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post #1306 of 9033
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

 

Ok, I'd ask you to explain, but that would be reaching too far OT.

 

I've already made my case here:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/656160/review-hifiman-he-500-vs-sennheiser-hd600

 

The HE-500 is good, but not worthy of the hype that it receives.

Yeah it would OT, plus you've also been told by literally dozens of Head-Fiers on various threads that they don't share your opinion. So no need to repeat history here. Just putting out my opinion, same as you since I did own both phones at the same time.

post #1307 of 9033
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Originally Posted by mrspeakers View Post
 

We perceive height in real sound, so it's a valid consideration for any transducer.  If you don't believe that snap your fingers above your head.  If height were not detected, it would be heard as being "IN" your head because the sound arrives at both ears at the same time.

 

But this is probably a better sound science topic, just so we don't get too OT...

 

Very good and simple test for perceived height, depth, and width (snapping fingers in all four directions around the head).  Its a trip listening to binaural recordings purposely recorded to capture these sound localization planes.  Sorry, a little OT.

post #1308 of 9033

For some reason I find soundstaging not really important to enjoyment of music. It's a neat trick and did give me "wow moments" when I was a noob with my very first open-backed headphone (Q701); but it's just not important for me anymore. Instrument seperation and imaging is somewhat important, but I really don't care about height, width, depth. If these things were important I would buy the AKG 701/702 series and call it quits or get the HD800 and laugh at everyone. Throw in a Smyth Realiser and I'll have all the soundstaging I can possible ever want.

post #1309 of 9033
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 

Yeah it would OT, plus you've also been told by literally dozens of Head-Fiers on various threads that they don't share your opinion. So no need to repeat history here. Just putting out my opinion, same as you since I did own both phones at the same time.

 

Very nice use of hyperbole.

 

Excuse me while I go hook up my HE-500 to the power mains.

post #1310 of 9033
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post
 

 

Very nice use of hyperbole.

 

Excuse me while I go hook up my HE-500 to the power mains.

 

Well a dozen is 12, you do have dozens (as in plural) number of people telling you on the HE-500 thread alone that they don't share your opinion. I know you just ignored them so perhaps you didn't bother to count. Not sure why you presist in this useless crusade on almost any thread that talk about the HE-500. It's just odd to me.

 

Planar headphones handle power different from traditional cone-type dynamic drivers. In fact Yamaha, who invented the word Orthodynamic reommended 4 to 10 Watts into their phones on the user-manual. As you've noticed a lot of people say the Mad Dog sounds darn good off speaker amps, vintage or modern. Plus you don't even have the HE-500 so how are you going hook them up to power mains?

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AND back on topic. :rolleyes: I would like to speculate about final changes for the AD since Dan won't share any details. I'd guess 3d laser etched graphics with personalization as an option. Mine will say MattTCG DND (do not disturb...you know, for the wife).  

post #1312 of 9033
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

AND back on topic. :rolleyes: I would like to speculate about final changes for the AD since Dan won't share any details. I'd guess 3d laser etched graphics with personalization as an option. Mine will say MattTCG DND (do not disturb...you know, for the wife).  

 

Sounds like you're setting yourself up for some trouble.

 

Good thing, down the road the DND can double for "Do not divorce" ... you know, for the wife.

 

:D

post #1313 of 9033
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

AND back on topic. :rolleyes: I would like to speculate about final changes for the AD since Dan won't share any details. I'd guess 3d laser etched graphics with personalization as an option. Mine will say MattTCG DND (do not disturb...you know, for the wife). 

 

I say better quality leather for the comfort strap? Either that or fancy Mr. Speakers branded cable connectors?

post #1314 of 9033
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Originally Posted by mrspeakers View Post
 

We perceive height in real sound, so it's a valid consideration for any transducer.  If you don't believe that snap your fingers above your head.  If height were not detected, it would be heard as being "IN" your head because the sound arrives at both ears at the same time.

 

But this is probably a better sound science topic, just so we don't get too OT...

 

 

I do hear "height" in headphones, but it is usually hearing centered images such as snare drum or lead vocal above my head, not in front. Those things are usually in the depth perspective when heard through loudspeakers....you hear them in the rear of the speakers soundstage. Speakers or headphones, they are still reproducing whatever imaging is inherent in the recording. If they are "making up" imaging, they are probably wired out of phase :D

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Now that's good for a belly laugh for sure. Well, kinda. :o Now back to the show. The sound on the AD is a show stopper. If Dan can pull off some stunning paint job with some subtle touches to add refinement, then he may just be able to sell a few pair. 

 

I still vote for matte black cups with black power coated risers. I know, I know...it will never happen but I can always dream. 

post #1316 of 9033
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The sound on the AD is a show stopper.
You've heard it?
post #1317 of 9033
Yes in the test group.
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We should start a poll on what the secret changes are. My top 3:

 

1. A box. A nice case to ship in/store them in. 

 

2. A headphone stand. Something simple but elegant that would showcase the first 3d printed headphone.

 

3. A new comfort strap. Maybe just a small change that makes it look a little classed-up. 

 

and then reality: some Mr.Speakers/Alpha Dog swag. 

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I have a guess. I'll just have to wait and see if I'm right...
post #1320 of 9033
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Originally Posted by Kamakahah View Post
 

We should start a poll on what the secret changes are. My top 3:

 

1. A box. A nice case to ship in/store them in.

 

2. A headphone stand. Something simple but elegant that would showcase the first 3d printed headphone.

 

3. A new comfort strap. Maybe just a small change that makes it look a little classed-up.

 

and then reality: some Mr.Speakers/Alpha Dog swag.

 

No no. I think a Dan Clark action figure will be included.

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