Is it wrong to say that the Shure SE846 is basically a Shure SE535 with a big bass?
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Shure SE846 Impressions Thread - Page 51
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I would say yes. I've never extensively listened to the 535's, but I own the 425's and 215's, and the 846's blow them out of the water. When I bought my 425's, I actually liked the sound of them over the 535's, but I only listened to the each for about 10 min. From others impressions, I would say it is a more detailed and full sound throughout the entire spectrum. You almost have to listen to them to understand.
Ubs, pardon my impertinence but that is like saying isn't a Porsche 911 is just a faster Porsche Boxster. Having owned both the 535 and 846 and liking both, the sound of the 846 is like an entirely new IEM.
If looking at frequency response alone... yes. That said, the 535 is a single mid/treble ba and a dual ba for bass. The 846 is a single ba for mids and another for treble and a dual unit for bass. But it is Shure all the way as evident by the target response. Biggest gain, other than bass... much faster than the 535. No mud here.
The black filter does provide a warmer (slightly thicker) note thru the mids and highs with a little less emphasis in the bass region. I called it the 535 filter back when I installed it on my previous 846.That doesn't mean you can't turn the bass back up from your source.
Agreed. The black filter doesn't just reduce the highs further. Seems like it also makes the bass more mellow, leading to an overall more relaxed sound that is polite in the treble and the bass. At least that was my impression in the five minutes I listened to it. Personally I only stick to the blue or white filters, unless I'm using these IEMs with a source that cannot control the bass on them, in which case the black filter has a good use.
I keep going over all the available choices in TOTL universal IEMs & I keep coming back to the SE846. Hopefully I'll make a buying decision soon so I stop spending so much time here!!!
What I thought I remembered hearing (using the black filter with my old 846) was a little more treble sparkle from cymbals and bells (than the white or blue filter). That seemed counter-intuitive and led me to look at the frequency response charts. That is where it seems the HeadRoom chart differs from InnerFidelity's. The InnerFidelity chart shows a higher peak around 10kHz (for the black filter) than it shows for the white and blue filters (blue being the lowest).
I haven't installed the black filter on my new 846 yet, but I believe the InnerFidelity charts over the HeadRoom chart because InnerFidelity shows a raised line at the mids (and lower mids) which I also thought was true. The HeadRoom chart for the black filter just looks inaccurate to me (in the mids and highs).
On the other hand, it does look like the white filter is raw (as in, next to nothing) and one would assume it would produce the highest peaks.
Edited by truckdriver - 1/14/14 at 8:16am
Before people get too far ahead of themselves comparing IF to HR I would remind them that Tyll does the measurements for both. From the IF about page...
"I purchased HeadRoom's headphone measurement system with the agreement that I'd continue measuring their headphones as needed"
I do believe they have slightly different compensation curves though. Also IF posts all position measurements while HR uses one.
Our measurements are made on the same system as Tyll makes his. The difference being the compensation curve applied as well as measuring square waves and distortion using different frequencies. Our uncompensated measurements should look nearly identical to IF's raw measurements with the exception that removing and replacing the headphone can cause differences.
If I wouldn't have Tralucent 1+2, I would say 846 is the perfect UIEM on the go. And I am talking about the sound quality only here. In every other aspect: fit, comfort, build, cable connectors, the 846 is top notch. I wish it would have this crazy wide soundstage and treble extension of 1+2s. When, it would be perfect earphones. Some time ago, I bought FitEars 334 and sold them next day, because Tralucents are much better sound wise. In my opinion , Shure 846 sounds better when 334s.
If you are looking for best sounding UIEM, 1+2 is the way to go.
If you are looking for comfort, but can live without this treble extension and widest soundstage, the Shure 846 is on the top of your list.
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