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Originally Posted by sunneebear View Post


That's the other thread. This is the Emotiva Mini-X thread.

thanks!  I knew I was lost.

 

But seriously folks, there are some heavy-weight headphone  enthusiasts weighing in on this thread, and I really do appreciate it.  While I've been here too long to truly be a noob, it is exciting to see how much interest the AD's are generating, while at the same time people who have or have heard them are being very, very cautious.

 

I have a feeling that the overall community does not know what to make of these headphones.  They don't really have direct competition, as there is no other closed-back planar anywhere near their price range, and it seems as if the intent was a neutral character without a 'house-sound' like the Audeze.

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One last post on the subject, the ill back off, I promise. I understand what you are after. I am an engineer, and typically look for the same type of thing you hope to find in the FR graphs. I've found that with headphones, FR graphs miss a whole bunch of the story for me. I'm generally an objectivist, and yet whether or not I like a headphone is still very subjective, regardless of FR plots. I'll still study any plots that come out, though. I just won't base a purchase decision on them.

Ok, backing off now...

In general unless the frequency plot is way off I do not find much correlation with the sound that I am hearing. I find better correlation with the headphone cumulative Spectral Decay once I learn how to interpreted it. backing off now...

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Originally Posted by aamefford View Post

Yeah, kind of impolite, sorry about that. More "unbiased" May surface. More reliable? I doubt it. I'm pretty sure Tyll, Purrin and Dan could set their measurement setups up right next to each other, hand the same headphone off from one to the other after making their best measurements, and get 3 significantly different results.

That's my long winded opinion that lead to my glib and impolite post. Don't get me wrong, I like colored graphs, I just can't hear them.

If any single measurement rig were to measure headphones I know well, then measure something new, that might be more informative. That said, when reviewing graphs and then listening, I still don't always hear what I see.

+1.  I could not have said it any better.  Thx.

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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post
 

I just heard the Alpha Dogs along with several summit-fi headphones for the first time at the Philly headphone meet and all I can say to Dan is BRAVO! 

 

Not only did I feel the Alpha Dogs held their own against some VERY expensive headphones, I actually preferred their sound to some and am reluctant to even name models for fear of losing credibility.  I love the finish on the cups and thought the pads are incredibly comfortable.  In deference to some of the other headphones, they are open and there was a fair amount of noise as the meet was in a large, open room.  Regardless, I consider the Alpha Dog to be the best headphone value I heard at the meet.

You and I share similar tastes in sound signature, so coming from you this is big .....

 

Looks like I'll be making the jump to the AD's myself at some point ....

 

My wallet says thanks for nothing man ... LOL

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Originally Posted by martybm5 View Post
 

You and I share similar tastes in sound signature, so coming from you this is big .....

 

Looks like I'll be making the jump to the AD's myself at some point ....

 

My wallet says thanks for nothing man ... LOL


My pleasure.  As my taste skews toward a beefier low end, please keep in mind I consider the Alpha Dog as a complement to my Ultrasone Sig DJ when I want a more balanced sound rather than a replacement for them.

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Should hopefully have my Alpha's tomorrow, sadly my Mad Dogs will be going today, so I wont be able to do an a/b comparison.

 

I will pop up some impressions also when I have a chance to do some listening.

 

Scott

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 there are some heavy-weight headphone enthusiasts weighing in on this thread

Way to call everyone here fat....

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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post
 

Way to call everyone here fat....

 

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Originally Posted by aamefford View Post

Yeah, kind of impolite, sorry about that. More "unbiased" May surface. More reliable? I doubt it. I'm pretty sure Tyll, Purrin and Dan could set their measurement setups up right next to each other, hand the same headphone off from one to the other after making their best measurements, and get 3 significantly different results.

 

Yes. But that's not such a big problem, as long as they're each getting results that are coherent with their measurements of other headphones. It allows us to get an idea of a headphone we don't know using headphones we do know as reference.

 

[Edit:] Ah, yes, emertxe already made that point:

 

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Originally Posted by emertxe View Post
 

 

I just need changstar, headroom or innerfidelity to measure them... Then, I can compare their FR graph with many other headphones I have heard and find out whether I should be interested in Alpha Dog, or not. End of story. :L3000: 

 

Edited by Sinocelt - 10/27/13 at 6:45pm
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Originally Posted by uelover View Post


Do we have a new dog convert here? cool.gif

 

Not really. I've been interested in the Mad Dogs since Oct '12 when Dimitri/Musica Acoustics brought a pair back from the states. Then the AD got announced and I actually asked him to bring a pair back from Canjam which he did but somehow got lost (FedEx). I had a good listen to them at the show this past weekend and I really do like them. Someone here said (Craig??) that they produce sound that's equivalent to headphones in the 4-digit dollar range and I fully agree.

 

What got to me about the ADs aren't so much of the neutralness or staging which been talked to so much about (therefore I was expecting those already), but it was the finesse presentation of the signature across board the FR. Very fine micro detail which seems to be my new focus in signatures.

 

Sadly I'm a lazy chap and admittedly am too impatient to order one for a 6 week wait. I had a nice long chat with Dan last night and looks like he's flat out busy in churning these out as fast as he can but not sacrificing quality. Truly appreciate the dedication and attention he has to ensure he maintains good QC of his 3D printers.

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Day 2 with the Alpha Dog's.................and more of the same - being impressed.  I've been running them out of my Pioneer Spec rack system today and comparing them A/B style to my D7000's.  They DO sound more open than the Denon, which is considered to many and myself as a "partially open" closed headphone.  So to Jude's comments, I can see where he's coming from now.  Not a truly open headphone like my Fidelio X1's were but I'd say midway between them and my Denon's. 

Vinyl - put on my original copy of Steely Dan Aja - the title track is one of my favorites of all time and a good percussion test (*not only bass but just all the different drums used in the solo by Steve Gadd ).  Well................it did it again.  Handled all I could throw at it (adjusted the sub bass and mid bass on the Spec 1 pre), played with the EQ a bit, turned it up a bit louder than usual................very impressive.  For Aja I went head to head with my newly re-cupped D2000's (Cocobolo Rosewood from Martin Custom Audio) and though the Denon's were crisper and deeper on the kick drum in the solo, the voices and imaging/soundstage went to Alphie.  If you know the song, you know of the drum solos I am referring to.  Makes you want to drum along with him.  Epic.  

Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here CD - Welcome to the Machine is another of those songs that was a joy to hear through the Alpha's.  About 6 minutes into track 1 you get this big rumble buildup....................big rumble it was.  Alpha's do good with orchestral music that Floyd is famous for................and just about everything I've heard today! 

So am I still a convert?  YES................they sound great.  Brighter than my Denon's, better mids (voices are amazing with these) and still the bass holds it's own. 

The weight is a bit of a concern still but as someone said, as long as I'm in my recliner that's a non-issue.  That and the short stand are the only negatives and I have a couple of Brainwavz stands for that................



Last installment from me as they are being shipped on to the next lucky guy on the traveling audition show tomorrow.

Ran them out of my portable setup, consisting of an iPod Classic feeding an Arrow 3G. Did this for a couple of reasons. First was simply to compare to the vintage amp sound, and more importantly to me whether they could satisfy my basshead leanings without a monster vintage amp driving it. They do.

No question, though I wouldn't consider using them as my portable phone, they sound great and do not lack bass response at all. Remember my early March Mad Dogs out of an E-11 and ZO completely underwhelmed me. So dug out my E-11, put it on high gain and bass on level 2 and still sounded adequate. Not great but not disappointing. Not sure what's at play here since March but something in the overall chassis tuning meets my needs.

Happy to say I'm going to be considering adding this to the stable in the near future. Glad there's a backlog at the moment.
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Happy to say I'm going to be considering adding this to the stable in the near future. Glad there's a backlog at the moment.

 

Totally understandable.  Since the announcement I've saved $300 for the upgrade, then spent it.  Saved another $300 and chipped a tooth so that's gone too.  Now saving again.

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I wonder how many units Dan produces per day, and how many orders have been made, for both the MD and AD?

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Sorry if that was posted already, but what is the rough ETA on starting upgrades for MD owners, I realize how busy is everything now, just need an idea on what to expect before trying something else out.
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Start/mid November I thought
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