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Well, maybe just one- Even if the Alpha Dog and the Abyss were the same price, I would still choose the Alpha Dog.


Edited by Craigster75 - 10/26/13 at 4:01pm
post #3407 of 7833
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Well, maybe just one- Even if the Alpha Dog and the Abyss were the same price, I would still choose the Alpha Dog.

 

What about the AD did you prefer over the Abyss? I haven't heard either yet, simply asking out of curiosity. And I can fully understand, when taking price into account, going with an AD over Abyss. Diminishing returns and all that. And like you said, it's hard to compare against open cans in a meet setting.

post #3408 of 7833
Not to mention don't you have to spend 3 days getting the fit right on the abyss?
post #3409 of 7833
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What about the AD did you prefer over the Abyss? I haven't heard either yet, simply asking out of curiosity. And I can fully understand, when taking price into account, going with an AD over Abyss. Diminishing returns and all that. And like you said, it's hard to compare against open cans in a meet setting.
I've heard both, here's my take:
Abyss - $5k
AD - $600
Abyss - Frankenstein traction halo
AD - Retro punk cool
Abyss - hey! Didja hear that? How about that?
AD - sit back, relax, have a listen. You'll hear everything, and enjoy the ride.

The abyss is a very good, excellent, capable, revealing headphone, and yet I don't want one. It is a freakish curiosity to me. The AD on the other hand is my next acquisition.

This is of course subject to IMHO, ymmv, etc.
post #3410 of 7833
Plus Abyss are so ugly and heavy
post #3411 of 7833
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Not only did I feel the Alpha Dogs held their own against some VERY expensive headphones, I actually preferred their sound to some and am reluctant to even name models for fear of losing credibility.
I saw many people post similar responses after CanJam, as did I. It's just honest feedback, we could all use more of it beerchug.gif
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Well, I think my critical, pay-attention to every little detail period with the AD's has come to an end.

 

I just received the King Crimson DVD-A of "Islands".  I have not listened to this album, on headphones, in about 33 years.  Sure, I had the crappy CD version, but it  was definitely not a headphone-worthy version. Now, Islands is a strange album, and one of the least popular of the early Crim catalogue. But when I was 17 I listened to it with the same frequency that the rest of my peers listened to Dark Side of the Moon.  Back then it was a Garrard turntable, Sansui receiver and Sennheiser HD414's or AKG 240's. Nowadays it's all modern equipment...

 

Man, I totally forgot I was trying to pay attention to the headphones.  That was the same experience I think I had back then, just mesmerized by the weird, yet somehow coherent soundscapes from that album.

 

That's why I spend money on this hobby.  Now it's on to 'Red', to hear how they handle the heavy stuff.

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Well, maybe just one- Even if the Alpha Dog and the Abyss were the same price, I would still choose the Alpha Dog.
I think that is a subjective call. Everything else aside, if they were the same price, I would pick the abyss any day over the AD.
Edited by koiloco - 10/26/13 at 6:04pm
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I think that is a subjective call. Everything else aside, if they were the same price, I would pick the abyss any day over the AD.

 

AD cost $5000 or Abyss cost $600.  Either way the Abyss would win...but there's no way in hell they would ever be the same price.  

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You are the second request so I hope it's OK to be a little off topic.













Parts are simple.  Project box, XLR 4 pin, 4PDT switch, speaker terminal and some speaker wire.  

Box can be anything, another member said he will make a wood box which I think is a great idea.  

Any kind of connectors can be in the back.  Most commend would be binding posts.  I chose a pig tail input because the box is right next to my amp and I don't want any unnecessary extra connection in the path.  Not even banana plugs for the pig tail.  Reference listening is with the headphones.  The speaker output however is a afterthought for the computer.  No critical listening so I used a cheap speaker terminal.  I have to say though it sounds pretty damn good.

The switch is a 4PDT like this:


Amplifier out goes to the middle row of contacts.  Out to the headphones and speakers can either be top or bottom row which ever you like.  Just remember when the switch points up it contacts the bottom row and vice versa.

One more question, how much volume play do you get on the mini x with the mad/alpha dogs? Should some resistors be thrown in there?
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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

What about the AD did you prefer over the Abyss? I haven't heard either yet, simply asking out of curiosity. And I can fully understand, when taking price into account, going with an AD over Abyss. Diminishing returns and all that. And like you said, it's hard to compare against open cans in a meet setting.
I've heard both, here's my take:
Abyss - $5k
AD - $600
Abyss - Frankenstein traction halo
AD - Retro punk cool
Abyss - hey! Didja hear that? How about that?
AD - sit back, relax, have a listen. You'll hear everything, and enjoy the ride.

The abyss is a very good, excellent, capable, revealing headphone, and yet I don't want one. It is a freakish curiosity to me. The AD on the other hand is my next acquisition.

This is of course subject to IMHO, ymmv, etc.

I dunno, I've read a lot about the Abyss being...*puts on glasses* pretty Abyssmal. Yeah...

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One more question, how much volume play do you get on the mini x with the mad/alpha dogs? Should some resistors be thrown in there?

 

8:00 is comfortable.  9:00 is moderately loud with the Mini-X.  IMO don't bother with the resistors unless your amp is 100+ watts.  Even at 100w that I've used to drive the HE6 I did not like resistor because you can hear the change in sound.  Expensive audio grade and boutique resistor also color the sound.

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One more thing:  I've been listening to the AD's and putting them up against the Hifiman HE-5LE's.  My original intent was to keep one, sell the other.

 

But after two weeks of some of the most enjoyable HP listening I've ever had, they're both staying put.  It was not a slam-dunk anyway I looked at it.  the AD's are still a closed can, and lack the 'air' and dramatic impact of the 5LE's, especially on percussion.  On the other hand, they are truly a neutral can, and seem to add and subtract nothing.  There is more detail on the harmonic content of the AD's, where the big bass response of the 5LE's tends to overshadow detail.

 

But seriously, these are both fantastic headphones, and I can afford to keep them both.  I actually feel pretty lucky to be able to do so.

 

I might be done with buying headphones for a while.  Which means next up, I might actually get an amp instead of speaker taps.

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AD cost $5000 or Abyss cost $600.  Either way the Abyss would win...but there's no way in hell they would ever be the same price.  

You have no argument from me there.  I was being "polite" and didn't wanna go extreme in my previous answer. ;)

Let's stop trying to make excuses to buy a $600 pair of headphones and compare it to where it doesn't belong.  

I will most likely buy the AD too when Dan is up with his production/shipping but I won't buy thinking it's on the level as the abyss because I know to my ears, they are not regardless of the price.  Just like now, I am listening to my Q701 on WA22.  The sound quality is incredible but I won't say I would prefer or think it's better than HD800/WA22 cuz I know clearly that it's never going to be the case.


Edited by koiloco - 10/26/13 at 8:16pm
post #3420 of 7833
Sounds honest, guess they are all winners at their price points..and your $$$power.biggrin.gif
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