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post #4216 of 8822

FYI - after doing the burn-in, my reaction on the Schiit Vali amp is that it is a reasonable choice for the Mad Dog, but less suitable for the Alpha Dog.  See the Vali thread if you want specifics.

 

I continue to find the Alpha Dog to be a superior choice for all acoustic music.  The resolution, detail and soundstage are better than the Mad Dog, and the strong points of the Alpha Dog are shown to best advantage in acoustic music, especially classical music.

 

With EDM, reggae and similar bass heavy music, I find the more pronounced bass and slightly greater perceived dynamics of the Mad Dog can be more enjoyable than the neutral and flat Alpha Dog.

 

In other music, it can be a tossup.  For example, on Dark Side of the Moon, the Alpha Dog is enjoyable for its detail and soundstage, while the Mad Dog is enjoyable in a different way for its perceived dynamics and stronger bass.

 

Having said this, each does a fine job on all genres, and you can enjoy all genres regardless of which you choose.


Edited by kstuart - 12/2/13 at 5:41pm
post #4217 of 8822

Thanks for the info.  I've been thinking of a solid state amp like the Emotiva Mini and then the Vali came along as a SS-tube hybrid.  Figured I'd wait to hear to the reviews and seems like it is a pass for the Alpha Dog.  If people have other suggestions for solid state amps ($200-300) lets hear them.  

 

 

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Originally Posted by kstuart View Post
 

FYI - after doing the burn-in, my reaction on the Schiit Vali amp is that it is a reasonable choice for the Mad Dog, but less suitable for the Alpha Dog.  See the Vali thread if you want specifics.

 

I continue to find the Alpha Dog to be a superior choice for all acoustic music.  The resolution, detail and soundstage are better than the Mad Dog, and the strong points of the Alpha Dog are shown to best advantage in acoustic music, especially classical music.

post #4218 of 8822
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Thanks for the info.  I've been thinking of a solid state amp like the Emotiva Mini and then the Vali came along as a SS-tube hybrid.  Figured I'd wait to hear to the reviews and seems like it is a pass for the Alpha Dog.  If people have other suggestions for solid state amps ($200-300) lets hear them.  

I have not heard the Emotiva.  But just from what I have read about using the Emotiva with - for example - the HE-500 - my guess is that it is the best production amp available in that price range for planars.   With the Alpha Dog, you would get the cable that goes to XLR and then get an XLR to "speaker taps" cable.  There is an Emotiva thread started by IIRC "Malveaux" that has details.

 

 

post #4219 of 8822
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At $200, For HE500/HE-6 and other planar HPs, I personally don't think there's any production SS HP amps that could beat the performance/price of the Emotiva and can drive speakers with ease to boost.  Yes, you can call me a "convert"  as I was very skeptical about the Mini-X.  Now, I am proclaiming the truth, IMO anyway....


Edited by koiloco - 12/2/13 at 7:20pm
post #4220 of 8822
If a amp provides both SE output and balanced output, Is it better that use the balanced? Is it different between SE and balanced cable of the Alpha dog? Since I had no plan to buy a balanced amp when I ordered the AD, I choose a SE cable but now maybe I'll get a new amp. Do I need chage my order? or need a adapter?
post #4221 of 8822
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At $200, For HE500/HE-6 and other planar HPs, I personally don't think there's any production SS HP amps that could beat the performance/price of the Emotiva and can drive speakers with ease to boost.  Yes, you can call me a "convert"  as I was very skeptical about the Mini-X.  Now, I am proclaiming the truth, IMO anyway....

The only competition would probably be vintage receivers, well, the ones that could be found for under $200 I suppose. If I had something harder to drive than my Q701 I'd be interested in trying one.

post #4222 of 8822
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The only competition would probably be vintage receivers, well, the ones that could be found for under $200 I suppose. If I had something harder to drive than my Q701 I'd be interested in trying one.

+1.

Vintage is another route to go and could be found for quite cheap (even less than $200) but you got to be very careful and check things out thoroughly.  They are old after all. :D 

post #4223 of 8822

That's not easy to answer.  I've heard from well respected amp builders that a good SE amp sounds as good as a balanced amp.  My amp has both SE and balanced outputs.  I haven't been able to tease out any major advantages to either.  The differences may be subtle or unnoticeable.  However, I've heard from other who do studio work and say balanced is necessary because of dirty power.  My understanding is that it is easy to go from balanced to single-ended via an adapter than the other way around.  With that said, if you don't want to worry about an adapter, just buy a stock or aftermarket balanced cable down the road. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by youkeum View Post

If a amp provides both SE output and balanced output, Is it better that use the balanced? Is it different between SE and balanced cable of the Alpha dog? Since I had no plan to buy a balanced amp when I ordered the AD, I choose a SE cable but now maybe I'll get a new amp. Do I need chage my order? or need a adapter?
post #4224 of 8822
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Originally Posted by youkeum View Post

If a amp provides both SE output and balanced output, Is it better that use the balanced? Is it different between SE and balanced cable of the Alpha dog? Since I had no plan to buy a balanced amp when I ordered the AD, I choose a SE cable but now maybe I'll get a new amp. Do I need chage my order? or need a adapter?

With the HE6, My balanced LD MVII+ sounded great.  Noticeably better than my other SE headphone amps and also better than the LD's own SE out.  Speaker amps made me put away the LD even though they were all SE.  I think planars just work well with speaker amps.

 

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+1.

Vintage is another route to go and could be found for quite cheap (even less than $200) but you got to be very careful and check things out thoroughly.  They are old after all. :D 

Emotiva Mini X IMHO still a better route.  $169 shipped.  

Vintage receivers are costly and huge.  Then you have to throw a butt load of money into restoration.  If you can't restore it yourself, the shipping cost alone is more than the Mini X.

post #4225 of 8822
Thanks for your comments WNBC. I would get a balanced and use SE adapter. Even if I get a SE cable, I need to use 3.5 adapter to connect AK100 directly. Based on your opinion, It looks better that choose the balanced, and buy adapters. Thanks smily_headphones1.gif
post #4226 of 8822
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Originally Posted by youkeum View Post

Thanks for your comments WNBC. I would get a balanced and use SE adapter. Even if I get a SE cable, I need to use 3.5 adapter to connect AK100 directly. Based on your opinion, It looks better that choose the balanced, and buy adapters. Thanks smily_headphones1.gif

 

Careful.  You cannot use a SE adapter on a true balance amp.  Completely isolated, no common ground.

post #4227 of 8822

I was thinking he wanted to use a balanced headphone cable with a SE adapter on a single-ended amp.  Then down the road when he has a balanced amp he would just use the cable without an adapter.  Would this be wrong to do?  

 

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Careful.  You cannot use a SE adapter on a true balance amp.  Completely isolated, no common ground.

post #4228 of 8822
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That's what I'm thinking!
post #4229 of 8822
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Don't see the harm in that.  Putting a SE adapter on a true balance amp would be bad.  I'm no expert but I think that is a no no.

post #4230 of 8822

Funny, WNBC's quotes don't show.

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