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post #3916 of 8745
Maybe compete with other closed cans like the new fostex600 , yet those are going for a different signature..
post #3917 of 8745
There is this thread:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/524510/he-6-vs-lcd-2-comparison-thread

I only have AD and I don't know how LCD-2 or HE-6 sounds. I was wondering how AD compares to them. Anyone?
post #3918 of 8745
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post


Tbh, just because of the closed factor alone, it cannot compete with flagships.

Not necessarily, the Sony MDR-R10 disproves that, but it is true more often than not.

post #3919 of 8745
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Originally Posted by koolas View Post

There is this thread:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/524510/he-6-vs-lcd-2-comparison-thread

I only have AD and I don't know how LCD-2 or HE-6 sounds. I was wondering how AD compares to them. Anyone?

 

In fairness, that thread is three years old and has older revisions of the lcd2. Not sure how current the information is. 

post #3920 of 8745
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In fairness, that thread is three years old and has older revisions of the lcd2. Not sure how current the information is. 

Not to mention not many people knew about HE6's true scaling potential back then either.

post #3921 of 8745

^^ And many still don't TBH. I personally was let down after owning the he-4 until I finally tried it on a speaker amp. :eek:

post #3922 of 8745
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Originally Posted by emertxe View Post
 

There will be many Alpha Dogs around it seems... Better to wait until next year when they start hitting the for sale forum here in significant numbers. I am thinking about getting one for myself that way as well but still not sure whether I really need a closed back headphone, or not.

 

Btw - is there any review against HE-500? Heard the Hifimans several days ago and despite their brilliant FR and more forgiving nature, they quite failed to perform against my HD800.

I did compare the Apha Dog and HE 500 at the NY meet (I'm Ned, BTW, mentioned in the NY meet thread), an easy comparison since the Mr. Speakers and HiFiman tables were right next to each other.  OTOH, listening in a meet is less that ideal because of the noise level, which I think allows a closed headphone to show better.  That said, for me, I felt the Alpha Dog was more enjoyable than the HE 500, listening to the same songs through the same portable rig to eliminate the effect of different sources and amps on the comparison (I used my portable rig consisting of an iPod Classic 160gb using ALAC, CLAS -db dac, and ALO Rx MK3 B+ amp.) 

 

In my brief listening, I felt the Alpha Dogs were more dynamic, faster and more balanced, with more "presence" to the music.  When I first gave them a listen, I immediately liked them more than the HE500, and said so to Dan Clark. I then asked him not to mention it to the guy at the HiFiman table, who was a very nice and helpful person and who spent some time with me with the HE500.  

 

But, I will say that was after a very brief listen covering just a portion of two songs.  What the result would be in a quiet environment over a more extended listening session is hard to say.

 

Immediately after I bought the Alpha Dogs and am now awaiting delivery (only 6 more weeks!)

post #3923 of 8745

It will be worth the wait. They are incredible bargains at their price point. But...you already know this. :atsmile:

 

Congrats...

post #3924 of 8745

Thank you very much to all for opinions... Could someone tell me something about bass on both? Which ones is tighter, better defined (on normal quality headphone amplifier, not going to use speaker or vintage amps)?

 

I liked the bass of HE-400 very much (very LCD-2-like) while HE-500's bass was rather wooly (with both types of pads)... Very enjoyable but not reference enough. HD800 offered significantly tighter and a bit more textured bass in comparison to the HE-500.

 

Basically, I found the HE-500 to be extremely good FR-wise... Even comfort was nice, much better than with Audezes (less clamp since the headband is wider). But the technical level of performance just couldnt match HD800 enough to justify buying the Hifimans.

 

Do the Alpha Dogs clamp much? (weight is alright but I hate clamping force - HD600, HD650, LCD-2 or even Q701/K712 Pro clamped too much to my liking)

post #3925 of 8745
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Originally Posted by emertxe View Post
 

Thank you very much to all for opinions... Could someone tell me something about bass on both? Which ones is tighter, better defined (on normal quality headphone amplifier, not going to use speaker or vintage amps)?

 

I liked the bass of HE-400 very much (very LCD-2-like) while HE-500's bass was rather wooly (with both types of pads)... Very enjoyable but not reference enough. HD800 offered significantly tighter and a bit more textured bass in comparison to the HE-500.

 

Basically, I found the HE-500 to be extremely good FR-wise... Even comfort was nice, much better than with Audezes (less clamp since the headband is wider). But the technical level of performance just couldnt match HD800 enough to justify buying the Hifimans.

 

Do the Alpha Dogs clamp much? (weight is alright but I hate clamping force - HD600, HD650, LCD-2 or even Q701/K712 Pro clamped too much to my liking)

Wat. Did it not hit you that the HE-500 is only $700 compared to the price of the HD800?...

And yes, they clamp a lot, however the soft pads mostly make up for it.

post #3926 of 8745
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Originally Posted by emertxe View Post
 

Do the Alpha Dogs clamp much? (weight is alright but I hate clamping force - HD600, HD650, LCD-2 or even Q701/K712 Pro clamped too much to my liking)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHtaO5zRAAE#t=0

The clamp force is apparently pretty easily adjusted

post #3927 of 8745
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post
 

Wat. Did it not hit you that the HE-500 is only $700 compared to the price of the HD800?...

And yes, they clamp a lot, however the soft pads mostly make up for it.

 

Hifiman HE-500 cost over 900USD in Europe... While I paid only 1200USD for my HD800s (a year ago, prices were different here).

post #3928 of 8745
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Originally Posted by emertxe View Post
 

 

Hifiman HE-500 cost over 900USD in Europe... While I paid only 1200USD for my HD800s (a year ago, prices were different here).


Ah ok, that makes sense. Yeah, at that point I'd begin to consider other options as well.

post #3929 of 8745
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post
 


Ah ok, that makes sense. Yeah, at that point I'd begin to consider other options as well.

 

I therefore consider Alpha Dogs as they are closed-back... On the other hand, as I said, HE-500 were very pleasing with their frequency response balance and I would definitely prefer them over LCD-2s :) But yeah, most probably going to look elsewhere.

post #3930 of 8745
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Originally Posted by SovietShaman View Post
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHtaO5zRAAE#t=0

The clamp force is apparently pretty easily adjusted

 

Yes it is. I don't find that the AD has "vice like" clamp under any circumstances. You'll want some clamp to maintain the seal though.

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