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surprisingly sounding much nicer with black filters and dx50 , black filters much more enjoyable allowing the best of the iem to shine while the treble is more subtle and easier going but brilliant wen called for , i'm sticking with this setup for now .:):):) black filters just need a  few minutes to get used to the warmer tones .i giv it a minute and ifound myself won over . i usually prefer fast bright and analytic sound i did not get that from white filters just a confusing sibilant mess  , these while not fast are something else entirely . the mids are so expansive .listning to spongle 

while i change my mind alot take what i say with a pinch of salt schtinkmeaner is happy atlast

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I will talk with Sweetwater. They are working perfectly again. I will see if they will give me 90 days. I hate to send em back. I would like to atleast run them for a week to see if anything happens again.

 

You can get a can of compressed air and blow out (and off) both the connector ends of the cable and earpiece. It sounds like there may be residue on them. I once had a brand new 535 replacement earpiece that I could see residue on with a magnifier. I blew it off and put a little connection conditioner on it and 2 years later it still works fine.


Edited by truckdriver - 5/12/14 at 9:24am
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Thx for the inputs guys!

Been listening to https://m.soundcloud.com/faul-official/changes-feat-wad-ad . House is not my favourite genre, but the 846s just sound so great with these type of music. Never thought an iem could pump out this kind of sub-bass without hurting the delicate mids. Could listen to them on hours on end.

(Edit] Oops forgot to quote again. Thx spook and joshua!
Edited by elindil - 5/12/14 at 9:33am
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Less than 2 hour with my new earphones and the left channel is out. :-(

 

 

I have owned the 846 for about 3 months now. Love them. Been tip rolling with the limited narrow bore tips I have...I was using the mushroom mediums for the past few months, now switched to the medium olives...amazing...I wasn't a fan of the westone star-tips. Anyway, back to why I quoted Stirman...if I were to read this forum now after seeing all of the failed earpiece drivers lately, I may have never even decided to purchase. I am actually still a little concerned in some ways. For such an amazing sounding IEM, the build and quality control seems to be shakey for a lot of the HF's here. 

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Has anyone tried the Dragonfly, GEEK, or any other budget amp/dac with the 846?  Looking for something to try out at the office.

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BA's don't burn in.  Never have.

 

Curious what you don't like about W40 bass?    As awesome as I thought W4 bass was, W40 took it up even another notch.  Most detailed hard hitting bass I have ever heard.  I'm sure SE846 is unreal but W40 bass is best in my sound sig.

 

Yes, that is what I thought - no burn in on BAs, but then I have read far too many posts in this thread where people say that the sound of the 846s changes (improves) after 4 or more hours.  Personally, I saw a significant difference with my W4s over the course of a few days when I first got them, however, I spoke to the Westone people who also stated that they don't believe in 'burn-in', so, go figure.

 

About the W4 bass....

 

Hhhhmmm.  This is something I try to avoid because, to me, it is a voodoo topic - much like religion and politics.  Everyone's beliefs and tastes vary and who is to say, really, who is right or wrong in their opinion.  To me, there is no right or wrong....just different.  What sounds good to you sounds good to you.  End of story.  We like what we like, but since you asked, I will give you my.02.

 

I am a self confessed basshead.  Make no mistake, and no 12 step program is ever going to cure me.  My saying is, "yes, I have a bass problem.  No, I don't want a cure".

 

But a basshead is not all I am.  I will spend hours listening and studying the subtle sonic delicacies of  a folk song's acoustic guitar piece, or the string section of a particular symphony in a classical music piece. My musical taste is wide, varied, and all over the road.  Still, when I am feeling especially self indulgent, I will plug the E11 into the fuze+ player, set the bass boost to maximum, and with all the sacred reverence of a rare book collector admiring an original, unknown Shakespear manuscript, will remove my atrio MG7s from their carrying case and plug in. Before I proceed, I will check to make sure all volume levels are at max, EQ levels from 250hz on down are appropriately elevated and then select the 'trauma bass' playlist.  I look at the 'now playing' screen and see that it is positioned, as always, on the first song - Closer, by NIN.  And just before I tap that little 'play' arrow, I take in a deep breath, check my heart rate and then make sure I am adequately braced and prepared for what is about to happen.  And what follows is......well, I wont even waste words trying to describe it.  That would be utterly futile.  What I will say is that, given my tastes, likes, dislikes and musical preferences, what happens in the next 6 minutes and 13 seconds, is, for me, sonic nirvana.  And as many times as I have played that scenario out, I have never been anything less that utterly struck stupid with awe.  It is a period of time in which life as I know it ceases to exist.  I am transported somewhere else, far far away where nothing matters save for Mr. Reznor's ecstatically brutal and savage assault on my audio senses and sensibilities. The kick drum in this song, under the described conditions, is, without doubt, the most incredible audio experience I have ever (or will hope to ever) have/had.  Especially during the song's maniacal and desperate climax when Reznor lays into the bass drum with a para-military like rhythmic drive.  The resonance blasts through your ear drums and travels to the depth of your bones.  It permeates your entire physical being.

 

And for me, that is as good as bass gets, and it serves as the yard stick for which I measure true top bass performance at its most extreme.  And you can only get there one way - with the right stuff.  What amazes me about the MG7s is that it doesn't matter how much volume you feed them...how much EQ you give the bass, these earphones absorb it and in turn produce the most incredible bass and sub bass of the highest quality.  And does so effortlessly as if to say 'that's all you got'?  Sure, there may be other earphones that may manage to produce better quality, but not at the MG7s quantity.

 

And this is where the W4Rs fall short. Way short.  I managed to get decent bass out of them, but it always felt like I was having to do so by putting a gun to their head....like I had to beat them into submission and then constantly hold my breath hoping they don't start clipping or distorting, or otherwise becoming muddy. And this was very disappointing given the fact that 2 of the 4 W4s BAs are dedicated to bass.  But as even Westone explains it, the double bass drivers are to to ensure accuracy, not necessarily quantity, and, accurate they are.  Just a shame there is not more of it.  And don't get me wrong - I am not bashing the W4s at all.  They are superb.  It's just that I reserve them for things like Niel Diamond, Abbra Moore, Heart and Emerson, Lake and Palmer's 'Lucky Man'.  But for serious bass....the kind of bass that will permanently affect your vision...I turn to the big dogs.

 

But, I mean, that's me.  What do I know.  It's just my .02 is all.  I'm one of those people who really don't care what Mr. Reznor's original intention was for the song - how HE felt it should be listened to.  I really don't care.  I like what I like.  End of story.

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Originally Posted by Eugguy View Post

if I were to read this forum now after seeing all of the failed earpiece drivers lately, I may have never even decided to purchase. I am actually still a little concerned in some ways. For such an amazing sounding IEM, the build and quality control seems to be shakey for a lot of the HF's here. 
Don't follow you. Can count on one hand the ppl reporting driver failure and each one got a new set in exchange from Shure. You learn more about a company when things go wrong because no matter who you are it is impossible to have 100% success rate

Also Shure are big and have international support. Compare to hassle of warranty repair with Asian boutiques who will still help but more is involved. And worth pointing out Shure probably have sold many more iem than these companies!
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Don't follow you. Can count on one hand the ppl reporting driver failure and each one got a new set in exchange from Shure. You learn more about a company when things go wrong because no matter who you are it is impossible to have 100% success rate

Also Shure are big and have international support. Compare to hassle of warranty repair with Asian boutiques who will still help but more is involved. And worth pointing out Shure probably have sold many more iem than these companies!

 

If I remember correctly there was a bunch at the launch which had problems, then Shure replaced them and fixed the problem.

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From my experience, they sound much cleaner after about a day.

 

Bass wise, I havn't heard the MG7, but from my other experience with dual dynamics, the impact/punch should be similar, but the texture is behind. So for a bass centric song, it won't sound as good, but for general pop etc, it definitely sounds good.

 

I also have my w4r with me, the 846 definitely sounds better, especially bass impact, where you can only hear the impact on the w4r occasionally.

 

Take a look at the comparison between 846 and w60 on earphonesolutions, I decided not to wait for the w60 because the 846 sounds more fun. But apparently w60 has better mids and very similar bass with a laid back signature.

 

Not exactly. The mids can be problematic on the W60. From the review: "While the W60 has very clear and balanced music quality, some of the mid frequencies can be so clear that they begin to sound a bit screechy. I’ve only found this problem in a select few songs where specific sound effects and sound distortions (like ones used in electronic songs) are frequently used."

 

I'm guessing the W60 has forward mids as the reviewer described the mids as clear and strong vocals. That reminds me of the Shure SE535.


Edited by ubs28 - 5/12/14 at 12:49pm
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Not exactly. The mids can be problematic on the W60. From the review: "While the W60 has very clear and balanced music quality, some of the mid frequencies can be so clear that they begin to sound a bit screechy. I’ve only found this problem in a select few songs where specific sound effects and sound distortions (like ones used in electronic songs) are frequently used."

 

I'm guessing the W60 has forward mids as the reviewer described the mids as clear and strong vocals. That reminds me of the Shure SE535.

 

There may be problems with specific sound effects but overall (considering both reviews) the mids are better, otherwise his statement "the W60 will please those who enjoy orchestras and vocal-heavy music" near the end of the review will not be true.

 

also they both describe the w60 as balanced, so there should be no forward mids. 

 

I am interested in hearing this soundstage the guy whom wrote "battle of the titans" was talking about.

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I will talk with Sweetwater. They are working perfectly again. I will see if they will give me 90 days. I hate to send em back. I would like to atleast run them for a week to see if anything happens again.

 

 

Hey Todd.  Now you are making me a little concerned.  Mine will be here tomorrow from the same source.  All sweetwater will do is  box them and send them to shure.  My advice would be to spend the time with them and see if the problem is consistent, or even, it goes away.  I'd hate to see you send them back unnecessarily, but by the same token, that is too much money to be experiencing problems. Even if you do work them out yourself.  The expectation should be that you take them out of the box and they work as advertised.  Period.  Otherwise, it may taint your whole ownership experience.

 

Personally, I hope it turns out to be something silly and simple.  Still, I am concerned.  Please keep me up to date.

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Has anyone tried the Dragonfly, GEEK, or any other budget amp/dac with the 846?  Looking for something to try out at the office.


Will let you know how they sound with a Fiio E11 tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post

With the 846 you can change filters to suit your sonic tastes whereas all you can change on the W60 is the faceplate.

 

 

Well said. 

 

And true.

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....I mean, that's me.  What do I know.  It's just my .02 is all.  I'm one of those people who really don't care what Mr. Reznor's original intention was for the song - how HE felt it should be listened to.  I really don't care.  I like what I like.  End of story.

 

WoW rmiller, that was one fine piece of decriptive work. You created a perfectly clear picture of sound with your words. Reads like yours really stand out as the reason why I weed through literally thousands of posts just to every-once-in-awhile hit on a jem like yours.

 

......................:beerchug:.....................

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Back in the day, I was a car audio basshead who didn't really  care much for the hard kick and high SPL levels. I just wanted full-bodied bass and deep sub-bass  And today, I think I got a  similar thing with the 846. The mid bass bump is not there with the 846 unless you EQ it back in (and I did).

 

My IE8 kicks harder (on its highest setting) and my UE Superfi 5 EB kicks even harder still. Neither of those can achieve the depth and quality of the 846. You get the good bass without suffering thru the hard kicking and that allows you to focus on the mids and highs.


I wouldn't have known that the 846 could go deeper than my dynamic IEMs if I hadn't installed Viper4Android (V4A) on my Note 3. I had V4A on my Galaxy S2, but the Note 3 can go deeper and the mids are taller (bigger). If you use a phone as a source for the 846, I recommend the ones with the Snapdragon 800 or 801 SoC and V4A along with Poweramp.

 

 

Sound like a guy after my own heart.  If you love the 846 bass, then I will too.  I use a fuze+ player and a Galaxy S4.  The S4 a little more, though.  I use poweramp and the fiio e11 (as I have told you before).  Tried to install viper but that's not happening today. Very involved process.  I have a snapdragon 600 using kit kat.  There is an apparent problem obtaining root rights, which in turn affects busybody, which in turn affects the cpu version detection, blah, blah, blah.   But, I will figure it out.  I always do.  Anyway, thanks so much for the insight and advice.  I think you and I like the same sound signature probably, so I will be paying close attention to YOUR posts.  Again, thanks1 

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