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post #5941 of 8127
Agh, ok. I just stick to whatever works on all my equipment. MP3 always works. Lol.
post #5942 of 8127

cant wait ... just ordered these.

 

will be my mobile and office setup.

 

AK120 -> Centrance M8 -> Alpha Dogs (portable)

AK120 -> ALO Pan Am  -> Alpha Dogs (office)

Yulong DA8 -> dual mono Questyle CMA800R  -> Alpha Dogs (home)

post #5943 of 8127
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Originally Posted by hydesg View Post
 

cant wait ... just ordered these.

 

will be my mobile and office setup.

 

AK120 -> Centrance M8 -> Alpha Dogs (portable)

AK120 -> ALO Pan Am  -> Alpha Dogs (office)

Yulong DA8 -> dual mono Questyle CMA800R  -> Alpha Dogs (home)

the M8 > AD is a great combo

post #5944 of 8127
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the M8 > AD is a great combo

M8 > TH-900 BAD Combo (IM humble O).  This is why I sold my M8-LX

post #5945 of 8127
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Originally Posted by sunneebear View Post
 

I sold my HE-6 and LCD-2 just from reading the reviews of the MD.  Being a closed headphone was a part of that decision but it is my best buy in headphones.  The MD was my favorite all around for a long time till the AD was out.  I am still in awe of what Dan did with the little Fostex drivers.

 

I played this video today and thought the AD sounded pretty sweet.  Then I turned on my speakers and found out how sad they really are.  The speakers couldn't product a third of the song.

 

 

Bad ass job Dan!

 

For a lark, I tried this using my Shure SE846's and my head started to vibrate. I was an interesting and disturbing experience. But it proved that the sub-bass (woofer) aspect of the SE846's are doing their job. 

post #5946 of 8127
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Originally Posted by MattAnthony1990 View Post

False. Try the LCD2s or LCD3s and you can feel the bass from within the cans. 

I own a pair of LCD 3's actually and did some research and it turns out that they DO NOT produce actual bass. They can hit the low frequencies but no ACTUAL bass. An easy test would be to pull one cup off your ear or one iem off. You are really only perceiving the bass. Which is why so many people have different opinions of bass signature on the same cans.
Which doesn't really matter in the scheme of things.
Edited by Rawdawg3234 - 2/23/14 at 6:08am
post #5947 of 8127

Hahaha.. what is 'ACTUAL' bass? 

post #5948 of 8127
Here is suggestion from my side to ones who think AD bass is weak. If you use Foobar get IIR plugin and choose CD De-Emphasis and see if this makes you happy. Note that when you play in Foobar Red Book CD audio (whether directly from CD or ripped) the emphasis information is not taken into account, that means that some CD's are played good, because they were recorded without emphasis, and some CDs sound lacking bass, because they do have emphasis. If you used reference CD player device that complies to Red Book standard, then it would decode emphasis, which is stored on the CD is special place, to which Foobar has no access. Anyways IIR filter DSP plugin solves that issue. It's not automatic, and it's up to you to decide whether you need it or not, but you would be surprised how much better some CD's sound if you actually turn De-emphasis on. When it comes to Alpha Dog I would never say they lack bass. After few hours of listening to Dark Knight Returns soundtrack I got a serious headache, so bass is there, and it's quite a lot of it there. Actually that album I got in 192/24 from HD tracks, so no need for IIR, and still there is huge amount of bass in the performance of Alpha Dogs, even if I decreased bass amount by opening ports by one turn of the Very Bass screws. In this setting Alpha Dogs signature resembles my loudspeakers, and that makes me happy, and getting less headaches and ear pains, since I like loud listening smily_headphones1.gif I think some of you may have received Alpha Dogs recently, and you see treble slightly harsh and bass slightly weak, but I can tell you from my experience that these cans do burn-in in time. It is now over half year I use them and their sound is more defined and more pleasant. Disclaimer: YMMV biggrin.gif
Edited by koolas - 2/23/14 at 6:24am
post #5949 of 8127
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Originally Posted by Rawdawg3234 View Post

I own a pair of LCD 3's actually and did some research and it turns out that they DO NOT produce actual bass. They can hit the low frequencies but no ACTUAL bass. An easy test would be to pull one cup off your ear or one iem off. You are really only perceiving the bass.

 

I did some research and found that no headphone produces any ACTUAL sound. You are really just perceiving the sound.

post #5950 of 8127
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

Hahaha.. what is 'ACTUAL' bass? 

Ha ha. I'm talking about actual impact. The force of air being moved. Have you never been to a concert? Even a movie theatre? Most would describe bass as an external force. A lot of companies use virtual pitch in their designs because let's face it, audiophiles aren't very demanding when it comes to bass. Which is also why you'll see headphones that use some other mechanism to "shake" the cans as well. I think skull candy sells a pair.
Edited by Rawdawg3234 - 2/23/14 at 6:58am
post #5951 of 8127

We've all been to concerts and movie theaters.  Bass is both heard and felt.  Headphones are perfectly capable of reproducing bass down to 20hz.  Just because you can't feel it doesn't mean it isn't actual bass.  I'm pretty sure a bass guitar doesn't resonate my chest cavity.

post #5952 of 8127
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

We've all been to concerts and movie theaters.  Bass is both heard and felt.  Headphones are perfectly capable of reproducing bass down to 20hz.  Just because you can't feel it doesn't mean it isn't actual bass.  I'm pretty sure a bass guitar doesn't resonate my chest cavity.

Very true. I believe anything under 20hz is felt more than heard, although some claim to be able to hear 15hz which i never could. I'm not here trying to bash on headphones. I was just curious because I read a few articles by manufacturers saying things of the same nature. I was trying to discuss it but had the wrong people answer I suppose.

Although a bass guitar can and will "thump" your chest.


Edited by Rawdawg3234 - 2/23/14 at 7:17am
post #5953 of 8127

Yes give enough amplitude by the speakers the sound outputting from them will thump your chest.

 

The bass guitar was a bad example, but there are many acoustic bass instruments that will not resonate your chest.


Edited by TMRaven - 2/23/14 at 7:26am
post #5954 of 8127

This is one of the stranger conversations I've read on HF. What do you think produces that "actual bass" in the theater? 

post #5955 of 8127
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

This is one of the stranger conversations I've read on HF. What do you think produces that "actual bass" in the theater? 

Lower frequencies. Anything under 20hz can no longer be heard but felt.
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