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post #916 of 16760
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Originally Posted by fonsecaj View Post
 

I had to send back my 846s due to a defect and was wondering if anyone else had the same issue.

 

In the right earphone only, I'd get an intermittent buzzing noise.  It seemed like a sympathetic vibration and not noise/hum or actual distortion of the signal.

I tried different cables and filters, and reseating the filters to no avail.  When it was doing it, I could make it repeat with certain tracks that seemed to have the program material in the right range.  Then for no reason it'd stop happening and those same tracks would play clean.

 

 I've been using them for 2 weeks and have REALLY enjoyed them and if they were $500 I'd probably just stick with them and put up with the buzzing.  For a grand they should be perfect (at least build-wise).

 

I called Shure USA and logged the problem and returned them to Amazon today.  Sad to see them go and looking forward to getting the replacements hopefully soon.  The batch was from the end of November.

 

I'd seen someone else on Amazon that had the same exact problem, but I don't recall any mention of it here.

 

I use water to lubricate my triple flange hybrid tip to insert it. The water eventually dries and the seal is tight.  I have to peal it out when I want to remove it. Throughout the day, I can eat and do whatever and my earpieces stay firmly in place for hours and hours. However, this past week I've been questioning the stability of the seal of my right side earpiece because (for very brief periods) I thought it sounded out of balance. When it happens, I find myself touching and adjusting it (but it doesn't move). A few times I took it out, re-lubed it, and reset it. I wonder now (after reading the above post) if the right side is showing a new sign of a forthcoming problem. I haven't heard any unusual noise (or buzzing) though. It would be just my luck, (that now that I've found Viper4Android [V4A] and things are sounding better than ever) that a problem would develop. My issue hasn't happen today at all and (knock on wood), I hope it was just an anomaly.

 

Since installing V4A on my Galaxy S2 phone (it seems strange to note that) the blacks are really black (i.e., the quiet spots in and between tracks are really quiet). The next sound (after the quiet) seems to come out of nowhere. The S2 (with V4A) makes my iPod Touch 5g sound artificial, congested, and quite noticeable lacking extension and sharpness.


Edited by truckdriver - 2/4/14 at 6:53am
post #917 of 16760
Truck,

I am happy you found your sound with your new 846. Did the deep bass return after "burn in"?
post #918 of 16760
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post

Truck,

I am happy you found your sound with your new 846. Did the deep bass return after "burn in"?

 

Hey Spook,

 

I've given up on trying to judge the "burn in", because too many variables have changed. The bass of the 846 is deeper than ever because of V4A. I wish they made a version for IOS. I think the iPod Touch 5g (better hardware) would be as good (if not better than Galaxy devices) with V4A's level of sound processing. It's like you can dial in the degree of transparency without hurting other stuff.

 

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post #919 of 16760
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Originally Posted by truckdriver View Post
 

 

I use water to lubricate my triple flange hybrid tip to insert it. The water eventually dries and the seal is tight.  I have to peal it out when I want to remove it. Throughout the day, I can eat and do whatever and my earpieces stay firmly in place for hours and hours. However, this past week I've been questioning the stability of the seal of my right side earpiece because (for very brief periods) I thought it sounded out of balance. When it happens, I find myself touching and adjusting it (but it doesn't move). A few times I took it out, re-lubed it, and reset it. I wonder now (after reading the above post) if the right side is showing a new sign of a forthcoming problem. I haven't heard any unusual noise (or buzzing) though. It would be just my luck, (that now that I've found Viper4Android [V4A] and things are sounding better than ever) that a problem would develop. My issue hasn't happen today at all and (knock on wood), I hope it was just an anomaly.

 

Since installing V4A on my Galaxy S2 phone (it seems strange to note that) the blacks are really black (i.e., the quiet spots in and between tracks are really quiet). The next sound (after the quiet) seems to come out of nowhere. The S2 (with V4A) makes my iPod Touch 5g sound artificial, congested, and quite noticeable lacking extension and sharpness.

I hope not, Truck.  Hate to see you have to get a 3rd pair.

post #920 of 16760
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Originally Posted by fonsecaj View Post
 

I hope not, Truck.  Hate to see you have to get a 3rd pair.

 

Yeah, I hope I don't need a 3rd 846 either, because that would be disillusioning.

 

I was listening (just now) to the song by Kevon Edmonds (that I posted earlier) on the Note 3 (using Poweramp and no V4A) and it sounds like normal bass with only a little (itty) bit of the deep part with no rumbling. It is ever so slight. It was funny yesterday, because on the S2 (with V4A up +8db at 40hz**) that deep rumbling was some kind of loud and scared me. I jumped and was looking around because I thought something was happening exterior to the earphones. The difference between the Note 3 and S2 (with V4A) is crazy. Now I think Poweramp is expendable. I'm going to try out other software players and see if this mega-bass is still present on the S2. And the clarity difference is readily apparent.

 

**I thought +8 db at 40hz didn't do much because it didn't seem to drag up any other range of bass. I listened to song after song before one came in that took advantage of the setting.

post #921 of 16760
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Originally Posted by truckdriver View Post

Hey Spook,

I've given up on trying to judge the "burn in", because too many variables have changed. The bass of the 846 is deeper than ever because of V4A. I wish they made a version for IOS. I think the iPod Touch 5g (better hardware) would be as good (if not better than Galaxy devices) with V4A's level of sound processing. It's like you can dial in the degree of transparency without hurting other stuff.

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Truck my friend,

I think both of us are trying to achieve the same goals but from opposite directions. We both are looking for greater clarity, a wider soundstage and the deepest bass possible. While you looked at software (V4A), I am too much an Apple devote (slave) so I looked at hardware (silver cables and a balanced amp) to achieve our goals. I know I have reached my end and I hope you have also.
post #922 of 16760
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post


Truck my friend,

I think both of us are trying to achieve the same goals but from opposite directions. We both are looking for greater clarity, a wider soundstage and the deepest bass possible. While you looked at software (V4A), I am too much an Apple devote (slave) so I looked at hardware (silver cables and a balanced amp) to achieve our goals. I know I have reached my end and I hope you have also.

 

Exactly, Spook, on the different approaches to the same goal.

 

But c'mon Spook, we are not at the end. We will both be here in a few months with AK240s, Hugos, and Roxannes---- exalting.:wink_face:  Well, maybe not those specific components, but we are still here for a reason. I remember a while back reading a farewell post from a guy who bought a DX100 to go with his Heir 8.A. He wrote that that was his endgame combo. I was envious, not because I couldn't easily buy the exact same combo. I was simply envious of the notion of an endgame feeling. Nowadays, it's even harder because of the increased pace of releases of the “next big thing”.

 

Seriously though, I'm going to go slow. I'm starting to buy into Shure's claim of “true subwoofer sound”. I've got my earphones for a while (as long as it holds up). I haven't even switched filters since I got the new 846.

post #923 of 16760
Satan, get behind me.

Please Truck let me delude myself into believing that I am done :-) I hope Shure sticks with a nice 3 year product cycle so that I will not have to buy the SE9** any time soon.

I will admit the features on the AK240 are great. Thankfully, iRiver is insane when it comes to pricing and if I bought one I would feel like the biggest sucker. As for the Roxanne, I will take the 846's subwoofer over a across the range bass boost and a cable that doesn't break if I sneeze at it.
post #924 of 16760
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post

Satan, get behind me.

Please Truck let me delude myself into believing that I am done :-) I hope Shure sticks with a nice 3 year product cycle so that I will not have to buy the SE9** any time soon.

I will admit the features on the AK240 are great. Thankfully, iRiver is insane when it comes to pricing and if I bought one I would feel like the biggest sucker. As for the Roxanne, I will take the 846's subwoofer over a across the range bass boost and a cable that doesn't break if I sneeze at it.

 

Hopefully Roxanne's phantom “pipe wrench” issue will be solved before the first batch of universals arrive at retailers.

 

And, Shure has got to get with it and turn that 3 year flagship cycle into one year unveiling the SE1068 (for $2500) with dual subwoofer thingys per earpiece with a +25db gain control (to blow your freakin' eyeballs out). They can't let the cellphone companies have all the fun. Shure has to put us on a monthly billing cycle for a yearly update plan, right?:blink:

 

Yeah, I hear ya Spook. I'd like to think it's over too.....What should we call our support group, gadget buyer's anonymous?

post #925 of 16760
Sign me up for the Shure Plan for the SE1068. +25db bass gain sounds about right to me with quad subwoofers. I want a bass response that makes my eyeballs melt like the Nazi in Raiders of the Lost Arc.

As for the name of our support group, I like AA (Audiofiles Anonymous). The problem is where will we find sponsors to stop us purchasing new equipment. Head-Fi is filled with enablers and codependant addicts like us.

On a semi serious note, Truck do you find your musical tastes changing with the SE846? I find myself seeking out more bass centric music and ever since the SE535 good vocals are more important with the midrange beauty of Shures.
post #926 of 16760
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post

Sign me up for the Shure Plan for the SE1068. +25db bass gain sounds about right to me with quad subwoofers. I want a bass response that makes my eyeballs melt like the Nazi in Raiders of the Lost Arc.

As for the name of our support group, I like AA (Audiofiles Anonymous). The problem is where will we find sponsors to stop us purchasing new equipment. Head-Fi is filled with enablers and codependant addicts like us.

On a semi serious note, Truck do you find your musical tastes changing with the SE846? I find myself seeking out more bass centric music and ever since the SE535 good vocals are more important with the midrange beauty of Shures.

If you're into jazz, try Brian Bromberg 'wood' album for a bass 'torture test'.
post #927 of 16760
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Originally Posted by vlach View Post

If you're into jazz, try Brian Bromberg 'wood' album for a bass 'torture test'.

Any particular track off "Wood" I should sample?
post #928 of 16760
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Originally Posted by vlach View Post


If you're into jazz, try Brian Bromberg 'wood' album for a bass 'torture test'.

I love jazz and that sounded great, although I don't know if I would call that a "torture test".

 

There are two songs I always use to test the bass of earphones.  

I use Dracula by the Gorillaz to see how low the bass can extend on earphones. I cant even hear the thuds with some earphone (which is bad), but with proper low enough response you can hear the satisfying lows.

 

I also use Some Wobbles by Ephixa...(this one may not be some peoples cup of tea) If the earphones have a powerful bass impact, my jaw drops when listening to this song. If the bass is weak, the song sounds underwhelming and thin.   


Edited by ottotron - 2/5/14 at 1:18pm
post #929 of 16760
Excellent choices. My suggestions are "Open Car" or "Blackest Eyes" by Porcupine Tree off their live album Arriving Somewhere... The 5.1 version is great. With headphones lacking a real deep end the bass drum and bass guitar get muddled together.
post #930 of 16760
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post

Excellent choices. My suggestions are "Open Car" or "Blackest Eyes" by Porcupine Tree off their live album Arriving Somewhere... The 5.1 version is great. With headphones lacking a real deep end the bass drum and bass guitar get muddled together.

I'm digging Blackest Eyes!  I realized that the streaming quality from youtube is still pretty underwhelming even in HD videos. I was listening to my songs off my iPhone and the same song from youtube and there is a big difference in quality..

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