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post #811 of 5714

Can someone help me here?

 

1.   Is SE846 just as forward sounding as SE535?

 

2.   I never had a problem with SE535 treble (with a pinch of EQ).  Is SE846 same as SE535 or more revealing?

 

From what I have read it seems..."yes" and "yes".

post #812 of 5714

Got my 846 back after just over a week, that's what I call responsive customer service! Icing on the cake, the replaced both drivers (only right one had died) and the faulty cable. Seems a lot of early batch people are having the same issue as another fellow was bringing his 846 in when I took mine back, same dreadful end of the right driver.

 

As for the sound? Just as I remember from last time I had it in my ends: bit of bass overbloom from the iPhone 5 and about perfect from the iPad 2. I think I will get me an iPod touch 64G when the new model is out this year... The sound is that satisfying that I'd sell my home rig without regret if that was necessary. It's unnecessary at this time though ;).

 

Many thanks Shure!

 

Arnaud.

post #813 of 5714
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

Can someone help me here?

1.   Is SE846 just as forward sounding as SE535?

2.   I never had a problem with SE535 treble (with a pinch of EQ).  Is SE846 same as SE535 or more revealing?

From what I have read it seems..."yes" and "yes".

1. No, the mids are a touch less forward. But like your second question, with the greater clarity, the 846 are more balanced tonally and so that may account for the slightly less forward mids. The mids still remain the Shure house signature.

2. Yes, the 846 is more revealing than the 535 especially with the white (bright) filter but it could also be because the overall clarity is greater with the 846 compared to the 535.
post #814 of 5714

I'm currently traveling China for work... due to come back to States starting tomorrow. I fully intend to pick up a pair of SE846 in the HK airport if the price is standard retail (if they have not jacked it up). It's been a tough trip, and I deserve to reward myself with a little toy for the long haul flight. It should pair nicely with my recently purchased Sony ZX1.

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Originally Posted by cn11 View Post
 

I'm currently traveling China for work... due to come back to States starting tomorrow. I fully intend to pick up a pair of SE846 in the HK airport if the price is standard retail (if they have not jacked it up). It's been a tough trip, and I deserve to reward myself with a little toy for the long haul flight. It should pair nicely with my recently purchased Sony ZX1.

Indeed it does...very nicely.

post #816 of 5714

If you can find the SE846 at HKG airport, they should not cost you much more than if you buy a pair in the city. Go for it.

post #817 of 5714
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post
 

Indeed it does...very nicely.

 

I haven't read that many post about NSW-ZX1 with SE846, output impedance (no spec anywhere) is a non issue then?

 

Might be interresting if the ZX1 is really good (significantly over iPod Touch 5G), as on the go, the Note3 + FiiO E18 is a bit bulky and it's a bit of a pain to have those rubbers impeding smartphone operation.


Edited by davidmolliere - 1/20/14 at 12:07am
post #818 of 5714
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Originally Posted by davidmolliere View Post

I haven't read that many post about NSW-ZX1 with SE846, output impedance (no spec anywhere) is a non issue then?

Might be interresting if the ZX1 is really good (significantly over iPod Touch 5G), as on the go, the Note3 + FiiO E18 is a bit bulky and it's a bit of a pain to have those rubbers impeding smartphone operation.
The ZX1 is cold so the warmth of the 846 balanced the whole thing. Lovely.
post #819 of 5714
Has anyone tried these without any filter in the nozzle? Just remove the filter and screw the nozzle back on...
I think they sound brighter without any filters in them, even more so than with the white filters.
Edited by ottotron - 1/20/14 at 1:40pm
post #820 of 5714
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

The ZX1 is cold so the warmth of the 846 balanced the whole thing. Lovely.

 

Interresting, I would have said warm filter aside, the 846 are not that warm, but maybe my experience with Final Audio products as tainted my perspective :P

Knowing ZX1 is cold (not neutral ?) means it's probably not for me.

post #821 of 5714
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Originally Posted by davidmolliere View Post
 

 

Interresting, I would have said warm filter aside, the 846 are not that warm, but maybe my experience with Final Audio products as tainted my perspective :P

Knowing ZX1 is cold (not neutral ?) means it's probably not for me.

 

Yeah, I agree.

 

Even compared to the Shure E5c, the 846 is not warm. The 846 is too bright with the Galaxy S1, but the E5c sounds just right (or thereabout) with the S1. That is why I may try a new source (with the 846) that is warmer than any I currently own. The FiiO X3 is not the one. Perhaps, the forthcoming HifiMAN HM802 will do the trick although I would much prefer an Android based DAP because of the potential innovations in software players/programs (like DTS Headphone X or similar product for soundstage improvements). I certainly can't expect all my music to be re-mastered binaurally.

 

EDIT: I guess instead of "forthcoming", I should have written already available HM-802.


Edited by truckdriver - 1/20/14 at 2:51pm
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Pardon the double posting but, I re-read what I wrote and realized I made “bright” sound like the opposite of “warm” (I know that's not the case). I was mixing issues, my bad.....

post #823 of 5714
Truck,

How goes the burn in with your new 846s? Is the sound now like your original 846s?
post #824 of 5714
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Originally Posted by truckdriver View Post

 

Yeah, I agree.

 

Even compared to the Shure E5c, the 846 is not warm. The 846 is too bright with the Galaxy S1, but the E5c sounds just right (or thereabout) with the S1. That is why I may try a new source (with the 846) that is warmer than any I currently own. The FiiO X3 is not the one. Perhaps, the forthcoming HifiMAN HM802 will do the trick although I would much prefer an Android based DAP because of the potential innovations in software players/programs (like DTS Headphone X or similar product for soundstage improvements). I certainly can't expect all my music to be re-mastered binaurally.

 

EDIT: I guess instead of "forthcoming", I should have written already available HM-802.

 

One of the winning combination for my taste is a warm source with the bright filter, I know that people are saying that FiiO E18 is not warm per say, but I find it pairs well (that is until I get into really high end source but then I'll go all the way to balanced amp :P).

 

I like the warm filter with more analytical source (Sabre powered AudioQuest Dragonfly usb DAC fall in there for me). 

 

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Originally Posted by truckdriver View Post
 

Pardon the double posting but, I re-read what I wrote and realized I made “bright” sound like the opposite of “warm” (I know that's not the case). I was mixing issues, my bad.....

 

On top of this, I think the SE846 filters are inaptly named and more subtle than their name indicate. Bright is detailed in a non harsh, non analytical non fatiguing way with a very defined and powerful low end. Warm is not a fuzzy mess devoid of details, it has less bass and (IMHO) feels like it has more mids / lusher mids and overall a more laid back character but it has great detail nonetheless.

 

I feel the bright filter has the best soundstage and instrument separation.

 

I keep trying back the neutral filter but to me it's neither neutral, nor is it bringing the best of the SE846.

Maybe one day I'll hear them right. Who knows, those IEMs seem to have a life of their own as you grow into them / as they burn in (pick your choice, I think a mix of both).

post #825 of 5714

Spook, the problem I'm having trying to draw a definitive conclusion (on “the old” vs “the new”) is due to some of my external factors that have changed. I'm in a 2014 truck that is quieter. I was in this new 2014 shortly before the old 846 died, but most of the songs I'm trying to compare from memory were using old 846 and old loud truck-- to new 846, new truck. I'm hearing everything a little better at lower volume in the new truck. So, the comparison is not going to workout.

 

Davidmolliere, I tend to judge warmth across the mids. I have bassy earphones and headphones that I find cold (UE Superfi 5EB and AKG K26P come to mind). So I suppose that (for me) the thickness of note that carries across the lower mids for vocals and instruments is where I think of warmth (or lack thereof). Then again, I came to this forum with different interpretations of words (like colored,  for example...).

 

I went back and did a brief concentrated A/B (just now) between the Note 3--846 and Galaxy S1--E5c. The 846 is as warm but the E5c's big sound tainted my judgment.

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