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post #3946 of 7994
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Originally Posted by LarsHP View Post

I think this is a good reason why closed and open headphones really can't be compared on any common playing field. Either one will be better depending on the circumstances.

I like my CIEMs a lot, but switching from them to the open back full size HE-6 makes a dramatic change in listening experience. A closed full size would be more like in an apples to apples comparison with an open one.

That is a very good and fair statement.  However, we can't help it but keep comparing HPs to one another, regardless they are closed or open.  What else would we do on head-fi, right?  :p

post #3947 of 7994
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I'm glad you mention this.  I have the general impression from many, many posts that closed headphones are considered inherently inferior to open headphones based, in large part, on soundstage.  The Ultrasone Signature Pro, for example, is, IMHO, one of the best sounding headphones ever made, yet it is frowned upon and barely mentioned comparatively in this thread despite being one of a handful of closed summit-fi headphones on the market, again IMHO, because it is closed.   In the real world noise is an issue, even in our own homes, and if I truly want to close my eyes and be transported to another place musically, nothing does that better than a closed headphone.  This gives the Alpha Dog an advantage over most of the headphones where comparisons are being made, so I think when some say the Alpha Dog sounds great for a closed headphone it is a bit of a backhanded compliment.  They are just great and  in noisy environments will sound better than just about any open headphone.

 

Let my text beating commence.......................................................:popcorn:

 

 

I actually find it confusing, (bordering amusing) that people compare open with closed directly in such head to head detail. To me they are completely different things and can't be compared directly when it comes to openness. Firstly for me and my situation I can't ever see myself having a use for open headphones, (not seriously enough to warrant buying a pair for $1000+ anyway), so there is no other option period. I tend to skip over all the chat about openness of closed headphones compared to open headphones. It makes absolutely no difference to me. 

 

Fair enough you can compare bass, tonality, treble on all other aspects of the sound, comfort, build quality etc but openness really is not a strong selling point to me, simply because surely it can't be equal? (??)

 

It's a fit for purpose thing more than summit-fi thing to me. Yes closed headphone may never be summit-fi due to physics (For now?), but presented with no other alternatives the argument is void. One day perhaps there will be a closed, MDR-R10 equivalent sounding headphone invented that is summit-fi and can match it with all the open headphones on the market, and that I could wear on the go every day (not something one can do with $6000 headphones), but until then I am content with what is currently on offer: A reasonably good sounding headphones for a very good price (for performance) bracket.

 

For those on the fence, I say why not buy one of each HE500 and Alpha Dogs and rest easy? HE500 for quiet night in, Alpha Dogs for all other times? Fit for purpose.

 

Who knows, perhaps the Alpha Dogs are part way there already to an open headphone? I'll find out in 4-5 weeks I suppose...

post #3948 of 7994
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Originally Posted by Lillee View Post
 

For those on the fence, I say why not buy one of each HE500 and Alpha Dogs and rest easy? HE500 for quiet night in, Alpha Dogs for all other times? Fit for purpose.

 

 

lmao.  You think like me.  If I need a closed pair now.  It will be the AD but that's not a requirement or necessity for me at this point so I am still looking at options.  Price is not a factor in this current search but yes, who wouldn't love a bargain, right?

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Where tour pair of ADs right now?
post #3950 of 7994
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Where tour pair of ADs right now?

 

At the PO waiting to be picked up by me. I'll get them after classes tomorrow.

post #3951 of 7994
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Originally Posted by Greed View Post
 

 

I think Ultrasone is a hit or miss to most, especially after some of the fiascos that have occurred in the past. Their headphones look the part, but are anything but value or performance (notice I didn't put these together). They price their headphones at a competitive level but they simply don't play in the same area code as other TOTL headphones closed or open. I think they aim to change that with the new Ed. 12 but honestly I think a lot of people are just stuck with a bad taste in their mouths after being burned too many times hoping that the performance matches the price. 

 

That being said, I would attribute the lack of comparison to such Ultrasone headphones as being unpopular and not many owners willing to do such a comparison. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by ssrock64 View Post
 

I've seen lots of good things about the Sig Pro; are they comparable to TOTL? I haven't had the pleasure of hearing one for myself yet.

 

I'm still waiting to pull the AD trigger, and I'm not sure whether to upgrade or buy new. I want to wait time to go down, since I've been using my MD V2 as a portable lately and that's the one I'm going to upgrade (I want to keep my 3.2 for office listening).


I agree with Ultrasone being hit or miss.  I experienced physical pain when I auditioned the PRO900.  Ironically, more of their misses seem to be TOTL.  However, they really seem to have gotten it right with the Signature line which I liken to the Howard Stern of headphones- unless you have spent some time listening to them, you may have a negative predisposition.  I own the Sig DJ and was pleasantly surprised how well they compared at a recent headphone meet, at least to my ears.  I am looking for something more neutral to complement them that offers the high level of detail retrieval, air and smooth treble (yes, I said Ultrasone and smooth treble in the same sentence) and prefer not to spend $1,200 for the Sig PRO which is where the Alpha Dog comes in.

post #3952 of 7994
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Originally Posted by olegausany View Post

Where tour pair of ADs right now?

 

At the PO waiting to be picked up by me. I'll get them after classes tomorrow.

Nice to know I hope you going to enjoy them
post #3953 of 7994
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post

Taken into context the your bolded statement, it could be true that the AD will easier to drive and thus more enjoyable from a portable rig.  Put both on a proper amp that has ample of power to drive them and compare.  That would be a different story, IMO...
Well, I heard each with it's own uniquely optimized and ample power setup.
Out of the Hifi line up, to me, the HE-6 most, left me with that excellent refined polished sound impression that the Alpha did also convey in Mrspeakers tube setup..
Probably because the he-6 was most neutral to me of the hifiman line
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Originally Posted by Lillee View Post

For those on the fence, I say why not buy one of each HE500 and Alpha Dogs and rest easy? HE500 for quiet night in, Alpha Dogs for all other times? Fit for purpose.
Why! Because me plus (only?) one other said otherwise! lol just kidding...
The he-500 is good no doubt...
BUT...Give me the Alpha and the HE-6, THEN we come "closer" to a "best of" both "closed and open" worlds lol
Personally I rather have the Apha & hd800 for a larger difference in tonality as well smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by Maxx134 - 11/14/13 at 7:17pm
post #3954 of 7994
We have to remember that those on the fence mostly only have $700 to spend, so getting both isn't feasible. If they had $1400, they'd be more likely to get an HD800 or a PS1K.
post #3955 of 7994
At $1400, you're looking at electrostatic headphone pricing. Then again, I got my system for ~$650 new and it comes with the electrostat amp.

Just throwing out some ideas here. tongue.gif
post #3956 of 7994
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

At $1400, you're looking at electrostatic headphone pricing. Then again, I got my system for ~$650 new and it comes with the electrostat amp.

Just throwing out some ideas here. tongue.gif

 

 

I was about to say, not all of us are that lucky! $1400 may get you the headphones, but then what? haha an expensive ornament


Edited by Lillee - 11/14/13 at 7:55pm
post #3957 of 7994
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

At $1400, you're looking at electrostatic headphone pricing. Then again, I got my system for ~$650 new and it comes with the electrostat amp.

Just throwing out some ideas here. tongue.gif

Seriously... blink.gif
post #3958 of 7994
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Originally Posted by Greed View Post

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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

At $1400, you're looking at electrostatic headphone pricing. Then again, I got my system for ~$650 new and it comes with the electrostat amp.

Just throwing out some ideas here. tongue.gif

Seriously... blink.gif
Seriously.
And that's with the typically more expensive USA pricing.

^ they come with both the electrostatic earspeaker and the electrostatic amplifier
post #3959 of 7994
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

Seriously.
And that's with the typically more expensive USA pricing.

^ they come with both the electrostatic earspeaker and the electrostatic amplifier

Bah, those aren't S.T.A.X. cool.gif
post #3960 of 7994
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post


Seriously.
And that's with the typically more expensive USA pricing.

^ they come with both the electrostatic earspeaker and the electrostatic amplifier

 

 

That's cheap! This is what they're worth in Australia:

 

Stax SRS-3170 System SRM-323S Driver with SR-307 Classic [STAXSRS3170]  $2,299.00
STAX SRS-4170 Signature System SR-407 with SRM-006tS Vacuum Tube [STAXSRS4170]  $3,299.00

Edited by Lillee - 11/14/13 at 8:15pm
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