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post #1771 of 6151

I can't tell (by listening) how good a particular DAC might be because I can't separate it from the rest of the components (and the software). I've witnessed smartphones sound better with a change in software. For my Galaxy S1, it was Voodoo. For my Note 3, it is Viper4Android. Suddenly there's clarity and sub-bass that I wouldn't have thought possible from that particular phone.

post #1772 of 6151

Earlier someone wrote a post saying that the black, blue and white filters have the exact same amount of bass at a  particular source volume level. I checked the manual and it confirms this (it says that the white filter adds 2.5db from 1khz to 8khz and the black filter subtracts 2.5db from that range).

 

The first time I used the white filter, I could have sworn it had less bass, but I didn't really listen to it much since I went with the blue.

 

But now after listening carefully, I think the manual/other poster might be right, and that the white and blue filter have the same amount of bass. I only listened to one song, though, so nothing conclusive.

 

Any other opinions on this question?

 

If this is the case, and the white and blue do have the same amount of bass, then I'm moving to the white filter. Why would I want treble roll-off / reduction when I can have a neutral headphone?

 

Edit: I think you have to listen to a track that puts out a lot of bass, or that only puts out bass, because otherwise the white filter's additional treble might make it seem like it has less bass, when in fact it has the same amount of bass if you measure it scientifically. All half guesses though as I'm not an expert on this stuff.


Edited by ag8908 - 4/1/14 at 2:48pm
post #1773 of 6151

P.S. I'm surprised that no one has yet tried these without any filter.

 

I would, but I'm afraid of this happening:

 

post #1774 of 6151

White is no filter.  It's just an acoustic screen to protect the drivers from wax.

post #1775 of 6151

I suggest if you really want to see how amazing these head phones are, download Sting - A thousand years, it has a really deep rumble in the intro, and I never got the shake from other IEM's .  Intense man, intense, first time I've felt the base with an IEM.

post #1776 of 6151
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post
 

White is no filter.  It's just an acoustic screen to protect the drivers from wax.

Hmm when I listened to them without any filter in place, they were VERY bright and sibilant with no bass. With the filter, it sounded very different and controlled. I think that the plastic polymer and the change in the bore diameter due to the white filter plays a role in changing the sound.

post #1777 of 6151
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Originally Posted by acadia View Post
 

I suggest if you really want to see how amazing these head phones are, download Sting - A thousand years, it has a really deep rumble in the intro, and I never got the shake from other IEM's .  Intense man, intense, first time I've felt the base with an IEM.


can you hear that rumble on your setup with the white filter?

post #1778 of 6151
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Originally Posted by ottotron View Post
 

Hmm when I listened to them without any filter in place, they were VERY bright and sibilant with no bass. 

 

Yes but that is because without the "filter" in place there is no seal between the driver housing and the nozzle.  The white filter however has no acoustic damper like the blue and black do.  Google it and /facepalm that it's being sold as some super tech =)  If anything be annoyed that Shure made the nozzle keyed so you can't use knowles dampers of whatever impedance you'd like to, sigh.

post #1779 of 6151
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can you hear that rumble on your setup with the white filter?

I use the white filter when listening to modern music, try Porcupine Tree's "Open Car" or "Blackest Eyes" trust me your ears will feel the rumble.
post #1780 of 6151

I'm wondering if he hears the same amount of bass with the white filter on that song or less bass.

post #1781 of 6151
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Originally Posted by ag8908 View Post

I'm wondering if he hears the same amount of bass with the white filter on that song or less bass.

For you, I just A/B and the bass is the same between the white and the blue filter. With the white it may seem less because of the boast in the treble but to me the bass is the same.
post #1782 of 6151
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For you, I just A/B and the bass is the same between the white and the blue filter. With the white it may seem less because of the boast in the treble but to me the bass is the same.

tx. i'm switching to the white filter. why waste all that good mid/treble sound?

post #1783 of 6151

I figure Shure didn't call white neutral because it would have been... neutral, warm, dark ;)

post #1784 of 6151
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I figure Shure didn't call white neutral because it would have been... neutral, warm, dark wink.gif

Truly hehehe
post #1785 of 6151
Need some thoughts here guys. Hope to get some opinions. I'll be needing a replacement for my left ear piece due to a connector issue. The question is, will there be any channel imbalance with a new driver on the left and a 2 months old driver on the right. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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