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post #2956 of 16761
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Originally Posted by Eugguy View Post
 

Sorry buddy, sounds like you need to "stand up" and ice those knees, lol. If you've read anything at all, my 846 are perfectly fine, for now. However, I do feel empathy for those who have been shorted. And not everyone has had a pleasant experience with Shure's CS. To accept and expect a product to malfunction/die is just unacceptable. The JH situation is a whole different problem entirely. I'm sorry if you have had a concussion. Rest, Ice, Compression, Empathize. :)


My Bad I clearly missed some of your posts (Fuzzy brain).:blink:

 

I DO empathize with anyone who has equipment failure (been there). If my 846s failed I would be displeased to say the least (well actually to say the least would be to say nothing ). It totally sucks when your shiny new toy suddenly Stops.  

 

I don't think those with failures were "shorted". That would assume SHURE knowingly sent out faulty units.

Mal-intent is bad business and just not profitable.

 

Being technically challenged I am of little help to any CS/Support/Service. "Can you tell us the problem sir"

"Yes, It stopped"  Be it Electronics, Cars, Appliances...

 

I don't expect a product to malfunction, but I am aware of this fact of life.

I have had a history (save with SHURE) of getting one of those 1 out of every 10,000 units that just mysteriously fail (a lot over my lifetime and across the spectrum of consumer and household goods. -  who knows why - karma?.)

 

So given my "new stuff karma"  I test companies out in advance of purchase especially  "Wants".

SHURE included, I question them, pester them and let them know I am coming. I want to know in advance IF things go wrong how will the company fix it to my satisfaction. Mystery shopper no. Squeaky Wheel you betcha

 

As a general rule I : 

never buy the first production year of a car be it a new model or platform.

Wait at least 3-6 months after the introduction of a new electronics product (including IEMs - I bought my 846s in March)

Avoid being an early adopter no matter how shiny and pretty the object or its promise.

If I have a problem I deal with it by phone not email as it expedites resolution.

As a corollary if I cannot contact CS by phone (doesn't have to be toll free but its nice) I don't deal with that company or buy their product

 

Oh and I feel the same way about "new" medical procedures and Drugs. Let others be the final beta testers/guinia pigs.

 

Wow it takes longer to post when you keep forgetting what your next thought is...:blink:


Edited by Monty Burns - 6/4/14 at 2:49pm
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Well said Monty, (edit): regarding your two recent posts.

I shan't be rushing out to get the new Galaxy S5 or eben the new iPhone when it lands. When it comes to that sort of thing, I'll be buying refurbed from now on. My current iPhone is doing some rather bizarre things but because of Apple's stupifying retail customer service interaction and rigid, above the law warranty terms, I'm basically going to have to reinvest in a new phone at a moment's notice.

When you have experienced the real deal in customer service, the world lookks different and nothing is ever quite the same again (said so relevance isn't entirely lost tongue.gif )

Anyhoo..... MJ modded black filter initial impressions
- Bass detail is now even greater - presence, impact, slam etc remains the same
- Male vocals are a bit more forward (this is a very preliminary impression) - the midrange is about the same
- Electric guitar, metal textures are now even coarser and beautiful for it! - by coarse I mean the way in which the instrument sounds - the overall presentation now, I think, is less fatiguing and more enjoyable over long periods
- Treble extension has improved
- Soundstage & layering has altered as well; music now "flows" from anywhere "around" the ears to enveloping either the entire mind or the back of the head (dependant on music being played of course), layering has changed also but I cannot quite put my finger on it

The unfortunate thing is, with my eyesight I cannot sit down and exchange filters as I would need to for a clearer and more concise comparison between white and MJ Modded black. We are talking subtle but still palpable changes in sound here it has to be said.

And I really cannot sing the praises of Jaben Audio enough. They obligingly assisted me with the mod and changed the filters over for me, all to the tune of renouncing one's Sennheiser fanboism. tongue.gif Love your work, lads!

Edit: While in store and since, I have neglected to use my baseline test track: "Land of Snow and Sorrow", by - who else? - Wintersun. I think I shall do it now.
Edited by Black Label - 6/4/14 at 4:20pm
post #2958 of 16761
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Originally Posted by Monty Burns View Post
 


 

 

$100 steaks come overcooked sometimes too (too sarcastic?)

 

 

I hate when that happens - and I hate when my wife objects to me mentioning it to the server - I pay Mortons/Flemmings/etc... a couple of bucks for that dry-aged piece of cow flesh and it better come the way I ordered it!

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A DAP that will pair with my 846s FiiO X5. Perhaps? Maybe? Maybe not?

 

I have read all the high praise for the iBasso DX90 and how well it pairs with the 8s. And I am sorely tempted to order one. However, iBasso is a company I can ONLY communicate with by email. Further there really is no North American support or for that matter retail sales. So that means also ordering from them online through what is shall we say a less than elegant website (hardly engenders confidence but then HIFIMAN wow that is just pointless.)

 

SONY as I have learned has ceded North America to Apple deeming us musical Philistines. At least for now.

 

That brings me to FiiO specifically the X5.

It is certainly affordable at $350. But then I will have to load it up with memory (oh god learning curve ) Available in the USA and Canada etc. I know it has a small screen but it can't be smaller than an iPod Classic. (I mean it could be but I don't think so) UI and scroll wheel etc goes to the DX90 I got that

X5 better battery life but wonky wheel and UI eh.

 

I have read the threads and I can't find and notes on how it pairs with the 8s. The threads tell me the X5 is "bassier than the DX90 and more analog like. The iBasso is more "intimate" and "Airy" ( is that code for thin?). But the X5 is more detailed..... Yadda Yadda Yadda Wah, wah wah wah wah, wah wah.

And so it goes on and on back and forth and my woozy head spins

 

Will the FiiO X5 pair well with the 8s? I assume each DAP might sound better or worse depending on the IEM but from my view the 8s are the only consideration (We are in a strictly monogamous exclusive relationship)

For that matter is the X5 even worth considering?

 

Or is the DX90 a better pairing? If so is it so much better that it is worth breaking my rule about actual real time live human support over a phone. I sense with IBasso I will pretty much be on my own.

 

You may well be thinking  

"What you got  to play your fuzzy warbles on?"...I bet you got little save pitiful portable picnic player."

 

And you would indeed be right I currently use an iPod Classic so I assume that either is a massive step up.

 

This would be easier if SHURE made a DAP or at least had a preferred DAP like Sensaphonics for their custom sleeves (The Waiting is hardest part)

 

Thoughts, opinions all welcome. Graph are nice  and often pretty but totally wasted on me. 

Sort of like trying to use reason and common sense with Gwyneth Paltrow - The lights are on, but no one is home


Edited by Monty Burns - 6/4/14 at 6:09pm
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Aaah, Australia. We do steaks very well here. Except Perth. Perth pub steaks are usually overpriced and not good (with the exception of pubs that not owned by heartless conglomerates). Being naive I ordered a scotch fillet rare but it was medium, with a thin pink slither. I photographed it and show waiters/barstaff and say: "This is how I want my scotch fillet done!" smily_headphones1.gif Not all cuts are best served rare/rare-medium.

I am facing the same quandary. Do I go on in for the rockboxed DX50 as my brother has done (says it has changed the sound of the DX50 entirely - well, he posted the impressions in this thread I think). Or do I be a sucker and be seduced by the AK120? Try out all of its firmware tweaks to see which sounds best? Some say its sound is coloured, but it is warm which is how I likes it. Two SD cards capable of being loaded up with 128GB storage is miiiiiighty tempting!
post #2961 of 16761
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Originally Posted by Monty Burns View Post
 

 

 

 

Sort of like trying to use reason and common sense with Gwyneth Paltrow - The lights are on, but no one is home

After seeing an interview with her, I kinda wanted to do a Peter Gabriel reverse mohawk on her, to see if I could locate the lobotomy scars.

post #2962 of 16761
Bahahahaha! That made me laugh. In public too. tongue.gif

And for the record Wintersun sounds very good indeed now.
post #2963 of 16761
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I am glad I could help Dave. I usually clean the cables and the IEM connectors about once every 2-3 months.
Worked for me too:)
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MY Sleeves are on the way. And another example of EXCELLENT Customer Service. Sensaphonics!!

 

 

First I called and queried them (Live engaged knowledgeable staff - Thank You Claudia)  about their product; what happens if the sleeves don't fit etc. Patient to a fault, when you consider they deal primarily with Music Industry Pros and musicians - NOT the well intentioned but ignorant member of the general public that I am (so Special they have an Olympics just for me).

 

By the same token they also outfit Taylor Swift so I might not be THE most particular and annoying client Sensaphonics has ever had to deal with. Though I am likely the most particular, annoying, pestering and low profit client they have ever had. (Time is money people and I used their time to my ends as a consumer of "Wants")

 

I tried but failed to get a NAMM promotion for $25 off Sleeves that expired on January or February (It was worth a shot. If you don't ask you definitely don't get ).

While we discussed this she mentioned there is the possibility of future type promotions (no guarantee).

 

Was I in any great rush to get my custom sleeves i.e. did I have a show or something  - I replied a show this would involve some musical talent (wait not really  - Bieber! Auto Tune! Crap just puked in my brain) I just wanted to get them while summer was young.

 

(NOTE Keep your eyes out Summer NAMM is in July possibly another promotion then - possibly not )

 

HERE is where the CS really kicked in - the Human element

When I called today to enquire where I was in the line, I was told they were sent out Parcel Post yesterday..

 

She said she hoped I didn't mind it would take about 2-3 days more to get to me (or less possibly) BUT was MUCH cheaper than UPS/FedEx to Canada.

 

She remembered I was not in any immediate rush to get them but was price sensitive (ok  I'm cheap when it comes to me). I hate when shipping is a large % of the value of the good shipped - which is often the case of FedEx/UPS between Canada and the USA

 

I save money get my Customs in about the same amount of time (especially in terms of Geological Time) and also now have a much greater knowledge about Silicone Sleeves,CIEMs etc.

 

Another Company Added to my list of Companies I would be happy to do business with in the future.

EXCELLENT indeed.

post #2965 of 16761

After tyring the 846 for 4-5 hours. All i can say to describe its performance is that its 535 ltd with subwoofers. (It is a level up on almost every other aspects, but the most apparent once you put it in is that its very engaging bass)

post #2966 of 16761
That's a Monty Burns "eeeeeexcellent!"

On the subject of tips & sleeves... Pro tip: do not attempt to use the triple flange as ear protection. I thought I would try it since I am heading to a live show tonight. Big mistake! I am now en route to the GP.

If you were of the assumption that I am smart given my eloquent command of the English language, I am sorry to have disillusioned you. tongue.gif
post #2967 of 16761
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Originally Posted by Black Label View Post

That's a Monty Burns "eeeeeexcellent!"

On the subject of tips & sleeves... Pro tip: do not attempt to use the triple flange as ear protection. I thought I would try it since I am heading to a live show tonight. Big mistake! I am now en route to the GP.

If you were of the assumption that I am smart given my eloquent command of the English language, I am sorry to have disillusioned you. tongue.gif

As chinese-native I am all to familiar with these 'implications'. ;)
Soooo did you wear it no-wire like the audiologist Monty Burns met?

Or did you notice the red light blinking on your 846's? Sentient calls...

 

It seems legit that custom sleeves have better noise attenuation than the triple flanges.:evil: 

post #2968 of 16761
Haha, no wires or connectors. Just the naked flange itself.

No wonder a similar, proper, pair of earplugs for protection had infinitely longer stems and a cable attached!

I need a beer after this. The trip go the doc involved missing my bus stop and a subsequent walk in thick mud. It's out now though and I am back to enjoying my Shures once more.
post #2969 of 16761

I just got the Westone Star Tips as recommened. My first impressions are very good. I like them more than the standard Shure tips. 

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I remember borrowing my brother's Westone 4s for a day. I do recall they fit very well, however I am unsure as to whether or not they were the star tips.

Jaben now stocks Westone's gear, hence I might give them a whirl - even if the olives suit me exceedingly well.
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