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Wonder if anyone ever experienced issues when changing filters, I have been doing that and consistently succeeded except tonight it took me like 10 minutes to get it right on the right driver. What happens is when I screw it back on it doesn't go all the way (I always check if my nail can come in between the screw and driver). I never force of course (wouldn't want to strain the screw) and re-position the nozzle a notch (the red marking on the right one is less clear than the left one btw). The very few times that it happened was on the right. I assume it has to do with physical micro-adjustments being a bit off on the right one (still a high precision thing here).


Curious if you ever had the same issue. 

Hope it doesn't become a real issue in the long run...

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Yes, David I had the same problem with the left IEM. I found the secret is not to try to screw it with your fingers but use the included tool. That way your fingers do not knock the nozzle out of alignment. I hope this helps.
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Looks nice, how does it improve the sound compare to the stock cable?

Without opening the whole silver cables debate I will share MY impressions. With the OCC silver cable, I felt they lifted the veil from the music that I never know was there. From top to bottom, the sound became tighter, more coherent with greater clarity and PRaT. For those looking to get the absolute best out their 846, I would definitely recommend upgraded cables from Headphone Lounge.

There are a couple of appreciation threads here on Head-Fi if you want to read other impressions.
Edited by spook76 - 1/4/14 at 4:17pm
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Yes, David I had the same problem with the left IEM. I found the secret is not to try to screw it with your fingers but use the included tool. That way your fingers do not knock the nozzle out of alignment. I hope this helps.

 

Thanks for the quick feedback!

 

Actually I found that not knocking the nozzle out of alignment is not that easy with the tool (actually easier if you separate it from the filter container, more freedom of movement). I kind of postion the nozzle, then gently put the screw checking it's engaging unskewed, give it a sping from the side with the hand no effort applied just let the free sping go and when it stops pick the tool and finish it.

 

I wish the course would have been less important so that you could actually screw that without doing any stop and go where things can misalign. I think your own positon when changing filter is important you need to be sitting comfortably, above the working plane, and with a well lit environment.

 

No matter what happens, stay calm and never force anything :)

 

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Without opening the whole silver cables debate I will share MY impressions. With the OCC silver cable, I felt they lifted the veil from the music that I never know was there. From top to bottom, the sound became tighter, more coherent with greater clarity and PRaT. For those looking to get the absolute best out their 846, I would definitely recommend upgraded cables from Headphone Lounge.

There are a couple of appreciation threads here on Head-Fi if you want to read other impressions.
 
I'll check if they ship to Europe then, and I might go for it. Those silver cable are pretty fragile (so on the go would be exluded) or am I wrong?

Edited by davidmolliere - 1/4/14 at 4:36pm
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I know Ted Allen ships to Europe without a problem. As for fragility, if you are careful they are pretty strong. I use mine when traveling without a problem or a worry. Now would I take them hiking, no.

One piece of advice is to not roll them like stock cables. I lay my out on a table when I am finished listening for an evening.
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Thanks for the clarification. One speculation to note, based upon Shure's patent applications (yes I am an attorney and was bored at work so I went on the Patent Trademark Office's website) I believe the SE846 is using Shure's own BAs not ones manufactured by either Knowles or Sonion. Also, the Shure logo is laser etched on the BAs.

Lastly, the 846 is not using the acoustical screens like those found on the 535. The 846 nozzle has an acoustical filter running the length of the nozzle. So similar concept but different implementation.

Edit: After more research it appears Shure uses proprietary balanced armitures manufactured by Sonion. So while it may not be manufactured by Shure only they can use them.
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The comparison is very similar with both the SE535 and the Westone 4r both of which I used to own.

First the soundstage, close your eyes when listening and while both IEMs sound out of your ears the soundstage is not quite merged from right to left. With the Protector that gap is bridged. The Protector's expanded soundstage reaches around your head and seemly behind you as well. It truly is surround sound.

Second, because of the balanced or bridged amp set up even with sensitive IEMs it is dead quiet, I mean black hole quiet with no background hiss.

Third, unlike the SR-71B, Lightning or Intruder balanced amp from RSA, the Protector has a warm, tube like sound. The lows and mids sound incredibly lush with either the 535 or W4r but make no mistake it does flavor the sound. You may be turned off by this but this is where is pairs beautifully with both the 535 or 4r. As it gives both IEMs a very musical sound. It is for this reason I bought the Lightning to pair with my 846 because while the 535 or 4r benefited from the added lushness, the 846 with the blue filters already has it. The Lightning has a more neutral sound compared to the Protector with similar soundstage.

I hope this helps and feel free to PM me if you have any further questions. I may be interested in selling my Protector for $250 so PM if you are interested in buying as well.
yes great thank you.. Sorry for the late reply.. If Christmas wasn't like last month I'd most definitely take that off your hands.. I'll maybe check back in may be a month to see if you still have it.. Which I doubt lol but stranger things have happened.. Lol anyways thank you helped a lot
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I know Ted Allen ships to Europe without a problem. As for fragility, if you are careful they are pretty strong. I use mine when traveling without a problem or a worry. Now would I take them hiking, no.

One piece of advice is to not roll them like stock cables. I lay my out on a table when I am finished listening for an evening.
really they are that fragile huh? How much is a silver cable like the one that is being talked about here. Roughly? I'm interested in getting a good cable for a couple different iems I own but don't want to if I have to worry about the quality.. Thank you in advance. :-)
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Looks nice, how does it improve the sound compare to the stock cable?
love the looks of that cable.. Very sexy:-)
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Spooky76 you got your silver replacement cable for $90 USD? I just got a quote for one for $190 from Ted. Maybe I'm missing something?


Justus
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Spooky76 you got your silver replacement cable for $90 USD? I just got a quote for one for $190 from Ted. Maybe I'm missing something?

Justus

 

I think it's a typo...he dropped the (1):   4′ RSA / ALO / KUBICONN 4-PIN BALANCED PLUG  $190

 

Source: http://headphonelounge.com/silver-iem-cables/

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love the looks of that cable.. Very sexy:-)

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Spooky76 you got your silver replacement cable for $90 USD? I just got a quote for one for $190 from Ted. Maybe I'm missing something?


Justus

The OCC silver plated copper (my first cable), was about $90 the same price as OCC silver copper hybrid. My pure OCC silver cables was $200. Sorry for any confusion. The SPC looks identical to the pure silver and will give you a slightly warmer sound signature.

As for fragility, as I said would I taking them hiking no and I treat them as the price warrants.
Edited by spook76 - 1/5/14 at 11:37am
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Ahh got it. Plated? Interesting.

Yeah, $1000 iem, $200 cable, $800 DAC, $700 phone. Hiking? Uh no.
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Ahh got it. Plated? Interesting.

Yeah, $1000 iem, $200 cable, $800 DAC, $700 phone. Hiking? Uh no.


If you want to try a silver plated copper cable (not balanced) before you take the plunge with one of the custom cable builders, I suggest the Fiio RC-SE1 for about $30...Amazon.  I don't have the 846's, only 535's, but I did not hear any difference between the silver plated copper and the Shure stock copper cable.  The Fiio cable is well made.  I actually prefer it over the OTB Sure cable...a bit more comfortable around the ears and a bit more flexible, but to my ears no improvement in SQ.

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Not to turn this thread into a cable debate, let me say it is not just the materials (e.g. silver, silver plate or copper) but the method of casting that makes a sonic difference. Ohno Continuous Casting produces internally the smoothest material which I think is key to the sonic improvement.
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