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Yeah, Dan is kindly busy right now with his long schedule so I think we should not bother him about the color scheme anymore. If the ear cups were metal we can swap whatever metal skins that we like such as V-Moda but these are different.

 

I am thinking of decreasing the weight of the cables. Do you think MoonAudio aftermarket cables such as Jude ordered could decrease the weight a bit or just other aftermarket  cable brands ? I mean the original cable with Alpha Dog is kindly thick. Thanks.


Edited by LoveKnight - 11/3/13 at 7:16pm
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So. First impressions from the alpha dog.
Sounds wide soundstage for a closed back, but not open sounding in any way. Treble sounds "dull" as some others might state as well. Its bass might not be considered ideal for all genres, as it lacks the impact that I personally like from the he-500. The midrange sounds good and linear, but might have an overall "off" timbre IMO. It just doesn't live up to the hype from my experience.
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Yeah, Dan is kindly busy right now with his long schedule so I think we should not bother him about the color scheme anymore. If the ear cups were metal we can swap whatever metal skins that we like such as V-Moda but these are different.

 

I am thinking of decreasing the weight of the cables. Do you think MoonAudio aftermarket cables such as Jude ordered could decrease the weight a bit or just other aftermarket  cable brands ? I mean the original cable with Alpha Dog is kindly thick. Thanks.

Moon Audio cables are usually thick ( I currently own for HD650 and HD700) but Q-Audio are thin and light (I currently own for HD800)

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I'm using the Q-audio cable.  Very light, negligible weight.  Silk sheath.  The stock cable doesn't bother me too much.  One advantage I've found over the stock cable is that when I turn my head 90 degrees with the Q cable I don't lose a channel.  Anybody else experience this with the stock cable?

 

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I am thinking of decreasing the weight of the cables. Do you think MoonAudio aftermarket cables such as Jude ordered could decrease the weight a bit or just other aftermarket  cable brands ? I mean the original cable with Alpha Dog is kindly thick. Thanks.

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If you are experiencing this with the stock cable let me know, we can easily replace it.  This should *never* happen.

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Thanks Dan,  I will try to reproduce this issue tomorrow and if it continues I'll shoot you an email.  

 

 

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If you are experiencing this with the stock cable let me know, we can easily replace it.  This should *never* happen.

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Still no he-500 vs AD full comparison.... After all of this time!!!!

 

So many people saying it is better than the he-500 and now the same birds aren't chirping. Not too many full reviews either.

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Couldn't reproduce it.  Stock cable running perfectly now.  

 

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If you are experiencing this with the stock cable let me know, we can easily replace it.  This should *never* happen.

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The Audio Club of UW gave the Alpha Dog a good run-through today against a lot of different headphones. 

The Alpha Dogs and ATH-W3000ANV are two of the most beautiful headphones I've ever seen:

 

And we were able to listen to a modified HE-500 with jergpad pleathers (sort of) and the grills both in place with the cloth removed and with the grills completely off.

 

I can say I thought the Alpha Dog's treble was a bit smoother but also a bit more shelved. The HE-500s still had a bit of harshness that wasn't present on the Alphas.

The midrange was a bit more full on the Alpha Dog by a tad, and again sounded a bit smoother.

The bass on the Alpha Dog was definitely more contained than the HE-500. The Alpha is more of a subtle rumble, while the HE-500 has more of the slam, which I think I prefer.

The soundstage is bigger on the HE-500, no question.

 

I would struggle to say which one is better, but I think it would be like comparing apples to oranges since it's closed back versus open back. I would honestly buy the Alpha Dog, but that's because I want a good closed back headphone that I can use when using open backs wouldn't be ideal. But, I also liked the sound of the HE-500 a lot. Lots more than the HE-400 I had earlier this year.


Edited by mechgamer123 - 11/3/13 at 8:37pm
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Still no he-500 vs AD full comparison.... After all of this time!!!!

 

So many people saying it is better than the he-500 and now the same birds aren't chirping. Not too many full reviews either.


I think I addressed this, but to summarize, the sort of people who - on impulse - order a new headphone as soon as it is released, is not necessarily the same sort of person who does full, methodical reviews.

 

It's also worth noting that - in general - most people are "lurkers", and so while many people who ordered the Alpha Dogs early, knew about it because they read head-fi, they might not be the sort of person who posts at all...


Edited by kstuart - 11/3/13 at 8:43pm
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Still no he-500 vs AD full comparison.... After all of this time!!!!

 

So many people saying it is better than the he-500 and now the same birds aren't chirping. Not too many full reviews either.

 

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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post

So. First impressions from the alpha dog.
Sounds wide soundstage for a closed back, but not open sounding in any way. Treble sounds "dull" as some others might state as well. Its bass might not be considered ideal for all genres, as it lacks the impact that I personally like from the he-500. The midrange sounds good and linear, but might have an overall "off" timbre IMO. It just doesn't live up to the hype from my experience.

 

At least to my ears, the Alpha Dog has more body in the midrange as a whole, being somewhat thick, similar to what I recall from the LCD-2. The bass on the Alpha Dog also seemed a bit looser compared to the HE-500 to me, but the Alpha Dog had more rumble compared to the HE-500's punch. The treble of the HE-500 was also more present compared to the Alpha Dog but also has a peak that made cymbals sound tizzy. As a whole, the Alpha Dog sounds smoother than the HE-500, but the HE-500 sounds more detailed to me, bringing out more subtle things from music.

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 smooth Sound reproduction having no irritating qualities; free from HF peaks, easy and relaxing to listen to. Effortless. Not necessarily a positive system attribute if accompanied by a slow, uninvolving character.

 

As for soundstage, the Alpha Dog's soundstage was pretty spacious, I think deeper than wide compared to the more rounded-sounding HE-500 and the instrument separation wasn't as good. Imaging for both headphones was good, but the more natural-sounding soundstage of the HE-500 was more enjoyable to listen to for that aspect.

 

As for overall comfort, the HE-500 felt lighter on my head, but the seal on both the velour and leather pads wasn't nearly as good as with the Alpha Dog. The HE-500's clamping force was also less than that of the Alpha Dog, so I tended to be more cautious about moving around with the HE-500 (ignoring the fact that the HE-500 had the grills taken off).

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I don't have the HE-500 anymore so I couldn't do a proper review.  Plus it was a different DAC/amp configuration back when I had the HE-500.  However, if I am to rely on memory just for a couple statements then that's fine.  Even though the HE-500 was an open headphone I don't feel the AD is that far off from the HE-500 in regards to soundstage.  Imaging and instrument separation goes to the AD.  I always felt the HE-500s biggest weaknesses were imaging and soundstage depth.  The HE-500's treble is more prominent and sparkly than the AD.  Impact and slam goes to the HE-500.  The speed of the HE-500 driver may be better suited for faster genres of music.  I liked the HE-500 a lot but it can be fatiguing after a while.  The presentation is less smooth than the AD.  When choosing the AD I would not consider it as competition for the HE-500.  I picked the AD as an alternative to my previous TH-600 which I enjoyed but missed the palpable mids of planars.  I primarily use planars with tube amps and that probably helps bring some added warmth and body to the AD.  I will be holding onto my ADs for quite some time.  Whether or not I add another open headphone is up for grabs.          

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

Still no he-500 vs AD full comparison.... After all of this time!!!!

 

So many people saying it is better than the he-500 and now the same birds aren't chirping. Not too many full reviews either.

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Good point on the automotive paint. Wonder how much it'd cost, anyone care to get a quote? smily_headphones1.gif bumps up the overall cost thoigh, maybe by a fair bit.
I don't see why mrspeakers couldn't set up a couple more paint options on the website & in the production line though..down the track a bit of course.
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Pretty accurate
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Keep in mind that the above impressions by Miceblue and Mechgamer are off of the HE-500 on the O2, something that's considered not amped fully compared to speaker taps on something such as the Emotiva. Also, I absolutely loved those AudioTechnicas for a closed back headphone. That, the STAX and the AKG were my favorites, along with my HE-500 of course.


Edited by Nimzerz - 11/3/13 at 10:00pm
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