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post #2731 of 17052
I am also tempted by the DX100, however the AKs boast greater battery life which is a huge plus.
post #2732 of 17052

Great synergy with the new  iBasso DX90 DAP. 

Picked up detail, with the SE846 sounding very natural. The DX90 seeming to be a great vehicle for demonstrating the characteristics of the SE846.

post #2733 of 17052
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Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin View Post

Great synergy with the new  iBasso DX90 DAP. 
Picked up detail, with the SE846 sounding very natural. The DX90 seeming to be a great vehicle for demonstrating the characteristics of the SE846.

+1. Auditioned the DX90 with my SE846 and was literally blown away with the synergy they have compared to my DX50. Will have to start saving for that now.
post #2734 of 17052
Hmmmm... Could be a low cost alternative to the AK120 after all. And if battery power is an issue, I can always buy a spare. The DX90 takes Samsung Galaxy batteries I hear.

Which filters do you guys use with it?

My brother says the difference between the DX50 and DX90 did not warrant the asking price, but it's all subjective I suppose.
post #2735 of 17052
I guess it boils down to preference as both DX50 and DX90 sounds rather different IMO. Wolfson vs Sabre chips. Overall clarity, refinement and everything else are better with the 90 but the 50 definitely have better PRAT. I was more focused on the sound reptoduction of the 90 while always found myself toe tapping to the 50. Just my 2 cents but that's how I heard them.
post #2736 of 17052
PRAT? Tis a little too late in the evening to be figuring out acronyms. smily_headphones1.gif
post #2737 of 17052
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PRAT? Tis a little too late in the evening to be figuring out acronyms. smily_headphones1.gif
Pace Rhythm and Timing
post #2738 of 17052
Pace rhythm and timing. One of those vague terms that will mean different things to the individual. Like graphs wink.gif
post #2739 of 17052
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Pace rhythm and timing. One of those vague terms that will mean different things to the individual. Like graphs wink.gif


And here I thought my music determined those factors.... If my player started determined those I call it broken and buy a new one!

post #2740 of 17052
Ah hah, thankyou. smily_headphones1.gif

Indeed it could be a deal maker or breaker. The AK's PRaT, I thought at the time, is nigh on perfect. In saying that, firmware updates have altered the synergy hence if I go all out, I would want to downgrade with ease if I so choose. This PRaT concept is also perhaps one differential between the iPhone and AK's synergy with the 846 that I could not put my finger on.
Edited by Black Label - 5/26/14 at 5:47am
post #2741 of 17052
Ie800 was garbage. 846 ANYDAY. From form to function the 846 steps all over the 800. And this is coming from a BIG fan of the sennheiser sound. 846s are actually the first pair of shures I own. I actually preferred and still prefer the ie80 over the ie800 as well.
post #2742 of 17052

PRaT is a little too esoteric for me.

 

Even focusing in on a DAC is too technical for me. Perhaps if everything else in two different players were exactly the same (except for the DAC), I could then zero in on the effects of the DAC itself. Digital to analog conversion seems like such a mundane task. All I know is one DAP may pair well with a particular earphone (and particular software player) to reproduce toe-tappin' sounds (and an other DAP---not so much).

 

I did notice (years ago) that my Dell Axim X51V played faster than my stereo so I downloaded software players with pitch and speed control (and voila). I could then slow music down to the the speed of radio station playback.

 

What I use to like most about my Galaxy S2 and 535 pairing was areas of emphasis and tactile-like feedback in just the right spots (for me) in popular and rhythm & blues music. I'm still trying to get to that place with the 846. So far, the 846 works best with the Note 3 (with V4A and Powerramp). Tomorrow I should be receiving my DX90. We shall see if all the talk about synergy will be to my liking.

post #2743 of 17052
Eugguy: Yours and my path to this end are exactly identical, particularly in the impression that the Shure SE846 is the clear winner.

I also went through three pairs of IE8s over the course of four years; one replaced out of pocket, the other by warranty. Durability (or lack thereof) matters aside, with amping and EQing I was entertained throughout the duration, however as time went on I yearned for a step up. The more I reflect, the more I see how the IE800s were ultimately unsatisfactory in more ways than one, even if they are deserving of the high -end audio title. A step up indeed, but then a slight and potentially fatal shimmy to the side. The 846s caught me on the first bounce.

Truckdriver: I look forward to reading your impressions of the DX90. PRaT is I suppose one of those intangible things, particularly for those of us (myself included) whose knowledge of music theory is only rudimentary. Unfortunately (partial) blindness has not been a golden ticket to musical talent, but I digress. tongue.gif However, I do (believe) I have the heightened sense of hearing that results from the loss of another sense*, hence marked or subtle differences in presentation can either emphasise or tarnish an aural experience. I am therefore quite happy to drop over a grand on something if the ends of further heightened sensory indulgence justify the means, but spending half of that would be preferable.

I only wish Jaben had Dire Straits' "Sultans of Swing" or "The Telegraph Road" (two absolute favourites and both serve as auditioning acid tests for everything) in addition to Brothers in Arms loaded onto its AK120 demo unit.

* It occurred to me, while wearing the 846s, that there is an intrinsic link between the sense of hearing and touch. I shan't bore anyone with further elaboration.
post #2744 of 17052

Another in for the DX90...With both my CIEM's and my 846's, it blows the DX50 away.  Well worth the price, I'm glad it came out as I was on the brink of purchasing an AK100/120 after not being a huge fan of the DX50's sound.

post #2745 of 17052

Noobie trying FLAC files from iPhone 5.

Is money better spent on a Sony PHA-1 (amp and DAC) or an iBasso DX90 (no amp), based on getting the best noticeable improvement in music?

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