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Very tempted by these as my first foray into non-cheapo IEMS. The few comments ive read here and elsewhere about them being heavy and falling out are all thats holding me back. Does anyone use them for the gym/biking etc who can share their experience?
post #302 of 500
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Very tempted by these as my first foray into non-cheapo IEMS. The few comments ive read here and elsewhere about them being heavy and falling out are all thats holding me back. Does anyone use them for the gym/biking etc who can share their experience?

The MA600 are made of aluminum and are light with a strong cable (and 3 year warranty).  I'll post a review shortly but I definitely think they're well suited for gym use.

post #303 of 500
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Very tempted by these as my first foray into non-cheapo IEMS. The few comments ive read here and elsewhere about them being heavy and falling out are all thats holding me back. Does anyone use them for the gym/biking etc who can share their experience?

 

I've used them a few times in the gym and had no problem with them falling out.

They are a bit heavy but the ergonomic of the housing and the over-ear design are very effective for keeping them in place. I couldn't get them out of my ear even shaking my head violently but the tight seal could be broken during movement.

Right tips are very important for how securely they sit in the ear as well.

 

For the gym the VSonic VSD1 are better though for me as the cable and housing is less intrusive. 

I'm using the 750i version however that can't have the slider pulled tight though and the mic/remote is in the way.

You need to make your own chin/cable slider with the piece of pliable wire that comes with the in-ears so you can wear them like you see the Shures in this video for the VSD1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BiqHs8w_p8

 I have to use a reversed left right side for an over the ear fit.

Sound wise the VSD1 are no slouch. They are quite comparable to the MA750 and for less money. They have no chance is hell competing in build quality however.

 

I have the

post #304 of 500

Thanks for the input lads, I bought the M750s  The M600s were definitely in the balance too. VSD1s seem like a bargain but the build quality swings it for me. Along with the 3 year warranty and that they're local (im in the UK). I spotted the deal for 10% off at that advanced MP3 place and dropped the hammer.

 

I'd go through £70s worth of cheapos in 3 years easliy. So I was actually saving money by buying the shiny headphones :wink_face: 

post #305 of 500
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I've used them a few times in the gym and had no problem with them falling out.

They are a bit heavy but the ergonomic of the housing and the over-ear design are very effective for keeping them in place. I couldn't get them out of my ear even shaking my head violently but the tight seal could be broken during movement.

Right tips are very important for how securely they sit in the ear as well.

 

For the gym the VSonic VSD1 are better though for me as the cable and housing is less intrusive. 

I'm using the 750i version however that can't have the slider pulled tight though and the mic/remote is in the way.

You need to make your own chin/cable slider with the piece of pliable wire that comes with the in-ears so you can wear them like you see the Shures in this video for the VSD1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BiqHs8w_p8

 I have to use a reversed left right side for an over the ear fit.

Sound wise the VSD1 are no slouch. They are quite comparable to the MA750 and for less money. They have no chance is hell competing in build quality however.

 

 

 

I have the MA750(non-i) on hand right now. Is your 750 defective maybe? Read the other day about the treble comment. Now about the VSD1 which I have had which is outclassed by the 750. I sold my VSD1 in favor of my Senn PCX 95 which was better and the RHA beats the PCX worse than the PCX beat the VSD1.

 

Even Eric says the RHA are closer to his beloved M200 than he thought they would be. I concur and say that they are closer to my SA7 limited than I thought they would be. The VDS1 is a budget phone that can play close to some mid-levels but the RHA750 is a mid-tier that plays with some top tiers. IME, the VSD1 doesn't play with any top tiers unless they are really under-performing. Outside of the the VSD1 LE which I haven't heard, I wouldn't make the "save some money and you can get away with this instead of that" recommendation in this case.

 

Not trying to be a jerk, but since your MA750 experience is quite a bit less satisfying than quite a few others, you might want to get to the bottom of why you aren't in the majority. Maybe you can get more out of them and be happier with them. Or might be possible that they just don't work for you. Just seems like something could be off.


Edited by jant71 - 11/25/13 at 3:15pm
post #306 of 500
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I have the MA750(non-i) on hand right now. Is your 750 defective maybe? Read the other day about the treble comment. Now about the VSD1 which I have had which is outclassed by the 750. I sold my VSD1 in favor of my Senn PCX 95 which was better and the RHA beats the PCX worse than the PCX beat the VSD1.

 

Even Eric says the RHA are closer to his beloved M200 than he thought they would be. I concur and say that they are closer to my SA7 limited than I thought they would be. The VDS1 is a budget phone that can play close to some mid-levels but the RHA750 is a mid-tier that plays with some top tiers. IME, the VSD1 doesn't play with any top tiers unless they are really under-performing. Outside of the the VSD1 LE which I haven't heard, I wouldn't make the "save some money and you can get away with this instead of that" recommendation in this case.

 

Not trying to be a jerk, but since your MA750 experience is quite a bit less satisfying than quite a few others, you might want to get to the bottom of why you aren't in the majority. Maybe you can get more out of them and be happier with them. Or might be possible that they just don't work for you. Just seems like something could be off.

 

First off, I don't understand why he would care that he isn't in the majority.  My MA750 experience has been absolutely less than stellar as well - they just do not perform as I believed they would or should.  

 

I will expound upon my thoughts and experiences in the dynamic shootout that I'm in the process of writing - a comparison of four dynamics that are fairly well known but I don't believe have been compared directly.  It should be up sometime this week.  

post #307 of 500

Don't take it the wrong way. It doesn't matter where you end up. The more important thing is to know why. If they don't work well with one's gear or ears that is fine. But best to find out why. What if they can be improved or if something is off. His reports of that much lack of treble and /or treble detail sounds really off. If my pair had that I could see saying the same thing vs. the VSD1 which do lack some treble and treble detail but should cause they go to 22,000 on the treble and not 30,000 like their bigger brother GR07.

 

Trying to be helpful cause if there is something amiss maybe it can be rectified. Not being a jerk that says all owners should hear it a certain way but why not ask and make sure? I and others have done so quite a few times and, on occasion, helped to get a better result. No harm or intention of being critical /passing judgement or anything like that.

post #308 of 500
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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
 

Don't take it the wrong way. It doesn't matter where you end up. The more important thing is to know why. If they don't work well with one's gear or ears that is fine. But best to find out why. What if they can be improved or if something is off. His reports of that much lack of treble and /or treble detail sounds really off. If my pair had that I could see saying the same thing vs. the VSD1 which do lack some treble and treble detail but should cause they go to 22,000 on the treble and not 30,000 like their bigger brother GR07.

 

Trying to be helpful cause if there is something amiss maybe it can be rectified. Not being a jerk that says all owners should hear it a certain way but why not ask and make sure? I and others have done so quite a few times and, on occasion, helped to get a better result. No harm or intention of being critical /passing judgement or anything like that.

 

Dude if you have any tracks that have listenable sections between 20k and 30k you're listening to some wild music.  Have you tried to listen to tones that high?  Can you even hear tones that high?  

 

Your assertion is like saying "well Honda says the SI has 250 whp and the standard Civic has 225 whp so the SI should go faster".  There's just so much more to it that making that claim based on two numbers is ridiculous.  Tips matter, insertion matters, source matters, file matters, surroundings matter, just to name a few things.  

post #309 of 500
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Dude if you have any tracks that have listenable sections between 20k and 30k you're listening to some wild music.  Have you tried to listen to tones that high?  Can you even hear tones that high?  

 

Your assertion is like saying "well Honda says the SI has 250 whp and the standard Civic has 225 whp so the SI should go faster".  There's just so much more to it that making that claim based on two numbers is ridiculous.  Tips matter, insertion matters, source matters, file matters, surroundings matter, just to name a few things.  

+1 on that. Quoting specs is something I would expect from someone who has never been into audio stuff not a seasoned head-fier. No one should buy into what's written on the package to judge an iem/headphone. The VSD1LE is also quoted to have the same extension as gr07 but it's treble rolls off earlier than gr07's proving my point. And no one can hear that high. Most people hear up to around 17-18k and that threshold gets lower and lower with aging. I always get a good laugh hearing those versus' gaming headphones comparisons where they state the ridiculously high frequency response as a reason to buy this or that gear. 

And also I think a lot of people confuse a more pronounced treble with better treble extension. The highs can be laid back and extend a lot more on one iem than on another one but just because the latter has a more pronounced or aggressive treble people start talking about treble extension and lack of detail while in reality the former might have the better treble but because a lot of headphones and iems have very boosted treble and people have become used to that, stuff that actually has more natural and realistic treble is usually described as lacking in extension, quantity or quality.

post #310 of 500

The MA750 is such a well packaged product...

RHA is highly recommended for people who are after great value.

post #311 of 500

I'm torn about the packaging.  It looks good, the overall quality is good, but the way in which the phones are tucked into the plastic holder led to nicks and kinks on the wire where they met the plastic.  I was very careful taking them out - it was the way they were put into the packaging that damaged them.  

post #312 of 500
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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
 

 

I have the MA750(non-i) on hand right now. Is your 750 defective maybe? Read the other day about the treble comment. Now about the VSD1 which I have had which is outclassed by the 750. I sold my VSD1 in favor of my Senn PCX 95 which was better and the RHA beats the PCX worse than the PCX beat the VSD1.

 

Even Eric says the RHA are closer to his beloved M200 than he thought they would be. I concur and say that they are closer to my SA7 limited than I thought they would be. The VDS1 is a budget phone that can play close to some mid-levels but the RHA750 is a mid-tier that plays with some top tiers. IME, the VSD1 doesn't play with any top tiers unless they are really under-performing. Outside of the the VSD1 LE which I haven't heard, I wouldn't make the "save some money and you can get away with this instead of that" recommendation in this case.

 

Not trying to be a jerk, but since your MA750 experience is quite a bit less satisfying than quite a few others, you might want to get to the bottom of why you aren't in the majority. Maybe you can get more out of them and be happier with them. Or might be possible that they just don't work for you. Just seems like something could be off.

 

Directly comparing them side by side is a bit weird as the VSD1 is impossible to wear without swapping left and right sides which makes comparing slightly harder. I can tell the 750 have more natural timbre with less grain but I'm not so sure that I would call the technical abilities in another league. It's a bit better though.

My pair sound like I'm hearing other describe in reviews so I doubt they are defective.

post #313 of 500

A question for everyone: I received the RHA MA750is from Amazon.com (US site) last week. The cable cinch is really hard to operate because of how sticky/tight it is, and today, when I was trying to adjust it, the left part of the cable snapped. Needless to say, I'm left with a dead pair. I've already contacted RHA support, but can anyone tell me how their customer support is? And how exactly do I return/exchange the product?

 

They also asked me for a receipt number, but since I bought the pair from Amazon, I don't exactly have a receipt number (and since I rarely buy anything online, I'm not entirely used to dealing with such things). I listed all alphanumerical series of digits on my packing slip, plus the order number. Just to clarify, though, which set of digits is the receipt number? Thanks!

post #314 of 500
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Originally Posted by pieman3141 View Post
 

A question for everyone: I received the RHA MA750is from Amazon.com (US site) last week. The cable cinch is really hard to operate because of how sticky/tight it is, and today, when I was trying to adjust it, the left part of the cable snapped. Needless to say, I'm left with a dead pair. I've already contacted RHA support, but can anyone tell me how their customer support is? And how exactly do I return/exchange the product?

 

They also asked me for a receipt number, but since I bought the pair from Amazon, I don't exactly have a receipt number (and since I rarely buy anything online, I'm not entirely used to dealing with such things). I listed all alphanumerical series of digits on my packing slip, plus the order number. Just to clarify, though, which set of digits is the receipt number? Thanks!


If you go to "your account" on the top of the Amazon page >> "your orders"

 

You can scroll to see the order #

 

There you can also click Invoice and get it printed, which can act as a receipt.

post #315 of 500
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If you go to "your account" on the top of the Amazon page >> "your orders"

 

You can scroll to see the order #

 

There you can also click Invoice and get it printed, which can act as a receipt.


Thanks! It seems I got the right number in the right field, then.

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