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post #3271 of 9033

What? I thought MA900s are dark headphones and I read MLE's MA900 review. He wrote that MA900s are very similar to HD650 but of course like a younger brother.

post #3272 of 9033
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Originally Posted by LoveKnight View Post
 

What? I thought MA900s are dark headphones and I read MLE's MA900 review. He wrote that MA900s are very similar to HD650 but of course like a younger brother.


The MA900s do sound dark to me. A little darker than the Alpha Dogs.

post #3273 of 9033
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The MA900s do sound dark to me. A little darker than the Alpha Dogs.

 

Which is it - dark or does it sound like the Alpha as you said in your impressions? Because the AD is anything but dark.. You're all over the place right now. :confused_face: 


Edited by Greed - 10/21/13 at 8:03pm
post #3274 of 9033
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Which is it - dark or does it sound like the Alpha like you said in your impressions? Because the AD is anything but dark.. You're all over the place right now. :confused_face:

The MA900 is dark. I edited my earlier impressions.

 

Sorry for the confusion, I literally only listened to two songs when I wrote that impression. After having a longer listen I'm sure it's dark.


Edited by zowki - 10/21/13 at 8:07pm
post #3275 of 9033

The Mad Dog (not Alpha, don't have those yet) has more quantity in the lower half of the frequency spectrum than the MA900.  But the MA900 does not sound "bright" because its treble is very well behaved, never shrill or screechy.   The MA900 has a very even frequency response in general.  The combination of that even response and the very airy and open soundstage, provides a significant amount of realism.

 

Whereas the Mad Dog has more accurate instrumental timbre, and very low "blurring" of the instrument's waveform.  This provides a very accurate instrument sound, that is different from the MA900's realism.   One might imagine a headphone with both - perhaps two T50RP drivers in the MA900 super open housing...

 

Note that these first impressions are with one amp.  My guess is that the MA900's impedance matching resistor network causes it to have slightly different balance (dark or not dark) depending on the amp.


Edited by kstuart - 10/21/13 at 8:38pm
post #3276 of 9033

Here is my AD vs MA900 comparison taken from my review thread

 

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  • MA900 has open soundstage, Alpha Dog does not.
  • MA900 sounds darker (less treble emphasis). Alpha Dogs have more treble sparkle.
  • Imaging is roughly the same.
  • Mids sound very similar. Both the MA900 and Alpha Dog have realistic and neutral sounding mids with not much resonances.
  • MA900 mid-bass is emphasized and the sub-bass is recessed in comparison to Alpha Dog. Alpha Dogs have deeper and more powerful bass.
  • Alpha Dog has better speed and faster bass decay. MA900 bass is slower but a little faster than the HD600.

 

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Note that these first impressions are with one amp.  My guess is that the MA900's impedance matching resistor network causes it to have slightly different balance (dark or not dark) depending on the amp.


The purpose of the resistor network is to make the MA900 sound the same across amps with different output impedance so the opposite should be true.

 

Source:

http://rinchoi.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/sony-mdr-ma900-in-depth-analysis.html

post #3277 of 9033
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Originally Posted by LoveKnight View Post
 

What? I thought MA900s are dark headphones and I read MLE's MA900 review. He wrote that MA900s are very similar to HD650 but of course like a younger brother.

He never mentions the word "dark" and he wrote that the HD650 are "fuller in body" than the MA900s.   To me, this is the lower midrange.  Having said that, I also note that in MLE's review, mids are vocals.   In the review, he never mentions specific tracks or music, but my impression (from head-fi posts) is that his listening is mostly recent electronica, and devoid of cellos.

post #3278 of 9033

Any alpha dog vs. TH900 comparisons yet? Would love to see how they stack up since I really love these TH900's ever since owning them. Would love to hear some impressions without regard to price. 

post #3279 of 9033
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Any alpha dog vs. TH900 comparisons yet? Would love to see how they stack up since I really love these TH900's ever since owning them. Would love to hear some impressions without regard to price. 


I'm a former TH900 owner. The Alpha Dogs aren't similar at all. The TH900s have an extremely V-shaped frequency response while the Alpha Dogs are neutral.

post #3280 of 9033

How about a AD vs Mad Dog 3.2 comparison?

post #3281 of 9033
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How about a AD vs Mad Dog 3.2 comparison?

I'll have some comparisons for you in a few days. ;)

post #3282 of 9033
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

How about a AD vs Mad Dog 3.2 comparison?


I thought that MattTCG did one...

post #3283 of 9033
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This may be true.  But lately the people that are self-enchanted seem to be those who are critical of the impressions.

 

In the meantime, it looks like the AD owners are less than willing to share their experience.  Me- I don't care, as I still don't have any rep to loose.

 

But the negative tone in this thread does not seem to be effective in encouraging more feedback.  Unless only about 10 or fewer of us actually own the AD, which I doubt.

 

I am not being critical of anyone's impressions, or anyone for that matter. I was merely stating a fact that I don't think anyone can tell you what "you" should be hearing. Everyone is different. That being said, I love to hear what other people think when they hear a particular piece of equipment. 

As far as being negative I had no intention of being negative, so if I have been then you have my apology. I personally would love to read more reviews of the actual AD's and less arguing with the reviewers. 

post #3284 of 9033
My son is getting impatient. He wants his alphas
post #3285 of 9033
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Originally Posted by jronan2 View Post
 

Any alpha dog vs. TH900 comparisons yet? Would love to see how they stack up since I really love these TH900's ever since owning them. Would love to hear some impressions without regard to price. 

 

I may be in the minority here.  However, I like the ADs by a small margin over the TH900s.  I don't like recessed mids,  The mids on the ADs IMO are better.  Who cares about soundstage.  Both have good treble energy, The ADs are more in line with the FR the TH900s may be a tab tilted upwards.  The bass on the TH900s wins here - more fun.  The bass on the ADs are more of a reference type of bass, refined and not emphasized.   This is just to say - I like a more neutral presentation.  

 

Greed loves the TH900s.  It will be interesting to read his comparisons if he hasn't already done so.  hint hint:biggrin: 


Edited by preproman - 10/22/13 at 3:54am
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