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post #3796 of 16771
Care to add some beer to that?

Scratch that. Raddlers are for German cyclists who can't handle the good stuff. Such raddler drinking lycra lizards can be found, most likely, donning a pair of IE800s (worn down-ear). tongue.gif

SomeGuyDude: I will get back to your excellent post later. For now though may I just say that it was a fantastic read in that you have explained bass and how the human ear responds to such frequencies.
post #3797 of 16771
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post

It does take a moment to wrap your brain around the bass power here because instinctively you're going to go "ugh the bass, these things are all unbalanced". Then you start listening and it's like "oh wait, these are perfectly balanced, the bass has just been brought up so it sounds on equal footing with the rest". 

Said it before and I'll say it again, the ear doesn't "hear" bass as readily as other frequencies. A 100dB tone at 35Hz may be rumbling and quaking, but 100dB at 5000Hz is going to be AGONIZINGLY loud. What happens with these is the bass guitar just becomes as powerful as the lead guitar, which can be a little disorienting if your former definition of "good bass" was that if you closed your eyes and concentrated you could tell that there's bass going on down there.

So many headphones I've tried where people raved about the bass had me listening to music and hearing that the bass was simply "audible". Cymbals crashed like crystal and vocals soared over the heavens, but the bass was just "there". Just because you are AWARE that the bass is present and it's providing a subconscious "filling in" effect doesn't mean it's doing what it should be.

Fire up an album by Primus or Tool and you'll hear what's going on. Les Claypool's bass slaps and stomps along the way it should and "My Name is Mud" or "Mr Krinkle" have such more heft than I've heard before. Bass is like the bastard child of the frequency spectrum when audiophiles talk, like it's role is to be felt but not heard, that the star of the show is the mids or the highs, and those should be screaming above all else. I'm glad someone made a true flagship that doesn't agree.

That is very insightful and well articulated. I have had my 8s for 10 months and I never could out into words what is truly exceptional about the 846. After you posted I fired up Tool and you are exactly right.

When people talk about bass response it is always the "bastard child" of the frequency. It is linear, boosted or bloated never described as mids and highs. To give bass drums and both bass and bass guitars equal prominence without crowding the lower mids creates an amazing sound.
post #3798 of 16771
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Originally Posted by moedawg140 View Post
 

"Full Shells" just arrived.  Impressions to follow. :ksc75smile:

I am most envious Green than Kermit in a stack of Benjamins . I wait in the secure knowledge that they have cleared Chicago and now enroute to the Canadian Border. Soon I too will be wire (again) right into my Cerebral Cortex.

 

On a separate topic

 

I have noticed by reading older threads on this site that clearly Shure monitors Head FI and considers its users of its product here on Head Fi  as a real world laboratory scientists. (not rats ..guys in coats .. white coats of the Lab kind)

 

For example. There is a very large thread that deals with Moding the 5s.  It is focused it seems in pulling dampers out of the nozzles of the 5s and swapping them out for other OEM ones. (all very technical. Sort of MacGyver meets Dr Frankenstein. )

 

Like the Moding of the 8s filters that is just WAYY beyond my pay grade.

 

I am getting to the point her bear with me. This Thread goes back some time and I assume before there was a dedicated thread to it there was modding talk going about on 5 threads ((4,3 too if there are threads on them I only trolled so deep.)

 

Flash forward to the introduction of our beloved and Self-Aware 8s...What to we have A removable nozzle and interchangeable filters. (which are basically dampers (I think).

 

(believe all the modding of the 5 started after the introduction of the 535LTD. but may have before.

 

The point is (finally) SHURE clearly saw something in what was being done here and basically integrated it into the 8s. Removable nozzles changeable filters.

 

so keep on Franken Moding those Filters AND Shure is bound to come out with more flavours. (Pale Blue for me please) Oh and better cable

 

 

Also what with so many cutting the memory sheath. I still believe has a purpose (It keeps them from falling off the ear ) BUT it could be improved. One It starts far too soon. It should be further away from the connector point. AND secondly the sheath need not be that rigid.

 

Point is if you all keep cutting then Shure is inevitably going to modify or remove the sheath from future cables BASED on Real world experience.

 

I believe it would be goo idea if those who post cogent comments on the memory sheath here should CC these comments to Shures . I would but Cogent and Monty Burns do not always go together .. barely lucid is a stretch most of the time.. but I digress. Still you have seen my correspondence to Shure Cogent and precise is not exactly my manner of prose

 

Clearly Shure has more than some respect for those who use there product in the real world and care enough to talk about them. We are for the most part early adoptors....(Shiny new toy :tongue_smile: )

 

The rest of the population may not squawk but will be happy to see their toy get better and be able to have these upgrades/ modifications.

 

Sensaphonics makes changes in real time because they can. So much of what they do is custom. SHURE may take longer to respond at a production level but they are listening (quietly) and they are responding. The changes to the 8s prove that.

 

Call it CS Black Ops/ Recon


Edited by Monty Burns - 6/27/14 at 8:40pm
post #3799 of 16771

I'm terrified to see what they do next.

post #3800 of 16771
Officially my post on here so bear with me..From everything that I read I ended up purchasing a DX90 to upgrade from my 6th Gen Ipod. I've had it for about 3 days now so burn in is still fresh. I'm quite happy with what I hear. My current headphones are the SE530s. I'm looking for an upgrade and have been considering the 846 and others. Possibly the Roxanne's. Then their are the 334 Dita Answers Nt6 Pro and SE 5 way. Obviously some choices. I'd prefer a non CIEM only because of resale but not set on that. Any experience or words of wisdom on this pairing would be much appreciated. Thanks!
post #3801 of 16771

Strangely enough for me removing the memory wire and just draping the cable over my ears worked fine. It holds well and no more lever effect - before I couldn't use rubber tips. Now I can. I dont know exactly what the "upgrade" or replacement for the memory wire would be If I had to say I wanted one - because I prefer the plain old cable. 

post #3802 of 16771
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Originally Posted by hertzsogood View Post

I like Dynamic drivers as the 800 and I also like BA Drivers as the 846. I will say the 846 is one of the best BA earphone and the 800 is one of the beat Dynamic driven earphones out there.

And I think you may be correct.....I should be receiving my 800s back soon or rather a new pair that was replaced...I've had a nice couple of months now with the Shures and when I receive the Senns I'll put the Shures away for a little while and do a revaluation ☺️ to listen to the dynamic drivers once again.....
post #3803 of 16771
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Officially my post on here so bear with me..From everything that I read I ended up purchasing a DX90 to upgrade from my 6th Gen Ipod. I've had it for about 3 days now so burn in is still fresh. I'm quite happy with what I hear. My current headphones are the SE530s. I'm looking for an upgrade and have been considering the 846 and others. Possibly the Roxanne's. Then their are the 334 Dita Answers Nt6 Pro and SE 5 way. Obviously some choices. I'd prefer a non CIEM only because of resale but not set on that. Any experience or words of wisdom on this pairing would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Hey New2headfi,

 

I am not sure where you are located, but August 9th is the Los Angeles Head-Fi Meet in Woodland Hills, here is the link to it: http://www.head-fi.org/t/714480/official-2014-la-head-fi-meet-august-9-2014-marriott-warner-center.  You can actually try out the vendor's devices like amps, headphones, IEMs, DAPs, DACs, and cables and make a more educated decision(s) on what you would like to do next.  I don't have a DAP other than my iPhone 5 and no amp or DAC as well, but I may find one at the meet that makes my SE846 sound really good, then I'll probably purchase it there if I can or order it later in more economical ways. :bigsmile_face: 

 

If you can't make it there, you can also check out major airports as a lot of times you can demo certain devices/IEMs.  You can also read the reviews and ask for feedback like you are doing now to your heart's content to make the most educated decision(s) as you can.

 

I too am coming from Shure SE530s and if you like the sound of them, then the Shure SE846 will (should) be a glorious and visceral progression of the quality of the music you are currently listening to.  

 

As for your non-CIEM choice, you can have the best of both worlds of a universal IEM and the custom IEM feel, and get the Shure SE846 with Sensaphonics Custom Sleeves.  My updated review with the "full shells" will be up soon (hopefully tonight). http://www.head-fi.org/t/723306/review-sensaphonics-custom-sleeves-in-crystal-blue-for-the-shure-se846.  

 

Good luck with your endeavors!

post #3804 of 16771

Can anyone recommend a good source upgrade from my Sansa Clip +

 

Was considering the X5 but its a bit of a stretch on price. Especially right now. 

 

I have an iPod clickwheel - its neat but it has a hdd in it and uses firewire so its hard to load music onto. 

post #3805 of 16771
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Originally Posted by Mitchell4500 View Post
 

Can anyone recommend a good source upgrade from my Sansa Clip +

 

Was considering the X5 but its a bit of a stretch on price. Especially right now. 

 

I have an iPod clickwheel - its neat but it has a hdd in it and uses firewire so its hard to load music onto. 

In my opinion the X5 is great and a lot better than any Ipod period. You can try the X3 it is inexpensive, sounds better then Ipods, has a lot of power more than X5, great size fits in my hand or shirt pocket.

post #3806 of 16771
Folks- it is not 8's, it is SE846. We paid for those last 2 numbers damnit! Monty's implant needs an upgrade I fear. :P
post #3807 of 16771
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Folks- it is not 8's, it is SE846. We paid for those last 2 numbers damnit! Monty's implant needs an upgrade I fear. :P

 

SE8?

post #3808 of 16771
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I'm terrified to see what they do next.


Well from what I have seen the Future improvements/upgrades will be far less flush with the ear. The shell will have to grow to cram in all the wondrous gifts that the A( has in store for us. Memory wire or wore of any sort will be a thing of the past. Shure has shown us this hit of the future with its wireless  (?) units for performers.

 

Once this finds its way to the general public it will all be but neater as seen  below.

 

Clearly the size in indicative of the BA design. ((Now this is On topic  - barely)

 

 

All of this of course is just a precursor to the FINAL UPGRADE. 

 

 

This, the Final Upgrade, is of course is still very much in the early prototype stage, but holds much promise of a bright future and harmony between source material, machine and (cyber)man.

 

I think resting my ears waiting for the Return of my SCS is giving me the musical equivalent of cabin fever...the only cure for which is MORE COWBELL!


Edited by Monty Burns - 6/27/14 at 8:35pm
post #3809 of 16771
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Originally Posted by M Coupe View Post

Folks- it is not 8's, it is SE846. We paid for those last 2 numbers damnit! Monty's implant needs an upgrade I fear. :P

But "8s" is just SO easy to type. Good news BTW, my Upgrade is indeed on the way. Resistance is futile Collaboration is sweet (sweet music).


Edited by Monty Burns - 6/27/14 at 8:19pm
post #3810 of 16771

I just listened to Copacabana on these. It was an experience. 

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