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post #556 of 6446

I ended up settling on the Comply TSX 100 medium fit as I really like the Comply and find them comfortable for

long listening sessions.

I have to say I think the Shure 846 far superior to my Sennheiser IE 800, which have disappointed me from the start.

I still love the Final Audio Design FI BA SS though.

 

Now another question if I may. If there anywhere in the UK that supplies alternative cables for the Shure 846.

Toxic Cables do not mention the Shure range on their site , unless I missed it.

post #557 of 6446
I am fairly sure toxic cables does a shure cable as I enquired about cable for se535. Check his Headfi profile (bigger list) as website not up to date. I also have a Hplaudio cable for the shures.
post #558 of 6446
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Originally Posted by cheznous View Post

I ended up settling on the Comply TSX 100 medium fit as I really like the Comply and find them comfortable for
long listening sessions.
I have to say I think the Shure 846 far superior to my Sennheiser IE 800, which have disappointed me from the start.
I still love the Final Audio Design FI BA SS though.

Now another question if I may. If there anywhere in the UK that supplies alternative cables for the Shure 846.
Toxic Cables do not mention the Shure range on their site , unless I missed it.

I would suggest Ted Allen at Headphone Lounge cables. I know he ships worldwide and his prices, build quality and turn around time are top notch. I have OCC pure silver cables from him for my 846.

Edit: I also thought the 846 was far superior to the ie800 and sold mine once I had the SE846.
Edited by spook76 - 12/29/13 at 3:43am
post #559 of 6446

Another good option for cables is Forza Audioworks.  I have a hybrid cable for my 846's, and it is great quality, turnaround time was fast also.  Also DHC (Double Helix Cables) is another option.  I have one of his cables for my Sennheiser HD700's, also a quality cable.

post #560 of 6446

Just bought the SE846. The SQ is exceptional (coming from UM3X).

 

The supplied volume control cable (coming with the SE846), really dumps the higer frequencies. Apperently it is so noticable that I really cannot use it.

 

Can you recommend such a volume controled adapter cable that will have a real minimal effect on the SQ (frequencies response).

 

Thanks 

post #561 of 6446
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Originally Posted by zolom View Post
 

Just bought the SE846. The SQ is exceptional (coming from UM3X).

 

The supplied volume control cable (coming with the SE846), really dumps the higer frequencies. Apperently it is so noticable that I really cannot use it.

 

Can you recommend such a volume controled adapter cable that will have a real minimal effect on the SQ (frequencies response).

 

Thanks 

I'm not sure there's much you can do. Use your source to control volume. 

post #562 of 6446

even with higher volume, the highs lose brightness.

 

Did you experience this issue as well?

 

Thanks

post #563 of 6446

So the treble is worse than UM3X?   That's pretty alarming.....

post #564 of 6446
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So the treble is worse than UM3X?   That's pretty alarming.....

Only when using a cable with volume controls. Interestingly, mine did not come with a volume control cable nor does the Shure US page show a cable with volume controls standard with the SE846. I know Shure makes one as an aftermarket accessory or could be the inline adapter with a wheel to control volume which is included.

Edit: I think the greatest weakness in the SE846 is like almost all IEMs (the uber cable option of the 1plus2 notwithstanding) is the stock cables. I would always suggest looking into aftermarket cables. Even Jerry Harvey on his website recommends aftermarket cables for his CIEMs as a performance boost.
Edited by spook76 - 12/30/13 at 7:53pm
post #565 of 6446

An inline volume cable with buttons that send a volume control signal back to the source would not affect quality at all. I believe only the SE535LTD and some other special edition bundles have this included in the package. 

 

An inline attenuator like the little thing that's included in all high-end Shure earphones changes the electrical characteristics of the source -> headphone interconnect significantly and could affect quality. 


Edited by tninety - 12/30/13 at 7:56pm
post #566 of 6446
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Originally Posted by tninety View Post

An inline volume cable with buttons that send a volume control signal back to the source would not affect quality at all. 

An inline attenuator changes the electrical characteristics of the source -> headphone interconnect significantly and could affect quality. 

Agreed!
post #567 of 6446

 

thanks;

 

This is the (problematic) volume attenuator supplied with my SE846

 

Is there a recommended (reasonabley priced) cable with volume attenuator that really fits those SE846?


Edited by zolom - 12/30/13 at 10:48pm
post #568 of 6446

I just got mine from eBay as I had an order out with a french provider that failed to deliver again and again (those are just nowhere to be found in Europe...). I took S-EM6 instead as they were available and the return policy allowed me to give them a week. In the end I returned them after 3/4 hours a day of listen, as the sound quality was a mixed bag depending on the mastering and music genre. I had already returned the IE800 because they were too bright, that showed only on some tracks I know by heart were imaging was totally off.

 

I don't regret my choice!

 

Contrary to many comments, I had no real issue taking the default tips off it takes some gentle but strong twisting and pulling but that went in under a minute.

 

Right out of the box, you know there is something very special going on with the SE846, I still need to get over the first "oh my god" reaction but so far it handles everything I throw at them beautifully :)  I have trouble thinking they will improve / burn-in to be something better than they are but I don't mind if they do :)

 

I could own only those IEM and be happy!

 

Note : the same atenuator is in my box, but isn't this for airplane use ?

Fun fact, the box S/N plate tells me those have been manufactured on my birthday, how cool is that? :D

I hope there is no dying driver for me, I have read too many accounts of that, mine were manufactured mid november.

 

Additional first impressions notes : I read a lot about the bass and mids, but clarity and highs are very nice too! I have experienced a few case of sibilance (notably Paul Simon Graceland but it's know for that) but maybe burn-in will improve that

 

How long did you burn them in, the regular 50 hours mark cuts it with those ?

 

Second impressions : After 3 hours of listening and 10 hours of pink noise, I find the most improved is soundstage : way wider and deeper! I know burn in for BAs is not supposed to happen but I have trouble believing that it's my brain doing this. Whichever, it's really the best buy I have made the last 5 years at last. Kudos Shure!

 

Trying out the warm filter :  it doesn't seem to be even an option for most, but I switched to the warm filter and it's kind of relaxed without loosing too much detail and not adding bass (unlike my former PFE232 warm filter). I find mids are kind of more lush that way too, but then again the phones are not burnt in yet. 


Edited by davidmolliere - 12/31/13 at 6:31pm
post #569 of 6446

To All Singaporeans Out There, Or Anybody who are planning to travel to Singaporean, I have a SE846 for sale. Mint Condition 4 Months Old.

Price: SGD1000/USD 850. Selling due to side grading to nearfield monitor speakers. 

 

Cheers!

post #570 of 6446
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Originally Posted by davidmolliere View Post

 

Note : the same atenuator is in my box, but isn't this for airplane use ?

Not exclusively. According to Shure, it's supposed to be used as an analog volume control. Since the SE846 is so sensitive, you can't really listen to them at max volume on anything. But digital volume control on 16-bit decreases signal quality dramatically. 

 

From the manual:

 

The sensitivity of Shure earphones increase the volume level of 
noise and audio equally. If the volume is turned down, the noise 
still remains at the same level. The EA650 volume control adapter 
will reduce the overall level of the music and noise at the same 
rate, still keeping the music far above the noise. 

 

I think what they mean is that: Since the SE846's sensitivity would dictate that you listen at very low volumes on many devices, if your source uses digital volume control (most phones and mainstream PMPs), you'd get dramatically reduced bit depth. If you feel that the pot that Shure provides reduces quality, I suggest putting a portable amp like a Fiio with a low (<1 ohm) output impedance between your source and SE846 instead. Turn up the volume to maximum at your source and use the amp as a volume attenuator. 

 

It's true that some airplanes don't give you a volume control at the source and it could be too loud at the default setting.


Edited by tninety - 12/31/13 at 11:13pm
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