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post #3226 of 9033
I keep my hair very short (use a mechanical hair clippers on its bare setting), and find the comfort strap to be the best headband after the Stax lambda suspension strap, and the Philips X1 padding.
post #3227 of 9033
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Originally Posted by zowki View Post
 


Here is a photo of the headband cushion attached to the leather headband

Looks good! Nice job. Thanks.

post #3228 of 9033
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Ok then you are right and I am wrong.....

 

HD650 = KING OF THE SPEED DEMON HEADPHONES, FASTEST OF THE FAST, FORMULA 1, WARP SPEED, KING OF SPEED. SO FAST THAT IF YOU BLINK YOU WILL MISS THOSE ABSOLUTE SPEED MONSTERS.

 

Cannot even listen to them for more than 5 minutes because the sheer SPEED of them just blows my mind.

Sorry for quoting something from a few pages back, guys. I didn't get on the forums at all yesterday, and this was phrased belligerently enough for me to feel a need to address it.

 

Nicholars, my post was not any sort of attack on what you believe is true. I agree with you that the HD650 does not work well with high-intensity, highly-layered music. I agree completely that it's a "slow" headphone in terms of impulse response. It gets congested, muddy, and nearly unlistenable when confronted with more than a few loud instruments playing at once. I dislike heavy music just as much as you do on the HD650.

 

The point I was making was about a different kind of speed. The HD650 is slow in audio terms, meaning that its driver is literally slow-responding, but that doesn't mean it can't handle fast-paced music. When people say that the HD650 can't handle hard rock, electronica, hip hop, or any number of other genres, it's a hasty generalization, usually based on the notion that the headphone is not suited to "fast" music. What they really mean is that the HD650 isn't suited to music with more than a few high-volume layers, which does happen to include much of the content in the genres they mention. However, making such genre-based or tempo-based generalizations can be dangerous, because no genre is concrete. The HD650 is great with Nine Inch Nails, Michael Hedges, DoubleJoHnGrey, and a million other artists whose music is "fast" in terms of tempo, but minimal in composition.

 

When we get the speed (electrical response time) of a driver and the speed (tempo) of music confused and use genre-based classifications as a vessel for those generalizations, it can be dangerous and can eliminate from our consideration many headphones that might actually be good for our favorite artists.


Edited by ssrock64 - 10/20/13 at 8:52am
post #3229 of 9033

No problem I was only joking... I would say that the HD600/650 can do fast instruments etc. not so bad but I would describe them as lacking in PRAT (punch, rhythm and timing)..... Due to this they are not very good for electronic music or anything which is fast paced as they sound like it has been slowed down almost....


Edited by nicholars - 10/20/13 at 10:04am
post #3230 of 9033
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Presently using the Paradox, which have a soft inner headband suspended with stretchy cords. Would the inner headband on the Alpha Dog be irritating at all to bare skin? Just curious because I have a shaved head. I find the Paradox to be super comfy to wear.

Thanks.

Here's an option that might help. It's a Sennheiser HD650 headband attached with thin double stick tape. Have this on my Pro900 and Denon D7000.

post #3231 of 9033
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No problem I was only joking...
Well I knew you were joking because the Hd650 sound like thick, soft, heavy, glob of slightly hardened mud(!), to me, compared to a hd800..
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Ha
(Actual sound only when thrown at face..)
Edited by Maxx134 - 10/20/13 at 11:06am
post #3232 of 9033

How is the ~450g weight working for you guys who have the headphones? Are the alpha dogs still comfy for extended listening periods when taking into account the weight?


Edited by floeezy - 10/20/13 at 11:06am
post #3233 of 9033
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Originally Posted by zowki View Post
 

Here is a photo of the headband cushion attached to the leather headband

 

Have you wrapped that cushion around both the comfort strap and original Fostex headband?  If so, I understand why you may be having comfort issues with your Alpha Dogs.  On my Mad Dogs, the comfort strap is meant to be allowed to have some space between the original headband.  In the photo of you wearing the Alpha Dogs, it appears that the comfort strap is forced to be right up against the original headband, and this is probably impacting the clamping force and creating problems with the ear cups seating properly.

post #3234 of 9033
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Originally Posted by sonitus mirus View Post
 

 

Have you wrapped that cushion around both the comfort strap and original Fostex headband?  If so, I understand why you may be having comfort issues with your Alpha Dogs.  On my Mad Dogs, the comfort strap is meant to be allowed to have some space between the original headband.  In the photo of you wearing the Alpha Dogs, it appears that the comfort strap is forced to be right up against the original headband, and this is probably impacting the clamping force and creating problems with the ear cups seating properly.


I only wrapped the cushion around the comfort strap, not the Fostex headband. I don't have any comfort issues with the cushion.

post #3235 of 9033
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can someone post a pic of the headphone on someones head? 

careful, some self-proclaimed expert might answer for everyone's behalf and say "No". 


Ha !    Thanks, another demonstration that any sort of between the lines humor doesn't work with so many different cultures coming together.

 

Aside from the fact that having someone else listen to your favorite song is not going to tell you whether you would like the headphones, there is also the fact that if every head-fi member asks early adopters to play their favorite song, no one would enough time to sleep or eat.

 

But even with that, nothing any one person says, will prevent someone else from getting the song and playing it.

 

BTW, I have yet to see any on head-fi proclaim themselves as an expert - but maybe I've been reading the wrong threads. :rolleyes:

post #3236 of 9033
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Originally Posted by floeezy View Post
 

How is the ~450g weight working for you guys who have the headphones? Are the alpha dogs still comfy for extended listening periods when taking into account the weight?

 

i do think the alpha dog is really comfortable, the weight is not a problem at all,

the headphone spread the weight pretty even.

 

i do own a 500g ps1000

and a ultra comfortable hd800

post #3237 of 9033
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Ha !    Thanks, another demonstration that any sort of between the lines humor doesn't work with so many different cultures coming together.

Oh the irony.....
post #3238 of 9033

Have anyone tried the alpha dog with the Ibasso Dx50?

 

I really want to get a portable player that can drive the AD decent.

I am planning to bring it with me to trips.

 

 

Thanks

post #3239 of 9033
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Originally Posted by furyagain View Post
 

Have anyone tried the alpha dog with the Ibasso Dx50?

 

I really want to get a portable player that can drive the AD decent.

I am planning to bring it with me to trips.

 

 

Thanks


When I'm on the go, I use my Sansa Clip+ which drives the Alpha Dogs very well.  I only have to listen at -24dB volume on Rockbox. The Alpha Dogs are surprisingly easy to drive (easier to drive compared to other T50RP mods like the Paradox and Thunderpants).

 

I take my Alpha Dogs out with me every day. I love using them in the library.


Edited by zowki - 10/20/13 at 10:20pm
post #3240 of 9033
15 mW Clip+ yay. I've got a Clip Zip myself and Rockbox is awesome!
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