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post #1861 of 16770
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Originally Posted by ag8908 View Post
 

FYI I just slightly improved the sound quality by cutting about 2, maybe 3, millimeters off the tip of my Comply Professional tips (I wear medium). They're also easier to insert now and I don't this cost me any isolation either. Why are the professional tips so long?

 

You might want to give the Ts-100 or Tsx-100 tips a try.  They're shorter in length but with large size I find that I still get good isolation despite the resulting shallower insertion.

post #1862 of 16770
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Originally Posted by ag8908 View Post
 

FYI I just slightly improved the sound quality by cutting about 2, maybe 3, millimeters off the tip of my Comply Professional tips (I wear medium). They're also easier to insert now and I don't this cost me any isolation either. Why are the professional tips so long?

I did the exact same thing on the large comply professionals, I found them to be too long and would irritate my ear.. 

post #1863 of 16770
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Originally Posted by Tony1110 View Post

Even if the AK240 sounds great with the Shures, which it no doubt does, I'd still take some time to listen to the cheaper alternatives in order to satisfy myself that it'd be worth the step up in price. The X5 is said to be a great little player and even the HM-901 is half the price of the AK240. The new iBasso looks promising too, and there's always the cheaper A&K players.

The AK240 might appeal to me if I was using desktop gear as it could serve as a very nice DAC and also double up as a portable player. Even for that purpose though, I'd choose the Chord HUGO any day of the week :-)

I have the X5,the AK100,AK120 and the AK240.
The AK240 is superior to the others by quite a margin.
Decided to ebay the 100 and 120 but keep the X5 for walking.
AK240 too expensive to actually treat roughly so home use only.
If you can afford it get the 240.
Mind you I am of the opinion a phone is a phone not a music player. I like gadgets that do one thing and do it well.
post #1864 of 16770

I think that the new emerging (sort of) DAP by LH Labs is to be considered with the SE846. Have a look at that: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/geek-wave-make-your-smartphone-s-sound-sound-better   take a look at the specs https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/geek-wave-make-your-smartphone-s-sound-sound-better#techspecs

 

BTW, I did order their GeekOut DAC/AMP GeekOUT 450mw; hope it will arrive soon to be tested with my SE846 (see review: http://parttimeaudiophile.com/2014/03/28/geek-out-1000/


Edited by zolom - 4/15/14 at 12:27am
post #1865 of 16770
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Originally Posted by ubs28 View Post
 

How much better would the AK240 sound with the Shure SE846 in comparison to the iPhone 5S? 

 

I posted this question in the Portable Source Gear section but I didn't get an answer. 

 

Err, amazingly better! The iPhone 5s is a phone, not a music player. All of the AK240 is dedicated to producing a top notch sound, and the owner will pay for that (I have one - it's incredible, especially with SE846's and a balanced cable). This iPhone 5s is designed to be as cheap as possible in order for apple to make as much profit as possible - its sound is an afterthought. 

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It seems a person who already has an iPhone should simply buy a Chord Hugo (instead of an AK240). They should also buy some cargo pants with huge pockets so that the Hugo scrapes against their knee when they walk. They won't care because the beautiful sound will "heal" their pain (knee and wallet).

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Can anyone confirm if there is a noticable hiss with the SE846 and the Sony NW-ZX1? Thinking about pulling the trigger on one of these, had a Fiio X3, iBasso DX50, and HM-901 recently and had alot of white noise or hiss with the iBasso DX50. I was able to get ahold of a Fiio X5 and that what I am using now, but the sound seems lacking something and am looking at trying the Sony. I can't find any spec on output impedance of the NW-ZX1, so not sure on that one either. 

post #1868 of 16770

Sony's portable amp has a high output, no idea about the dap though.

post #1869 of 16770
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Originally Posted by y2jdmbfan View Post
 

Can anyone confirm if there is a noticable hiss with the SE846 and the Sony NW-ZX1? Thinking about pulling the trigger on one of these, had a Fiio X3, iBasso DX50, and HM-901 recently and had alot of white noise or hiss with the iBasso DX50. I was able to get ahold of a Fiio X5 and that what I am using now, but the sound seems lacking something and am looking at trying the Sony. I can't find any spec on output impedance of the NW-ZX1, so not sure on that one either. 

 

Yes there is noticeable hiss with Sony zx1 & Shure 846 but it does not get in the way of the music. I can't hear it when music is playing, not even on silent classical passage, the hiss is not there all the time, it disappear once in a while.

 

The ZX1 Output imp is not published.

post #1870 of 16770
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Originally Posted by y2jdmbfan View Post
 

Can anyone confirm if there is a noticable hiss with the SE846 and the Sony NW-ZX1? Thinking about pulling the trigger on one of these, had a Fiio X3, iBasso DX50, and HM-901 recently and had alot of white noise or hiss with the iBasso DX50. I was able to get ahold of a Fiio X5 and that what I am using now, but the sound seems lacking something and am looking at trying the Sony. I can't find any spec on output impedance of the NW-ZX1, so not sure on that one either. 

Can you give us an idea of what you didn't like with the X5 846 pairing? 

post #1871 of 16770
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Originally Posted by Roscoeiii View Post
 

Can you give us an idea of what you didn't like with the X5 846 pairing? 

 

It's hard to put my finger on it. I think it appears as though I am missing clarity and definition compared to the HM-901 and IEM card I was using. The main reason for not keeping the HM-901 was the portability factor, or lack there-of. The music seems kind of dull now, I am not very good at describing these things, but I am trying my best... :)

post #1872 of 16770
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Originally Posted by piercer View Post
 

The iPhone 5s is a phone, not a music player. All of the AK240 is dedicated to producing a top notch sound, and the owner will pay for that (I have one - it's incredible, especially with SE846's and a balanced cable). This iPhone 5s is designed to be as cheap as possible in order for apple to make as much profit as possible - its sound is an afterthought. 

Last time I checked, an iPhone appeared to be better built than the $29 prepaid phones they sell at Wal-Mart - so I think there is an actual effort to make a quality product. Defending iRiver and the AK240 with its $2500 price tag as somehow being altruistic in its pricing is absurd. The fact that it still takes another $500 and a few hours with a soldering iron by a guy named Vinnie to sound its best is icing on the cake.:biggrin:

post #1873 of 16770
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Originally Posted by Audiowood View Post
 

 

Yes there is noticeable hiss with Sony zx1 & Shure 846 but it does not get in the way of the music. I can't hear it when music is playing, not even on silent classical passage, the hiss is not there all the time, it disappear once in a while.

 

The ZX1 Output imp is not published.

 

Hmmm, the hiss really annoyed me on the iBasso DX50, maybe I should stay away from the ZX1. Have you the SE846 with the iBasso DX50 by any chance to compare the hiss? 


Edited by y2jdmbfan - 4/15/14 at 11:23am
post #1874 of 16770
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Originally Posted by Ivabign View Post
 

Last time I checked, an iPhone appeared to be better built than the $29 prepaid phones they sell at Wal-Mart - so I think there is an actual effort to make a quality product. Defending iRiver and the AK240 with its $2500 price tag as somehow being altruistic in its pricing is absurd. The fact that it still takes another $500 and a few hours with a soldering iron by a guy named Vinnie to sound its best is icing on the cake.:biggrin:

 

OK, I concede that the iPhone 5s is a high-end PHONE, but it is definitely not a high-end DAP.

 

Your second argument is stupid. Any thing can be modified by anybody to improve it, nothing is perfect.

 

When you say 'sound its best' you mean 'sound better'. The AK240 sounds amazing out of the box. Apparently Vinnie can do some stuff to it to make it sound better. I bet if you then took the Vinnie modified AK240 and spent another $1000 on modifying it you could make it sound even better. Then you spend another $10000 modifying that to make it sound better - ad infinitum and ad nauseam... UNTIL you have enough storage space to store a digital music file that's discretization is indistinguishable from an analogue signal at the quantum level, and pass this through a DAC/amp that behaves identically to a piece of wire with gain (a perfect amp is essentially a wire with gain), then maybe it will be difficult to imagine how to improve it :-)

post #1875 of 16770

I didn't mean to offend you - ouch. :confused_face(1):

 

I wouldn't say the second argument is "stupid." Certainly with an unlimited amount of money, you can make any item "better." But this guy makes a living making these items better - perhaps there is something in the design that could have more time spent on it - or perhaps if some of the considerable margin iRiver makes on each one would have been better spent on an additional engineering "hand on the deck."  

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