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post #3031 of 8449

anyone know the ohm impedance? are they efficient  enough to use with a fiio e11. Could a WA2?

post #3032 of 8449
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The site indicated upgrades would begin after the initial rush new AD orders was fulfilled, and Dan has lots and lots new orders right now apparently.

Don't know where you are in the queue but Dan sent me a note that mine would be at the end of this month but hoping to ship out sooner.  I am number 3 on the list of upgrades from MD->AD.

post #3033 of 8449
When did Dan send you that email, I was thinking I was pretty early on the list for upgrades (within the hour it launched) and I haven't heard from him.
post #3034 of 8449
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Don't know where you are in the queue but Dan sent me a note that mine would be at the end of this month but hoping to ship out sooner.  I am number 3 on the list of upgrades from MD->AD.

Does everyone get a note from Dan or a auto response?  I got nothing.  I filed for a upgrade with in hours of the announcement. 

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Does everyone get a note from Dan or a auto response?  I got nothing.  I filed for a upgrade with in hours of the announcement. 

I filled it out about 10-15 minutes after he posted the form on this forum and I haven't heard anything.  The form didn't give any feedback when I filled it in, but not sure if that's changed.  Dan just reassured the forum that the form was working and that he'd get to us when the new orders were fulfilled.


Edited by uzi - 10/17/13 at 9:17am
post #3036 of 8449
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Does everyone get a note from Dan or a auto response?  I got nothing.  I filed for a upgrade with in hours of the announcement. 

My MD's were upgrading to MD 3.2 balanced and the day before the announcement was asked if I wanted to upgrade to the AD.  So technically I was on the list to upgrade the day before the announcement with the headphones already on location.  I got the notice from him end of September that mine should ship end of Oct.  

post #3037 of 8449

We added a feedback email to the form a few days after we put it up.

 

Our site is down due to our ISP pushing an update without our knowledge or testing that broke the site.  Obviously I am currently in town.  :-)

post #3038 of 8449

I'm planning to hold on to the Alpha Dogs for another week and if I still don't like them they will be up for sale. The air and soundstage is too lacking. I'll be going back to open headphones. I wouldn't have been so disappointed if I knew the sound was going to be closed sounding. The lesson, dear reader: lower your expectations when riding the head-fi hype train.


Edited by zowki - 10/17/13 at 10:31am
post #3039 of 8449
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I'm planning to hold on to the Alpha Dogs for another week and if I still don't like them they will be up for sale. The air and soundstage is too lacking. I'll be going back to open headphones. I wouldn't have been so disappointed if I knew the sound was going to be closed sounding. The lesson, dear reader: lower your expectations when riding the head-fi hype train.

 

Or just do not expect closed headphones to sound like open headphones....

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Or just do not expect closed headphones to sound like open headphones....

^This. There is no magic damping material or scheme that somehow perfectly absorbs backwaves in closed headphone cups, not currently at least. The only real metric is "more closed-sounding" vs "less" with fully closed headphones.

post #3041 of 8449
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Originally Posted by zowki View Post
 

The more I listen to the Alpha Dogs the more I'm disappointed by the lack of soundstage and air. I expected so much more after watching Jude say that it sounds just like an open headphone. To my ears, the Alpha Dog's soundstage is no better than a fairly good closed headphone. I recall even my LFF Paradox had better soundstage. When I switch back to my HD600, I get so much wider soundstage and airer sound.

 

Sorry to go against the hype but this is honestly what I hear and I'm a little disappointed. Everything else about the Alpha Dogs is amazing though.

 

Edit:

Pic of my AD with my HD600 and amps

 

Before you give up on them, try and see how different / more powerful amps synergize with the AD.  While I own the MDs 3.2, I found them to scale up considerably going from a Centrance M8 balanced (not a slouch in itself) to my Headroom Balanced Desktop amp.  The latter has much more punch and just adds greater presence to the sound.  

 

Granted, this may not solve your specific concerns with soundstage, but it's still worth it to experience the synergy with a beefier amp.  

 

No doubt the Alphas are on board the bullet hype train, but I'd try and feed them to their potential before jumping off.

post #3042 of 8449
I don't know of any closed headpbone that sounds as "open" as an open can(!) , but there are more important aspects to sound than soundstage,
Like tonality and presence and realism.
A closed can can still sound large and wide if not deep.
I find most open cans lacking in bass or impact and the soundstage adds distance and expansiveness wich distracts from the intimacy and makes me want to turn up the volume to hear the mids.
But to each his own tongue.gif ha
post #3043 of 8449
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Or just do not expect closed headphones to sound like open headphones....

Exactly.

 

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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

^This. There is no magic damping material or scheme that somehow perfectly absorbs backwaves in closed headphone cups, not currently at least. The only real metric is "more closed-sounding" vs "less" with fully closed headphones.

 

Agreed.

 

Compared directly to my other closed-headphones, the ADs are definitely wider sounding than the Mad Dogs, Momentums (on-ear), AIAIAI Young Guru's, etc. I do feel that my Ultrasone Signature DJs are airier, more energetic (up-top) and wider while the Spider Moonlight and Yamaha MT220 have better instrument separation even though they feel more "closed-in".

 

Comparing the ADs to something like the HD600s is a bit tricky. I do feel that they actually are similar in fact but this is just going from memory.

 

Still, I do believe that the ADs are superb performers from top to bottom! ;)

post #3044 of 8449

When I tried the Alpha Dog at the RMAF on different amps that Dan has on his table. I found big differences in the soundstage depending on what amp I was using. I was a bit surprised on how much difference amps can make with the Alpha Dog since all three amps that I tried are strong good desktop amps. The Liquid Glass with the Alpha Dog was Wow! The Schiit Lyr which I owned was next and the Burson Conductor was the last as far soundstage is concerned. It seems that the Alpha Dog picks up the differences in amps quite readily.

post #3045 of 8449

Some music sounds worse with a huge soundstage.... Anyway it just seems a bit silly to me saying "these do not sound as open as open headphones, I am going to sell them and go back to open headphones"..... What did you expect? If they could make closed headphones sound like open headphones then there would be no point in having open headphones.... All closed headphones will have reverb from the cups, so you get more bass and a more closed in sound, that is until they invent some sort of black hole inter dimensional material which goes in the headphone cups.....

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