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post #3961 of 16769
Wow. Go AWOL for a week and I have evidently missed a lot (private messages and the banning of SGD if nothing else).

It is interesting to see quite a few opting in for the unmodded black filter. I don't think I will ever go that route, or even unmodded blue. I have, frankly, found the absolute apex that is to my tastes.

As Monty pointed out a few pages back, the folks at Shure do monitor users' impressions hence the advent of filters. I personally find this to be unsurprising but no less awesome; people like to tinker, customise and so on. People also like to have choice and flexibility. I am surprised in myself in that I do not have a preferred filter that corresponds with certain genres.

Removing the memory wire seems tempting, however I kind of like having the cable suspended away from the often sweaty underside of my ear. Look what that did to my IE800s. It is not in any way uncomfortable; in fact, for the most part these are as comfortable and wearable as my old IE8s.

However... I am slightly concerned about the constant piggy-tailing of the cable, which sometimes makes things seem weighty as well. Shure cables are known to be prone to snapping, hence I am leaving the piggy-tails (coiling) well alone.
post #3962 of 16769
So long as it is properly implemented then user changeable filters is a logical compromise. Jerry of jhaudio believes it is the [immediate?] future of personal audio in explaining the Roxanne design. The SE846 filters certainly more thoughtful mechanism than the simpler design used by Phonak
post #3963 of 16769

Just curious... why do they call them the "black" filter, "white" filter, etc?

 

I bought two pairs of nearly every "color," and they are all metal colored (gee... I hope I got the right ones, but I copied the part numbers from here!).

 

I have no way of telling which is which except by matching a zillion-digit part number on the envelope from a zillion-digit part number from here:   http://www.head-fi.org/t/663273/se530-535-acoustic-filter-mod-more-sq-improvement-than-cables-dampers/30#post_9736872

 

 

Did I do this right?  Thanks!

 

 

(I have not yet screwed my courage to the sticking post and tried to remove the existing filters to use these... the SE535s are so great that I'm afraid I'll ruin them... I am instead very seriously considering purchase of the SE 846, with its great bass response, instead).

post #3964 of 16769
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Originally Posted by Black Label View Post

Wow. Go AWOL for a week and I have evidently missed a lot (private messages and the banning of SGD if nothing else).

It is interesting to see quite a few opting in for the unmodded black filter. I don't think I will ever go that route, or even unmodded blue. I have, frankly, found the absolute apex that is to my tastes.

As Monty pointed out a few pages back, the folks at Shure do monitor users' impressions hence the advent of filters. I personally find this to be unsurprising but no less awesome; people like to tinker, customise and so on. People also like to have choice and flexibility. I am surprised in myself in that I do not have a preferred filter that corresponds with certain genres.

Removing the memory wire seems tempting, however I kind of like having the cable suspended away from the often sweaty underside of my ear. Look what that did to my IE800s. It is not in any way uncomfortable; in fact, for the most part these are as comfortable and wearable as my old IE8s.

However... I am slightly concerned about the constant piggy-tailing of the cable, which sometimes makes things seem weighty as well. Shure cables are known to be prone to snapping, hence I am leaving the piggy-tails (coiling) well alone.

BL where the hell have you been? I miss my daily insights on the 8s from one of the bards of Shure (Monty being the other of course). Further unexplained absences will not be tolerated.
post #3965 of 16769
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Originally Posted by kayandjohn View Post
 

Just curious... why do they call them the "black" filter, "white" filter, etc?

 

I bought two pairs of nearly every "color," and they are all metal colored (gee... I hope I got the right ones, but I copied the part numbers from here!).

 

I have no way of telling which is which except by matching a zillion-digit part number on the envelope from a zillion-digit part number from here:   http://www.head-fi.org/t/663273/se530-535-acoustic-filter-mod-more-sq-improvement-than-cables-dampers/30#post_9736872

 

 

Did I do this right?  Thanks!

 

 

(I have not yet screwed my courage to the sticking post and tried to remove the existing filters to use these... the SE535s are so great that I'm afraid I'll ruin them... I am instead very seriously considering purchase of the SE 846, with its great bass response, instead).

where did  buy those filters from i did not know u can buy titers 

post #3966 of 16769
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Originally Posted by kayandjohn View Post
 

Just curious... why do they call them the "black" filter, "white" filter, etc?

 

I bought two pairs of nearly every "color," and they are all metal colored (gee... I hope I got the right ones, but I copied the part numbers from here!).

 

I have no way of telling which is which except by matching a zillion-digit part number on the envelope from a zillion-digit part number from here:   http://www.head-fi.org/t/663273/se530-535-acoustic-filter-mod-more-sq-improvement-than-cables-dampers/30#post_9736872

 

 

Did I do this right?  Thanks!

 

 

(I have not yet screwed my courage to the sticking post and tried to remove the existing filters to use these... the SE535s are so great that I'm afraid I'll ruin them... I am instead very seriously considering purchase of the SE 846, with its great bass response, instead).

 

Those filters are for the 535's. The filters on the 846 are color-coded (the entire nozzle colored): black, blue and white. 

post #3967 of 16769
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Originally Posted by Pepito View Post
 

 

Those filters are for the 535's. The filters on the 846 are color-coded (the entire nozzle colored): black, blue and white. 

it would be nice to have more filters also for the shure 846 than the blue black and white

post #3968 of 16769
My mistake. I got in the wrong thread! I have the SE 535, I got these (from Mouser Electronics) for the SE 535, but as I indicates, I have been researching the
SE 846. My mistake for crossing wires.
post #3969 of 16769
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Originally Posted by hykhleif View Post

it would be nice to have more filters also for the shure 846 than the blue black and white

Besides the modifications to the blue and black filters, there is one more option available and that is no filter. For about a week now I have been listening to my 8s without a filter. I hear greater treble extension and detail but overall the sound becomes very dynamic and fatiguing. The solution to the fatigue I have found is simply to turn the volume down a bit and the detail and treble extension is improved.

No filter 8s is like the Porsche 918 Spyder with the afterburners engaged. Not for faint of heart but if you can survive the greater dynamics it is a detail seeker's signature.
post #3970 of 16769
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post


BL where the hell have you been? I miss my daily insights on the 8s from one of the bards of Shure (Monty being the other of course). Further unexplained absences will not be tolerated.


Not totally AWOL just a bit ill. I think it is SCS withdrawal (tomorrow fingers crossed).

FYI. The Bliss Liner is an absolutely in creditable accessory for distraction free listening. It takes you away and the 8s do their work.

 

Just picked up my youngest dog from the breeder where she has done two weeks of advanced training simian combat. - Krav Maga for canines

post #3971 of 16769
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post


Besides the modifications to the blue and black filters, there is one more option available and that is no filter. For about a week now I have been listening to my 8s without a filter. I hear greater treble extension and detail but overall the sound becomes very dynamic and fatiguing. The solution to the fatigue I have found is simply to turn the volume down a bit and the detail and treble extension is improved.

No filter 8s is like the Porsche 918 Spyder with the afterburners engaged. Not for faint of heart but if you can survive the greater dynamics it is a detail seeker's signature.

 

I do like the option of the no filter option, as that was how it was with my Shure SE530's originally, and being able to hear the music organically can be invigorating.  

 

I have found with the modded black/white filter, the highs seemed very high (some may say shrill) at first, but my brain got used to it, so when I went back to the blue and black to demo, they seemed a lot darker and slightly restrictive.  

 

I do like the Porsche 918 Spyder afterburner analogy as well (especially since I just took and passed my MAT test [Miller's Analogies Test] this morning to get into graduate school).  

 

Since I am a sweater though, I like the fact that there is a little screen on the bottom of the filters that can block any sweat/liquid from getting into the earphone housing.  Of course the Sensaphonics custom sleeves thwart sweat going into the ear canal bore like no other, so that's a plus if I ever wanted to go filter-less.

 

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Originally Posted by Monty Burns View Post
 


Not totally AWOL just a bit ill. I think it is SCS withdrawal (tomorrow fingers crossed).

FYI. The Bliss Liner is an absolutely in creditable accessory for distraction free listening. It takes you away and the 8s do their work.

 

Just picked up my youngest dog from the breeder where she has done two weeks of advanced training simian combat. - Krav Maga for canines

 

I'm really looking forward to finding out how you like the "full shells" compared to the "regular" sleeves.  Hopefully the new sleeves won't give you any discomfort.  Crossing my fingers...

 

The Bliss Liner looks to be a very comfortable way to relax.  You'll be on the bliss in auditory bliss...very soon!

 

Krav Maga for canines, eh?  Well that's easier than having to kick some serious bootay yourself!  Sit back, and enjoy the show if someone messes with you and your dog is near you...  :cool:

post #3972 of 16769
Moedawg, your mention of the MAT took me back about 20 years to sitting for the LSAT to get into law school. Four hours of sheer "fun".

Monty, I too have sent my killer attack poodle through simian combat training. Just preparing for the inevitable.
post #3973 of 16769
Hahahaha yes I do feel a bit disgusted and neglectful in myself . I have been duty bound to get my clogs on and set about gathering everything I need for semester 2 enrolment. It has been quite positively draining; my temper and nerves as frayed as what my IE800 cable would be like now if I had not made the switch to the Shures.

Sounds to me as though filterless operation is akin to the white filter but with a greater sense of dynamics? I am intrigued. The reason for going black-modded (I might go back...) was because of fatigue issues when listening to high-octane metal, however in saying that I am capping volume to about 55% these days. Before ditching the whites methinks I was rather naive to the sheer power these things can deliver.

I have made the executive decision in getting myself an iPad. With a 500GB MacBook (a huge amount given its release date of 2010) I shall reserve high bitdepth and sample-rate music for home listening. Indeed, if I still owned the 800s this would be the only option because of their crappy isolation, but because I must remain alert to my surroundings when out and about it is probably best to not get too engrossed in finer details anyway.

Mind you, nothing could have saved me from slamming my shins into a bench along a city street a fortnight ago. Melbourne's pavements in the dark and wet render me almost totally blind because of their reflective quality.
post #3974 of 16769
Some of that may come from poorer DACs pushing mid and mid-bass frequencies by default anyway, part in your smartphone and tablets
post #3975 of 16769
Possibly, but I think volume is probably the biggest factor. The 8s do not tell porky pies in their power but they certainly can be a foul temptress in making me want to turn it up to 11.

Here is one piece of progressive trance that has such an effect (hopefully the audio quality is okay).

The kick drum takes the mind puts it in a tandoor oven!
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