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Originally Posted by BeHappy View Post

Thanks for the replies.
Assuming I will stay with my ipod classic - what impat should be expected when changing from 530 to 846?

You would expect the impact differences I mention earlier between 535 and 846 even if you are using ipod classic.
Edited by Audiowood - 2/8/14 at 10:07am
post #977 of 4784
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Originally Posted by useitifuhaveit View Post

I was at first hesitant in buying the 846 because I thought it would be like or just a little better then the 535. Some 5 years ago I bought the 530 which at that time were rated very high. I loved it and it sounded better then all what I has heard before.Then years later the 535 came out and I bought that too and wondered why did I buy it because it wasnt that much different. Now the 846 came out costing a lot more then the 530 and the 535. Well after trying hard no t to buy it because I have been happy with the 535 and various custom made earphones I went and tried the 846. I heard it with the Blue filter and was nice but was not sure about them. Later on I tried the 846 again with the White filter and wow it did sound good even though I usually like my earphones closer to the warm side. I believe on the White filter they did sound bright  well they did until the track had bass in it and then I heard and felt the bass and the warmth. Well I bought the 846 and yes I like them alot. In a way it is like having 3 top notch earphones all in one. Yes the highs are stronger and the bass is stronger when the trach requires it to be. Meds are freer and sounding great. It is like the Meds are free to do what ut can do without carrying the treble and bass on its back.

I agree, I have read the discusssion thread about some user reporting that the 535 is brighter than the 530, I bought it and regret it. To me the e500, se 530 and se535 all sound the same with hardly any noticeable diff. I also thought that the 846 would be another small diff from 535. It's only when Jude step in and comment on the white filter that caught my attention and this time I wasn't dissapointeed. The 846 has made huge sonic differences from 535 and sadly the price too..
post #978 of 4784
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post


I hate to respectfully disagree with my colleagues but unless you plan on upgrading your music to high resolution your iPod will be great as a source. The benchmark tests demonstrate it has a ruler flat output with little or no distortion.

As I said before, you should upgrade your music from 128kbps to at least 256 or 320kbps or lossless. If you decide down the road to go to high resolution music THEN look into upgrading your digital audio player.

I completely agree.  The source should be anyone's initial focus.  I doesn't matter how good your IEMs or HPs are if the listening material is lacking.

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I just picked up a pair of these, and after all the rave reviews here, I have to admit I'm (at least initially) a little disappointed. I'm using the round, plastic tips because these have always served me well in the past with my other IEMs, and I usually haven't been able to get a good stable seal with comply/foam type tips

 

I've tried the blue (balanced), and white(brighter) filters, settling on the latter.  I've tried different sources ranging from a sansa fuze, ipod touch, rezound cell phone, and even the Burson Conductor, with greatly varying results, but to my ears, they all seem to suffer, to one degree or another, from a bit of mid-bass bloom.  Nothing horrible, just not as clean as I had hoped.

 

I know these things are very sensitive to tips and tip insertion, so I guess I'll have to try some other tips, though I know I'm getting a good seal with ones I'm using.  Anyone have any recommendations for me?

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One thing that could have an effect on the sound from the sources you listed is the output impedance. The SE846 are a 9ohm IEM, and I dont think any of those sources you listed have a 1ohm or less output impedance. That particular detail can color/change the balanced sound that the SE846 has us all in love with.
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With such a steep decline in the bass response:

I agree with Revolutionz above it has to be the output impedance of the sources. As for a good ear tip the Westone Star Tip is fantastic.
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Originally Posted by revolutionz View Post

One thing that could have an effect on the sound from the sources you listed is the output impedance. The SE846 are a 9ohm IEM, and I dont think any of those sources you listed have a 1ohm or less output impedance. That particular detail can color/change the balanced sound that the SE846 has us all in love with.

You might have something there.... I just put an O2 amp if front of the headphones (I think these have an output impedance of about .5 ohm).  Big difference.  May have to drop back to the balanced filter.

 

Thanks!

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The SE846s out of my Macbook Pro with Audirvana is like....  :eek:    Nice little bump in clarity over even my new ZX1! Sweeeeeeettttt..... 

 

The Sony's bass may reach a touch lower though.


Edited by cn11 - 2/8/14 at 1:34pm
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I've also noticed that the cable helps and the source is super important. If I run a lower quality source, you can reallllly hear the low quality of the source, which could come across as a not-so-good IEM. Just when I was feeling blue, I swapped to a high quality source, custom OCC cable, external DAC via usb, custom tips and BAM. It was like night and day. I feel like my 530's sounded good (but not 846 good) regardless of the source. 846 sounds not-as-good on lower quality sources but  amazing on higher quality stuff. Easy choice for me, stick to higher quality. :-D

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Originally Posted by fonsecaj View Post
 

Disappointingly, the buzz in the right bud is now happening with this new pair.   Production on these is 12/13/13.

 

Unlike the first pair, I was able to get it to stop by reseating the right side.  I'm not sure what it was exactly that action did to stop it, ie a problem with seal, moving or putting pressure on whatever (if anything) is loose, or what.  Regardless, it came back within a couple of minutes.

 

Doc, did you get your replacement yet?  If so, are they ok?  At this point, I'm going to experiment with these through the weekend, with other tips and moving them around.  I haven't completely discounted that it's my ear that's defective, but it doesn't happen with any of  my other IEMs.  

 

I don't know if I'll be interested in trying it a 3rd time with the 846, even though I do think they sound great (other than the buzz).  


That is the same production date as mine. Shure definitely had a bad batch and it is probably why amazon has pulled them. Because of that, I decided against getting an immediate replacement. The odds are too great for getting a bad set. ....Then again, amazon is great about returns, so there is no liabiity with trying to get a good set! I decided to wait a week or so and re-order. Sam Ash only has the 12/13/13 batches right now. I loved the sound quality so much that I really want a new set soon!!

I'm going to keep an eye on the Amazon listing and see when they start selling them again.

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Originally Posted by docjohnny View Post
 


That is the same production date as mine. Shure definitely had a bad batch and it is probably why amazon has pulled them. Because of that, I decided against getting an immediate replacement. The odds are too great for getting a bad set. ....Then again, amazon is great about returns, so there is no liabiity with trying to get a good set! I decided to wait a week or so and re-order. Sam Ash only has the 12/13/13 batches right now. I loved the sound quality so much that I really want a new set soon!!

I'm going to keep an eye on the Amazon listing and see when they start selling them again.

This pair is definitely doing the buzzing thing.  What a disappointment.  Like you I really love how they sound, but I'm feeling a bit burned with the QC on a flagship product.  Even thought Amazon is good with returns, the refund on return shipping isn't anywhere near what it actually costs to ship with $1000 declared value insurance.  They didn't do the prepaid label for this as an option and I think they only gave me $5.50 back.  Then it takes a full week to get another one with processing and shipping time.

 

Oh, well....

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Originally Posted by fonsecaj View Post

This pair is definitely doing the buzzing thing.  What a disappointment.  Like you I really love how they sound, but I'm feeling a bit burned with the QC on a flagship product.  Even thought Amazon is good with returns, the refund on return shipping isn't anywhere near what it actually costs to ship with $1000 declared value insurance.  They didn't do the prepaid label for this as an option and I think they only gave me $5.50 back.  Then it takes a full week to get another one with processing and shipping time.

Oh, well....

Why do you not call Shure and return it to them directly? Shure will overnight ship a replacement at their cost. Sam Ash is an authorized retailer. You have a much better chance of not getting a defective replacement.
post #988 of 4784
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post


Why do you not call Shure and return it to them directly? Shure will overnight ship a replacement at their cost. Sam Ash is an authorized retailer. You have a much better chance of not getting a defective replacement.


Are you sure about that? I would hate to be in a situation where they say, "ship it to us and we will take a look at it".....then get the replacement 6 weeks later!!

post #989 of 4784
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Originally Posted by BobJS View Post
 

I've tried the blue (balanced), and white(brighter) filters, settling on the latter.  I've tried different sources ranging from a sansa fuze, ipod touch, rezound cell phone, and even the Burson Conductor, with greatly varying results, but to my ears, they all seem to suffer, to one degree or another, from a bit of mid-bass bloom.  Nothing horrible, just not as clean as I had hoped.

 

Conductor has a 0.4ohm output impedance.  And yeah 10dB boost in the bass can get bloomy, imagine that ;)  More or less the LCD-2 of iems. Something like a JH13fp would be the middle ground you would likely prefer.  Tips wise I like the Shure black foam for sound, Comply for comfort.  Because of how they sit in my ear I have to use the large tips where in most other iems I need a medium to get a good seal.

post #990 of 4784
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Originally Posted by docjohnny View Post


Are you sure about that? I would hate to be in a situation where they say, "ship it to us and we will take a look at it".....then get the replacement 6 weeks later!!

All the folks here, including Truckdriver, whose right IEM died sent them into Shure directly and received new ones in a week. Shure probably has the best customer service in the audio world. I bent my blue filters back in September. I called Shure, then emailed a picture of my receipt from Earphone Solutions I received new blue filters from Shure in 3 days at no cost to me.
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