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post #601 of 8455
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post
 

I'm curious to hear if Shure corrected the initial batch phase issue.  Without investigating it further it looks like the treble BA was wired out of phase.

 

They called back the first batch to fix. I don't think the other batches have that issue.

post #602 of 8455
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Originally Posted by midnightwalker View Post

They called back the first batch to fix. I don't think the other batches have that issue.

No they did not. I have a first batch 846 I received in August and it was never recalled.
post #603 of 8455

You can shoot them an email and ask them about it. I get that info from their authorized dealer.

post #604 of 8455
People, how would you define the sound of the SE846?
post #605 of 8455
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Originally Posted by midnightwalker View Post

You can shoot them an email and ask them about it. I get that info from their authorized dealer.

My dealer is closed for the day. Which authorized dealer did you chat with? Thanks for the head's up but I do have to say I love treble response of my 846. Hehe
post #606 of 8455
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Originally Posted by davidmolliere View Post

I have read iPod touch 5ht gen is the best DAP match for some but any suggestion for a good matching amp? 

Thanks!

I tend to favor the iPod touch 5 gen as a standalone player with the se846. Absolutely no need for an amp which will degrade the sq. I slightly favor the iPod touch over the zx1 at this point in time.
post #607 of 8455
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Originally Posted by uelover View Post

I tend to favor the iPod touch 5 gen as a standalone player with the se846. Absolutely no need for an amp which will degrade the sq. I slightly favor the iPod touch over the zx1 at this point in time.

While I agree the iPod touch 5th is an excellent DAP, I have said before the 846 like the 535 before it scales up beautifully. Pairing it with a balanced amp really makes the 846 sing. Right now I am using the RSA Protector but I just ordered the RSA f-35 Lighting on Monday and I cannot wait to hear the combination.
post #608 of 8455

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Originally Posted by uelover View Post


I tend to favor the iPod touch 5 gen as a standalone player with the se846. Absolutely no need for an amp which will degrade the sq. I slightly favor the iPod touch over the zx1 at this point in time.

 

I would have to disagree on the amp degrading the sound quality.  If you have a quality amp, it should enhance the musical qualities your dac already has (due to a poor amp section, the LO allowing for a cleaner audio signal to be sent through a quality amplifier section), or be essentially transparent (with no discernible effect on the frequency response at all).  For example, I have a RSA Shadow, and a RSA Hornet.  Both are single ended amps, not balanced.  I have primarily used a Sony F-807 LO > amp, and the iBasso DX50 LO > amp.  Neither built in amp is as good as the RSA's, although the Sony's is pretty decent.  The low end of the spectrum comes through better, along with a better soundstage for starters.  It is possible that a lesser quality/cheaper amp with color the sound (although unless its at the bottom of the barrel I doubt there would be a SQ degradation) a bit vs the iPod's built in amp section, but to apply a blanket statement that any amp will degrade the sound quality is a pretty bold statement, one that I'm sure many on this forum would disagree with. 

 

In the end, it's your money, your ears.  You have to do what's best for your enjoyment and your budget, and determine your point of diminishing returns.  For myself, I will be using external amps for quite a while still, unless a miracle DAP with an amazing built in amp section comes out for <$1000.  I have yet to hear a DAP's internal amp sound better than the players line out to my RSA's.

 

Just my $0.02 :beerchug:

post #609 of 8455

How are these SE 846s sounding with iPhone 5S's?  I've seen reports that they sound good with the iPod Touch 5G, but that player has a much lower output impedance (1.4 vs. 4.5 ohms on the iphone).  Sorry if I missed this in the thread elsewhere, but I didn't find it.  Also, please no flames about using the iPhone...not willing to bring extra items when I travel.

 

Thanks.

 

Correcton: Per Solude's post below, I had the wrong output impedance in this post for the iPhone 5S (2.2 ohms).  I posted one for the iphone 5 instead (4.5 ohms).


Edited by vantagesc - 1/2/14 at 7:26pm
post #610 of 8455

5S is 2.2ohm so I wouldn't worry about it.

post #611 of 8455

General rule of thumb is minimum output impedance = (headphone impedance @ 1KHz)/8. SE846 is 9 ohm / 8 = 1.125 Ohm. The 5S is cutting it close.

post #612 of 8455

I'm a long time SE530 user and now I have the 846s and love them. 

 

What next? Pre amp? DAC? Custom cables? What brings the beauty out of these guys? (Theorem 720 may not be a good fit says the review?)

 

I mainly use them at the office or on the road, so portability is nice. But of course the ultimate goal is to help these babies sing!

post #613 of 8455
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Originally Posted by uelover View Post

I tend to favor the iPod touch 5 gen as a standalone player with the se846. Absolutely no need for an amp which will degrade the sq. I slightly favor the iPod touch over the zx1 at this point in time.

 

Thanks for the input, I actually enjoyed the Ipod 5G / SE846 so much I got myself one and the more I listen, the more I am impressed it betters AudioQuest Dragonfly IMHO and no comparison with straight out of the galaxy Note 3 I have (much more dynamic range, detail and better soundstage and overall a less warmish/lush sound that's often associated with Wolfson chips). BTW I haven't been able to find the Note 3 output impedance.

 

Anyway, the E18 is on the way, I'll share how it pairs with SE846 once I get it (it has a burr brown DAC after all, that should be interresting).

 

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Originally Posted by tninety View Post
 

General rule of thumb is minimum output impedance = (headphone impedance @ 1KHz)/8. SE846 is 9 ohm / 8 = 1.125 Ohm. The 5S is cutting it close.

 

 

Should that read maximum output impedance or did I get it backwards ? I mean all the account of higher output impedance amps not faring so well with SE846....


Edited by davidmolliere - 1/3/14 at 1:20am
post #614 of 8455
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Originally Posted by davidmolliere View Post
 

Should that read maximum output impedance or did I get it backwards ? I mean all the account of higher output impedance amps not faring so well with SE846....

 

Yeah, he probably meant maximum. And if he didn't, he should have. ;)

post #615 of 8455

I got 2 questions.

 

1. Do aftermarket cables for the Shure SE535 work on the Shure SE846? (i'm going to upgrade to the Shure SE846 when they become more available, so spending money on an after cable that doesn't work on an Shure SE846 is kinda silly)

2. Does the connector of the iPhone after cable from Shure fit the Apple leather case? (I can't use my Shure SE535 with my iPhone 5S when it has a case on since the connector is too big to fit threw it).

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