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Originally Posted by sunneebear View Post

8:00 is comfortable.  9:00 is moderately loud with the Mini-X.  IMO don't bother with the resistors unless your amp is 100+ watts.  Even at 100w that I've used to drive the HE6 I did not like resistor because you can hear the change in sound.  Expensive audio grade and boutique resistor also color the sound.
Thanks again. Your input has been very helpful in my decision to go the mini x route. It's much appreciated.
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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post
 

 

What about the AD did you prefer over the Abyss? I haven't heard either yet, simply asking out of curiosity. And I can fully understand, when taking price into account, going with an AD over Abyss. Diminishing returns and all that. And like you said, it's hard to compare against open cans in a meet setting.

 

 

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I've heard both, here's my take:
Abyss - $5k
AD - $600
Abyss - Frankenstein traction halo
AD - Retro punk cool
Abyss - hey! Didja hear that? How about that?
AD - sit back, relax, have a listen. You'll hear everything, and enjoy the ride.

The abyss is a very good, excellent, capable, revealing headphone, and yet I don't want one. It is a freakish curiosity to me. The AD on the other hand is my next acquisition.

This is of course subject to IMHO, ymmv, etc.

 

 

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I think that is a subjective call. Everything else aside, if they were the same price, I would pick the abyss any day over the AD.

 

 

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AD cost $5000 or Abyss cost $600.  Either way the Abyss would win...but there's no way in hell they would ever be the same price.  


I thought I might be stirring the pot with a comparison that sounds absurd, even to me.  Does the Abyss have higher resolution and a bigger soundstage?  Of course.  However, I just felt there was something unnatural about the highs.  In the end, my conclusion is based on which headphone I find to be a more enjoyable listen.  The Alpha Dog has a pleasing tone across the range and is IMO much better looking and more comfortable.  The only headphones I heard at the meet I would place ahead of the Alpha Dogs would be a modded Denon D7000, Stax 009 and the entire Audeze line, all of which are higher cost.  I thought some of the Hifiman were comparable.   So I suppose a less controversial statement would be to reiterate that I consider the Alpha Dogs the best value at the meet.

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I thought I might be stirring the pot with a comparison that sounds absurd, even to me.  Does the Abyss have higher resolution and a bigger soundstage?  Of course.  However, I just felt there was something unnatural about the highs.  In the end, my conclusion is based on which headphone I find to be a more enjoyable listen.  The Alpha Dog has a pleasing tone across the range and is IMO much better looking and more comfortable.  The only headphones I heard at the meet I would place ahead of the Alpha Dogs would be a modded Denon D7000, Stax 009 and the entire Audeze line, all of which are higher cost.  I thought some of the Hifiman were comparable.   So I suppose a less controversial statement would be to reiterate that I consider the Alpha Dogs the best value at the meet.

Indeed most headphones don't nail a very basic thing - a natural frequency response. Something is always off.

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Talking about natural frequency response, are there any reliable measurements of Alpha Dog available? Like innerfidelity or changstar... Thanks!

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Can anyone share their experiences/sonic changes adjusting the bass on the Alpha Dogs?

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Who has the tour demo unit right now? I'm still very excited to hear it and just curious how much longer i need to wait.

post #3427 of 7687
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

Indeed most headphones don't nail a very basic thing - a natural frequency response. Something is always off.

But something is always off with every pair of headphones, because there is no model of headphones that sounds exactly like the recording.

 

Each headphones model is good for some things and not so good for others.

 

If you look in the sig files, you will often see - for people who have the $$ - both the HD800 and the LCD-3.  If either of those was so good, why does everyone want both ?   Because neither one is great on every type of music.

 

Generally the phrase " the ____ headphones totally destroy the ____ headphones " is equivalent to " I only have three tracks in my music collection ".

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Originally Posted by emertxe View Post
 

Talking about natural frequency response, are there any reliable measurements of Alpha Dog available? Like innerfidelity or changstar... Thanks!

There is no such thing as "reliable measurements".  It's an Internet Myth.   It's good for page hits, though.

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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post
 

Can anyone share their experiences/sonic changes adjusting the bass on the Alpha Dogs?

Someone did earlier in the thread, about two weeks ago IIRC.

 

The summary was that it does not work very well for adjusting the bass to "taste", and my reaction to the user's experience was that Dan should probably have epoxied the screw after the factory adjustment.

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Originally Posted by jasonb View Post

Who has the tour demo unit right now? I'm still very excited to hear it and just curious how much longer i need to wait.

I've got it, shipping out on Monday.
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I've got it, shipping out on Monday.

Wow, being that I'm second to last on the list, at this rate I guess I won't see it till at least around thanksgiving. Good to know at least...

post #3432 of 7687
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post

Can anyone share their experiences/sonic changes adjusting the bass on the Alpha Dogs?

I never tried the adjustment as I liked it just as it was stock. Loved it in fact.
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Originally Posted by kstuart View Post
 

There is no such thing as "reliable measurements".  It's an Internet Myth.   It's good for page hits, though.

 

:rolleyes:

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Dan posted measurements of the alpha dogs earlier in the thread, and some users aligned them with his earlier mad and lcd-2 measurements. On my phone so Itd be a pain for me to find them, but they're there. Unless you don't consider those reliable. :P
Edited by vaed - 10/27/13 at 9:47am
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Originally Posted by vaed View Post

Dan posted measurements of the alpha dogs earlier in the thread, and some users aligned them with his earlier mad and lcd-2 measurements. On my phone so Itd be a pain for me to find them, but they're there. Unless you don't consider those reliable. :P

 

Thanks but I am really looking for something more reliable and unbiased...

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