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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

I wish some of those were actually reviews though. It might be hard to because these mods go through so many revisions and would make his review dated. If the ALPHA DOG isn't expected to go through many revisions because of the 3d printed cup then and waits more than a year it would make a lot of sense for him to review it. 

 

There was an article to go with those measurements, but I couldn't find it again.

post #1487 of 7683

I previously owned the TH-600s and for me they hit all the acoustic marks (open-sounding, good impact and extended bass, and sparkly treble.  Mids not so bad for a "fun-shaped" response curve).  The next jump for me was the TH-900 but then these ADs were announced so I got in on the pre-order, sold the TH-600.  Figured if these ADs fit in somewhere between the TH-600 and TH-900 I'd be a happy camper and not even think about the TH-900 (at least not on a daily basis ;)).   

 

 

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

Price no option I'll take the TH900s

 

Price per performance I'll take the ADs all day long..

 

Never hearing the Th600 - the ADs may come even closer to them than the TH900s.

post #1488 of 7683
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

From memory I'll take the AD's over the D2K and D5K either way.  The D7K puts up a better fight.  Really have to have them side by side to decide..

At the time I received the Mad Dog 3.2, I had the HE-400 and D2K on hand.

 

I listed the D2K for sale the next day.

post #1489 of 7683
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

 

 

 

 

And me..:biggrin:  I pretty much like open headphones opposed to closed.  However, the ADs are some really good closed headphones.  They even do mids better than the TH900:eek:  IMO of course.  Bass - the TH900 gets the nod.  However, the ADs are not far behind.   The treble while both are pretty smooth the TH900s are brighter and the ADs are on the dark side but doesn't seem to be recessed at all.  The Th900 are more lively up which I happen to like, even that becomes ones preference.  

 

Price no option I'll take the TH900s

 

Price per performance I'll take the ADs all day long..

 

Never hearing the Th600 - the ADs may come even closer to them than the TH900s.  

 

From memory I'll take the AD's over the D2K and D5K either way.  The D7K puts up a better fight.  Really have to have them side by side to decide..

 

Just to be clear, you are referring to quality of bass, and not quantity right? If so, I would most definitely agree. The Alpha Dog bass is tight, controlled, and accurate - very well balanced. If the track calls for bass slam and increased quantity, the Alpha Dog will deliver. If the track calls for bass light tone, the same. If we are talking overall bass quantity, the TH-900 definitely have more. They are more suited for those that want that extra bass (bassheads or people who just want a change from the rest of their cans). 

 

Can't stress enough that I feel the AD bass section is accurate and natural sounding. 


Edited by Greed - 9/13/13 at 10:36am
post #1490 of 7683
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Originally Posted by Sinocelt View Post
 

Is it too much to hope that Tyll (InnerFidelity) receives a sample for review?

If I were a small headphone maker, the last thing I would do is send Tyll a sample.

 

There is too much of a risk that there would be some sort of measurement result that would be perceived as negative.

 

Lots of people are out there doing measurements that do not correlate to sound quality.  If you ask them, they will admit that, but they keep doing those measurements anyway.

 

A frequency response graph is okay, but you could draw it yourself after an hour of listening...

post #1491 of 7683
I, for one, don't think that a Tyll review of the Alpha Dogs will happen after he reacted so passively to the Mad Dogs. I kind of hope to be proven wrong, though, as I think that the former's sound signature would probably be better received by Tyll (based on what those here who have listened to it have reported).
post #1492 of 7683
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Originally Posted by Greed View Post
 

 

Just to be clear, you are referring to quality of bass, and not quantity right? If so, I would most definitely agree. The Alpha Dog bass is tight, controlled, and accurate - very well balanced. If the track calls for bass slam and increased quantity, the Alpha Dog will deliver. If the track calls for bass light tone, the same. If we are talking overall bass quantity, the TH-900 definitely have more. They are more suited for those that want that extra bass (bassheads or people who just want a change from the rest of their cans). 

 

Can't stress enough that I feel the AD bass section is accurate and natural sounding. 

 

Yes agreed.  The TH900 has more bass no doubt (quantity) I would say the bass on the ADs are more linear, not as much in the quantity area but will hold it's own in the quality area very refined and gives you what's asked for.

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For those few who've heard the Alpha Dog...

 

I've got a conundrum. I do 80-90% of my listening at work, like lots of us, mostly classical. I can get away with either open or closed. Closed can be nice, because I can leave my door open. Open can be nice, because when the door is closed, I can hear people knock. I may prefer closed though with the door open. 

 

Here's the choice: Do I get a HE-400 to compliment my HD600 or do I sell the HD600, not buy the HE-400, and get the Alpha Dog? The HE-400 would be to something fun and different to compliment my HD600 and because I got a little room in my budget. The Alpha Dog would be the pursuit of the next level, as close to TOTL as my budget will likely ever take me. Either way, its likely to be the end of my headfi search for quite some time. So I guess what I'm asking, with the HD600 and HE-400 both being great cost to ratio phones, is Alpha Dog > HE-400 + HD600 or is the HD600 + HE-400 > Alpha Dog? 

 

(If it helps, my at home headphone is likely to be the 3.2 Mad Dog, where I need closed. I liked the 3.2 more than the 3.0 for classical but I probably prefer the HD600 at this point... The 3.2 is much more of a challenger to the HD600 for classical than the 3.0 was.) 


Edited by imackler - 9/13/13 at 11:45am
post #1494 of 7683
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Originally Posted by imackler View Post
 

For those few who've heard the Alpha Dog...

 

I've got a conundrum. I do 80-90% of my listening at work, like lots of us, mostly classical. I can get away with either open or closed. Closed can be nice, because I can leave my door open. Open can be nice, because when the door is closed, I can hear people knock. I may prefer closed though with the door open. 

 

Here's the choice: Do I get a HE-400 to compliment my HD600 or do I sell the HD600, not buy the HE-400, and get the Alpha Dog? The HE-400 would be to something fun and different to compliment my HD600 and because I got a little room in my budget. The Alpha Dog would be the pursuit of the next level, as close to TOTL as my budget will likely ever take me. Either way, its likely to be the end of my headfi search for quite some time. So I guess what I'm asking, with the HD600 and HE-400 both being great cost to ratio phones, is Alpha Dog > HE-400 + HD600 or is the HD600 + HE-400 > Alpha Dog? 

 

(If it helps, my at home headphone is likely to be the 3.2 Mad Dog, where I need closed. I liked the 3.2 more than the 3.0 for classical but I probably prefer the HD600 at this point... The 3.2 is much more of a challenger to the HD600 for classical than the 3.0 was.) 

 

With what you said, I personally would go with AD.  Easy decision.  Yes, I have heard the AD.

post #1495 of 7683
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Originally Posted by imackler View Post

For those few who've heard the Alpha Dog...

I've got a conundrum. I do 80-90% of my listening at work, like lots of us, mostly classical. I can get away with either open or closed. Closed can be nice, because I can leave my door open. Open can be nice, because when the door is closed, I can hear people knock. I may prefer closed though with the door open. 

Here's the choice: Do I get a HE-400 to compliment my HD600 or do I sell the HD600, not buy the HE-400, and get the Alpha Dog? The HE-400 would be to something fun and different to compliment my HD600 and because I got a little room in my budget. The Alpha Dog would be the pursuit of the next level, as close to TOTL as my budget will likely ever take me. Either way, its likely to be the end of my headfi search for quite some time. So I guess what I'm asking, with the HD600 and HE-400 both being great cost to ratio phones, is Alpha Dog > HE-400 + HD600 or is the HD600 + HE-400 > Alpha Dog? 

(If it helps, my at home headphone is likely to be the 3.2 Mad Dog, where I need closed. I liked the 3.2 more than the 3.0 for classical but I probably prefer the HD600 at this point... The 3.2 is much more of a challenger to the HD600 for classical than the 3.0 was.) 
Or, you could be like me and get a used he-500 like new from amazon...for the same price as the AD..
post #1496 of 7683
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Originally Posted by imackler View Post
 

For those few who've heard the Alpha Dog...

 

I've got a conundrum. I do 80-90% of my listening at work, like lots of us, mostly classical. I can get away with either open or closed. Closed can be nice, because I can leave my door open. Open can be nice, because when the door is closed, I can hear people knock. I may prefer closed though with the door open.

 

Here's the choice: Do I get a HE-400 to compliment my HD600 or do I sell the HD600, not buy the HE-400, and get the Alpha Dog? The HE-400 would be to something fun and different to compliment my HD600 and because I got a little room in my budget. The Alpha Dog would be the pursuit of the next level, as close to TOTL as my budget will likely ever take me. Either way, its likely to be the end of my headfi search for quite some time. So I guess what I'm asking, with the HD600 and HE-400 both being great cost to ratio phones, is Alpha Dog > HE-400 + HD600 or is the HD600 + HE-400 > Alpha Dog?

 

(If it helps, my at home headphone is likely to be the 3.2 Mad Dog, where I need closed. I liked the 3.2 more than the 3.0 for classical but I probably prefer the HD600 at this point... The 3.2 is much more of a challenger to the HD600 for classical than the 3.0 was.)

... Deleted since I havent heard the AD but I vote for AD+600 or just AD. I just hope the mids are close to as sweet as the hd6xx and the drums smakc like an hd650.

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Originally Posted by kstuart View Post
 

If I were a small headphone maker, the last thing I would do is send Tyll a sample.

 

There is too much of a risk that there would be some sort of measurement result that would be perceived as negative.

 

Lots of people are out there doing measurements that do not correlate to sound quality.  If you ask them, they will admit that, but they keep doing those measurements anyway.

 

A frequency response graph is okay, but you could draw it yourself after an hour of listening...

 

That is true after listening you can hear what the graph shows but I like Tylll because he seems like an honest reviewer. . I think that someone sending it to him would risk his honesty hurting sales.... But on the flip side if the phone is as good as everyone says and can stand up to the test then It would help him out a lot.

I think that is why Tyll is respected on here.

 

I like your opinion it makes sense but if I was confident in my product I would send it to him. I was disapointed when I got the x1 but he didnt make it to be something it was not like headphonia. The x1 is a wierd one though.


Edited by grizzlybeast - 9/13/13 at 1:05pm
post #1497 of 7683
I really hope I'm part of the audition group. Here's why - all the talk about how impressive the bass is has me intrigued as I tried the 3.1 version (I think) and was underwhelmed beyond words. However, with my vintage Spec amp setup the source is so much better than six months ago and with respected members comparing the bass to D5000's and TH600's, I have GOT to hear these.

If true, Dan will have converted the most skeptical listener in history.
post #1498 of 7683

Im getting the impression that expecting bass quantitiy in AD similar to th600 and denon ahdxxxx would leave some disapointment. But bass quality being on par with Fostex dynamic drivers won't be an issue. As stated before by who ever I am too lazy to quote.


Edited by grizzlybeast - 9/13/13 at 1:13pm
post #1499 of 7683
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post

I really hope I'm part of the audition group. Here's why - all the talk about how impressive the bass is has me intrigued as I tried the 3.1 version (I think) and was underwhelmed beyond words. However, with my vintage Spec amp setup the source is so much better than six months ago and with respected members comparing the bass to D5000's and TH600's, I have GOT to hear these.

If true, Dan will have converted the most skeptical listener in history.

I also had version 3.1. Missed out on 3.2 by four days. I was impressed but also found them lacking. I really wish I could have tried the 3.2 so I would have no doubt. I'm eager to try out the Alphas and give this another go. Perhaps running them from speaker taps might help. Preproman has been using his on an Emotiva so I know they sound pretty decent from them.

post #1500 of 7683

I was going to purchase the LCD-2 but these also appear to be good. What to do?

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