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post #1441 of 9033
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post

Since ortho drivers produce sound in both directions, doesn't that mean that they're much less ideal for closed cans because the sound produced in the other direction would be running straight into a wall...? Would make it very difficult to even make a closed hp in the first place with an ortho driver, eh? Just curious here...

 

Not much, Nimzerz.  That's why they came out with the closed T50rp.  Also, the driver is much smaller compared to HE500, HE6 and the LCD so the effect of closed cups won't be as noticeable.  If you cover up the HE500, HE6, no no no.  ;)  It also has to do with the overall design.  On LCDs, though they are open, the effect when you close up the cups won't be as dramatic as in Hifiman's.  On top of that, the 3D printed cups mimic sound dampening panels in patterns, shapes... to minimize bounce back and control the sound/tone.  I can really appreciate the work it has taken Dan in fine tuning the cups to get the sound the AD is producing now.   

post #1442 of 9033

I know electrostatic drivers produce sound from both sides of the driver. If you put your hands over the STAX Lambda series earspeakers, you can actually feel the air being moved. It's kind of scary actually. XD

post #1443 of 9033
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post

Not much, Nimzerz.  That's why they came out with the closed T50rp.  Also, the driver is much smaller compared to HE500, HE6 and the LCD so the effect of closed cups won't be as noticeable.  If you cover up the HE500, HE6, no no no.  wink.gif   It also has to do with the overall design.  On LCDs, though they are open, the effect when you close up the cups won't be as dramatic as in Hifiman's.  On top of that, the 3D printed cups mimic sound dampening panels in patterns, shapes... to minimize bounce back and control the sound/tone.  I can really appreciate the work it has taken Dan in fine tuning the cups to get the sound the AD is producing now.   
Sounds very impressive and seems like it would involve lottttts of hard work! Lol, that's one thing I could see many people appreciating about the AD. A closed hp that can compete in some ways with other orthos, while still having that ortho sound that people love in other open headphones. To have that in a closed hp is probably something special to some wink.gif
post #1444 of 9033
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Originally Posted by mikek200 View Post
 

 

Excellent comments on the AD's

I forgot ,you were one of the early testers-correct?

I've sold all my headphones,EXCEPT  the MD's ,to purchase the hd800's,and I'm glad I did..I compare all other headphones to the 800's,and IMHO,the only ones that came close were the he-6,'s..comfort wize,well,no comment.

I am waiting for Dan to give us the word,when we can upgrade,will probably be end of the month

 

Matt--what amp & dac are you using with the AD's?

 

I used the following: Asgard2, lyr, and two vintage receivers (Sansui 9090db and Pioneer 1280). 

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I'm just not sure if I want to save money for an HD800, or just settle for the Alpha Dog. I just don't know which I'd prefer, or if the HD800 is worth over twice the price. 

post #1446 of 9033
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Originally Posted by jasonb View Post
 

I'm just not sure if I want to save money for an HD800, or just settle for the Alpha Dog. I just don't know which I'd prefer, or if the HD800 is worth over twice the price. 

 

You are in the same situation as me! I have ordered the Alpha Dog and am contemplating if I should go for the HD800 as well.

post #1447 of 9033

Well, I don't have the funds for both. The AD wouldn't be too hard to save for, but the HD800 is about 3 full weeks of pay for me, so that's a lot.    

 

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Originally Posted by uelover View Post
 

 

You are in the same situation as me! I have ordered the Alpha Dog and am contemplating if I should go for the HD800 as well.

post #1448 of 9033
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Originally Posted by jasonb View Post
 

I'm just not sure if I want to save money for an HD800, or just settle for the Alpha Dog. I just don't know which I'd prefer, or if the HD800 is worth over twice the price. 

 

Let me put it this way

I would,ld never sell my maddogs--they are that good,& unbelievably comfortable,& for me,comfort is a big issue

I need a closed can,because my main audio/photography set-up is in my bedroom,and the 800's are very open..so the wife has difficulty sleeping with the 800's

The real benefit of the new AD's is that even though they are closed..the sound is supposed to sound like an open hp..

The hd800's  ,are an entirely different type of headphone,and extremly comfortable

 

Dollar for dollar,you will not get a better closed  hp,than the MD's,or,AD's


Edited by mikek200 - 9/12/13 at 6:35pm
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Some of it would come down to your music perferences, the gear you have, your budget. All  the Senn's are incredibly comfy and honestly I'll always keep the hd650. It's a great complement to the MD/AD. As far as choosing between the AD and hd800, I couldn't begin to help you. The 800 holds no interest for me. 

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Well, I like my Q701 a lot, so I'd think the next logical step was the HD800. I also like my self modded T50rp, but I do have some problems with it. Now I'd say that Dan knows what he is doing, meanwhile I don't, I'm just fooling around. So I'd assume his AD's would destroy my self modded T50rp. People also keep referring to the AD's as being close to a closed HD800, so that intrigues me. My only real complaint about my Q701 is that it is a little bass light, but the tone control on my Pioneer fixes that with the knob at +2. I'm actually really REALLY impressed with the Q701 on my SX-750, but I still can't help but think about upgrading. I really need to just ban myself from head-fi and just be happy, but I'm weak.

 

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

Some of it would come down to your music perferences, the gear you have, your budget. All  the Senn's are incredibly comfy and honestly I'll always keep the hd650. It's a great complement to the MD/AD. As far as choosing between the AD and hd800, I couldn't begin to help you. The 800 holds no interest for me. 

post #1451 of 9033
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Amen to that. Thanks to head-fi I almost have enough tubes to light up my own NOS Christmas tree.

post #1452 of 9033

I just watched Judes video from the first post again, he makes it sound so goooood. He is so convincing. I'm almost contemplating getting the Mad Dog now, and then sending it in later for the upgrade. I listen to 90% rock and metal, does it seem like the Alpha Dog would be a really good choice for rock and metal music? I like how Jude kept mentioning the speed. 

post #1453 of 9033
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

Some of it would come down to your music perferences, the gear you have, your budget. All  the Senn's are incredibly comfy and honestly I'll always keep the hd650. It's a great complement to the MD/AD. As far as choosing between the AD and hd800, I couldn't begin to help you. The 800 holds no interest for me

I said the same thing until a few days ago when I finally had a chance to properly try the HD800 from a good amp. :D

 

Not sure who said that "AD being close to a closed HD800"? but oh please people, keep your fanboyism in check.  I know it's a subjective hobby but try to stay neutral and offer your sincere impression.  Just to clarify that AD and HD800 are both on my list to consider buying next.  But that comparison is a little too exaggerated, IMO of course.


Edited by koiloco - 9/12/13 at 7:14pm
post #1454 of 9033

Ok, I'll bite. What amp?

post #1455 of 9033
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Originally Posted by jasonb View Post

I just watched Judes video from the first post again, he makes it sound so goooood. He is so convincing. I'm almost contemplating getting the Mad Dog now, and then sending it in later for the upgrade. I listen to 90% rock and metal, does it seem like the Alpha Dog would be a really good choice for rock and metal music? I like how Jude kept mentioning the speed. 

What video published by Jude doesn't do that? Lol
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