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@koiloco, @jeremyr, please take it to pm. Thank you.

Edited for politeness...
Edited by aamefford - 11/25/13 at 7:36pm
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

There's a difference between "projecting" and out right twisting other people's words and misunderstood.  Let's chalk this off to miscommunication, shall we?

My apology if your intention was pure.  Posts can be misread quite badly.

 

Sounds good :)

post #4128 of 7930
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Originally Posted by aamefford View Post

@koiloco, @jeremyr, please take it to pm. Thank you.

Edited for politeness...

Let me guess ....  :)

 

Sorry aamefford.  We're all good.  Just a little misunderstanding.

post #4129 of 7930

Christ, sorry you had such a rough welcome to the audiophool world Jeremy.

I haven't heard your sound card, nor do I have the ADs anymore (I only had a tour set), but based on my logic of driving the Mad Dogs (approximately the same power requirements as the ADs) with my $15 Asus Xonar DG, that card will probably be fine to drive the ADs. Will it be ideal for driving the ADs? Probably not, but I can't say without hearing them.

I'll just say this: Personally, I generally think your number one most expensive component should be your headphones, followed by your amp/dac/whatever. If you wanna spend $600 and get the ADs and eventually get a better amp, you'll probably enjoy the ADs now and then enjoy them even more when you get a better amp.

 

It doesn't take "golden ears" to hear the differences between hi-fi headphones and mid-fi headphones, just a little bit of effort and attention to detail. I remember it took me about two weeks of listening before I really started to appreciate my first "decent" headphones, and I've been discovering more and more the more I move up. It's not rocket science.


Edited by mechgamer123 - 11/25/13 at 7:48pm
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post

Let me guess ....  smily_headphones1.gif

Sorry aamefford.  We're all good.  Just a little misunderstanding.
I was being even more of a dink and thought a bit better (just a bit). Must be cranky out tonight - me included.

Back to those Alphas! I think mine show up in a week or so, along with a Burson Soloist SL that I probably don't need but couldn't pass up. Add in my HIFI-M8, and it should be a fun holiday season.

Jeremyr, anyone said "sorry about your wallet" yet?
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Originally Posted by aamefford View Post


I was being even more of a dink and thought a bit better (just a bit). Must be cranky out tonight - me included.

Back to those Alphas! I think mine show up in a week or so, along with a Burson Soloist SL that I probably don't need but couldn't pass up. Add in my HIFI-M8, and it should be a fun holiday season.

Jeremyr, anyone said "sorry about your wallet" yet?

You got it right.  Work has been rough for last couple weeks.  Anyway, that aside, you are the first one to say that to Jeremyr.

 

@Jeremyr, you seem to be willing to spend if it makes sense and quality is there.  AD is already a very good pair of HPs.  While your sound card is not a bad one at all for computer's audio purpose at all, I would strongly suggest going for an external DAC and a decent amp.  I have a very high end sound card in my computer since I built it couple years back.  In my experience, the difference was nite and day.  Btw, what is your budget if you are looking into DAC an amp for your AD?  

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Very keen to order a pair of these, but I'm trying to save my pennies for a HD800 :o First world problems

 

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The way you put it as "earned the right" shows that you are missing my point.

 

The audiophile terminology for what I am talking about is "high end" and "mid-fi".   Someone who just listens to music casually - 99% of people - will actually find that mid-fi gear sounds better to them.

 

However, most people don't even use mid-fi gear.  They use the Apple ear buds with their iPod, or their iPod in those little iPod cradles with two little cheap speakers.   So, if you let them listen to high-end gear, they will find it sounds better.   But they won't think that Alpha Dogs sound better than Sennheiser HD598 or AT M50.

Rubbish. I have had my parents, brother, girlfriend, friends and more notice many differences between a pair of Phillips L1 and a pair of HE500 before ~ in the favor of the HE500. None of whom had listened to anything beyond cheap earbuds, skullcandies and cheap micro systems. I have a buddy who owned a skullcandy hesh note differences with differing models and what they seem to be better for.

 

Even still I'd be amazed if Jeremy didn't hear a noticeable improvement with the AD over the M50.

 

Anyway, I had to have my 2c. Back to the alpha dogs I guess.

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Thanks guys :). Sorry we got off on the wrong foot.

 

And aamefford, your the first to apologize to my wallet :)

 

To be honest I don't really know enough to know what to spend. I know as with anything, as dollars go up you get diminishing returns. I would have no problems whatsoever dropping a grand on something if I even knew what I was buying (how it would sound compared to what I have).

 

I was given the advice early in this thread to just take the AD's when I get them, and go somewhere with some high end equipment, and listen to the options. I think that makes a lot of sense.

 

As for the sound card I have, if you don't know about the specific model, it's kind of cool. It's a headphone only kind of thing (doesn't even do true 7.1 or anything), with a built in headphone amp (when I switch to it, I can hear it click on).

 

 

Here is the info on it

 

 

I think I will listen to it for a while when I get the AD's, and then once I know how it sounds with my sound card, head somewhere with some source material that I know well, and try out some better equipment, so I have a better understanding of what my dollar will buy.


Edited by JeremyR - 11/25/13 at 8:19pm
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^ i have the sound blaster equivalent to that card.  That's actually a very good sound card.  If you are not experiencing any noise issue, the DAC chip and HP amp on that card are actually really decent.  I had the external box for that series before.  If you do wonder what's out there for your AD and other ortho cans, a great place to start would be a DAC in $200 to $400 (though I am not how much better it will be compared to your sound card's built in DAC).  A dedicated HP amp however would be a very obvious improvements.  I am strong supporters of speaker amps for ortho HPs such as AD, HE500 ... The AD doesn't demand too too much pwr to sound properly like HE500, HE-6 but being an ortho, it doesn't hurt either.  In US, for $250 you can get the Emotiva Mini-X and an speaker tap adapter.  This will rock your world.  There's other cheaper speaker amps such as the Lepai or Topping that seem to get quite good feedback.   These range from $25 to $100 ... Don't get the HP bug or you will be really sorry... for your wallet that is. :D 

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lol, yea, this can get expensive quickly. Thanks for the advice.

 

Being we have moved into amp discussion, I think it's good to move this discussion over to the amp section of the site, and let this thread return to everything Alpha Dog!

 

I will read a bunch over there, and post some questions. Thanks for the help!

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Wait until you get your AD before you even consider what DAC/Amp to use with it. In six weeks, new models (and reviews) will be out. The Geek, for instance.

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Originally Posted by JeremyR View Post
 

lol, yea, this can get expensive quickly. Thanks for the advice.

 

Being we have moved into amp discussion, I think it's good to move this discussion over to the amp section of the site, and let this thread return to everything Alpha Dog!

 

I will read a bunch over there, and post some questions. Thanks for the help!

 

Don't know about others but for me this is a non issue because the amp and DAC discussions are all about pairing with the AD's.

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Originally Posted by sunneebear View Post
 

 

Don't know about others but for me this is a non issue because the amp and DAC discussions are all about pairing with the AD's.

 

same. i think good AD pairings at different price points is still a bit of an open question.

 

another option to consider could be the centrance hifi-m8, which has the nice bonus of being portable. A few of us are still waiting on these, i haven't seen many impressions of the combo yet, but hopefully more will appear in the coming weeks.

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Just put down a deposit for the AD's with a local dealer. Hopefully I will get them a couple weeks before Christmas :)

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Hi, does anybody compare the AD´s with the Beyerdynamic T90´s.

The T90´s are the only headphones I´m using at the moment, hoping the AD´s come close.

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