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post #3316 of 9033
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Originally Posted by koolas View Post

What is the difference between XLR and SE in terms of SQ on AD?

SE vs XLR is more about the source/amp portion .....

 

here is an explanation for reading...  ( about the middle of the page )

 

http://www.headfonia.com/the-usual-suspects-12-portable-amps-compared/4/

post #3317 of 9033

@Dixter, thx for that link.  Interesting read for sure but there are more than couple technical points regarding balanced vs unbalanced topology overall that IMO are not quite correct and taken out of context in regard to the original idea/reason why a piece of component would benefit from a balanced design (especially in pro-audio world).  Or maybe, amp/DAC balanced connection will affect the SQ of HPs differently?  So far, I haven't found this to be the case besides signal strength difference.


Edited by koiloco - 10/22/13 at 3:54pm
post #3318 of 9033
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Originally Posted by swspiers View Post
 

Nothing astounding.  I'm getting an Oppo BDP-105 as a graduation present for my BA.  30 years after I dropped out of college, I finally got my Schiit together. :biggrin:

 

Speaking of which, I am seriously considering the Schiit Mjolnir for the amp, but nothing is really decided yet.

 

This will probably hold me over for a few years.  Around the time my wife retires from the Marine Corps, I intend to have a Stax SR-009 and accompanying amp.  Or whatever the stat-of-the-art can is at that time (the pun is intentional)

 

Congrats on the BA, I know that takes a commitment to do as an adult. 

The Mjolnir is what I have decided to base my current setup out of, I will be picking up the Gungir within the next couple of months and we will see what happens from there. 

 

Tell your wife Semper Fi for me...LOL. I served for 13 yrs before I got out several years ago. You know what they say "Once a Marine. Always a Marine"!!!

post #3319 of 9033
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

That's just one of my fave tracks, regardless of whether it's processed or not. I love her vocals on it, and I can test how recessed some midranges are with it.

I'm not anal about whether something is processed or not. Voices will still be within a certain range, etc.

Another one I like is Evanescence - Hello.

Again, I don't just listen to EDM. Who the hell ONLY listens to one type of music? I love all kinds of music.

Unless there's just people that think headphones can only be reviewed with 'non-processed' music, or whatever nonsense they wanna come up with...

Having used so many headphones, I'm pretty sure I've gotten the hang of what kind of frequency response a headphone is putting out at least the girst of the lows, mids, and highs... but anyone is free to argue that my taste in music is so poor that I don't know jack squat.

If you read the post, I was suggesting that reviewers use at least one test track, that's all.   It's important to use favorite tracks as well.

 

And someone can have heard every headphone ever made, and still not understand how the tracks are supposed to sound.

 

Someone who is a reviewer needs to have a reference point.

post #3320 of 9033
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Originally Posted by kstuart View Post
 

If you read the post, I was suggesting that reviewers use at least one test track, that's all.   It's important to use favorite tracks as well.

 

And someone can have heard every headphone ever made, and still not understand how the tracks are supposed to sound.

 

Someone who is a reviewer needs to have a reference point.


+1.  I concur.  Personally, I use the tracks I recorded cuz I know exactly how they're supposed to sound.

post #3321 of 9033

i can hear a difference betw SE n Balanced on my audiogd nfb10. ( watever the theory is/was)  :biggrin:

post #3322 of 9033
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post
 

i can hear a difference betw SE n Balanced on my audiogd nfb10. ( watever the theory is/was)  :biggrin:


Can you describe the difference you hear? Can you still hear the difference in a blind comparison?

post #3323 of 9033
And volume match them. Any comparison with a difference in volume makes it an unbalanced comparison. Ha, unbalanced. XD
post #3324 of 9033

I have a Little Dot MK VII+.  It has both SE and balance outs.  Sound characteristic are the same.  The difference is the balance side is a bit louder than the SE.  Also when every the need arises, the balance out can handle the the grunt.  Not that the SE can't but the balance just sound clearer and fuller, more body.

 

I also ordered a Emotiva Mini X that just arrived today.  It sounds better than the Little Dot and the LD is a very capable amp.  Very clean too, even when driving the SA5000.  Only $169 direct from Emotiva.

post #3325 of 9033
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Originally Posted by mrspeakers View Post
 

[...] ...to ensure highest quality I am inspecting and listening to all units before we ship them.  [...] 

Wow, this is the kind of QA I like!

post #3326 of 9033

I would also like to add that balance out sound a little wider, larger stage and separation.  Sound is the same, just the presentation and power is different.

post #3327 of 9033
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Originally Posted by sunneebear View Post
 

I have a Little Dot MK VII+.  It has both SE and balance outs.  Sound characteristic are the same.  The difference is the balance side is a bit louder than the SE.  Also when every the need arises, the balance out can handle the the grunt.  Not that the SE can't but the balance just sound clearer and fuller, more body.

 

I also ordered a Emotiva Mini X that just arrived today.  It sounds better than the Little Dot and the LD is a very capable amp.  Very clean too, even when driving the SA5000.  Only $169 direct from Emotiva.

 

Welcome to the club!

post #3328 of 9033

Very surprised.  The LD is balanced driven while the Mini X is driven by a old tarnished RCA cable that came with my 80's tape deck and it still sounds better than the LD.

post #3329 of 9033
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Originally Posted by sunneebear View Post
 

I would also like to add that balance out sound a little wider, larger stage and separation.  Sound is the same, just the presentation and power is different.

Unless you have 2 different blocks inside your amp driving the SE and the XLR separately and differently or if your amp is like the Woo WA22 that utilizes only 50% of its power (based on its design) when run unbalanced,  technically the SQ would be the same.  I don't wanna call it placebo effect because I don't know your amp and its design. For this, a blind test done by a trusted friend would normally answer.  Don't forget to volume match.  I am curious to know too.  Thx.

post #3330 of 9033

Suggestion that perhaps too much discussion of margin structures for other companies is getting rather OT.  

 

FYI, our shipping tomorrow will bring us to August 30, so we're at 7 weeks and closing.  

 

:beerchug: 


Edited by mrspeakers - 10/22/13 at 11:12pm
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