at that price.

yeah, i actually think the nano will be underpowered. when i had the ADs, my nano iDSD couldn't drive them very well. i think the micro iCan should fare better...

post #6825 of 8576
My initial impressions compared with my he500 is that I find the ADs more resolving, the bass is not as thick. I can clearly hear the vocals without the background instruments mudding the foreground. It's surprising how open the ADs are. Sometimes I feel that they are as open as the he500s but it may be because the vocals are so clear. I do miss some of the bass. The HDVD800 drives them well. I do not have another amp to compare to. With my mbp volume to 100%, player at 100%, the hdvd800 knob is at around the 30-40%. I'll continue listening and give more impressions.

Edited by sobrietywarrior - 4/29/14 at 5:26pm
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