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post #1696 of 16769
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Originally Posted by Tony1110 View Post


It's output impedance is 0.26 Ω.

 

Different X5... he has the iAudio from 2005 not Fiio from 2014 ;)

 

Doh! Wrote this as you wrote you corrected yourself.

post #1697 of 16769
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Originally Posted by bjoern View Post
 

Hi guys,

Bought myself a pair of SE846 after my trusty W2 gave up. I usually buy what I like and play it till it dies... I just couldn't resist myself when I heard the SE846, so they are mine now. No regrets, just happy listening!

Anyway, I write here to get some advice, if possible. My source is another gem, an iAudio X5. I am looking to replace it for a number of reasons, but my question is about SQ together with the SE846. I feel that I could get some more sparkle out of these IEMs, and I also experience that the music tends to sound a bit uncontrolled when it gets a bit rough, like with some rock music. Is this control thing an amp issue?

The iAudio will be replaced no matter what, so I am looking for a new source, which can be a DAP or a source+amp. A one box solution would be convenient... What do you guys think make the SE846 sing in a sparkling and controlled way? At this point I will leave the cost out of the equation. I am willing to buy something that does the Shures justice, but let's keep it reasonable... SQ first.

I am scanning the forums to get wiser, but...

I will try the different filters too.

 

Thanks in advance

/Björn

 

One of the best amp/Dac to get more sparkle, more mid with very control bass with 846 is the Dacport 1ohm mode with lower gain mode. Very clean and dark background.

post #1698 of 16769
I'd think that even at 1 ohm, the DacPort would be too high impedance for the 846.
post #1699 of 16769

Output impedance issues are overblown around here.  A 1 ohm output would cause a whopping 1dB maximum variance to the "normal" response.  That's effectively nothing.

post #1700 of 16769
I'd be sure to compare with a lower output impedance source to confirm that something undesirable isn't happening due to an impedance mismatch.
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Originally Posted by Roscoeiii View Post

I'd think that even at 1 ohm, the DacPort would be too high impedance for
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Originally Posted by Roscoeiii View Post

I'd be sure to compare with a lower output impedance source to confirm that something undesirable isn't happening due to an impedance mismatch.

I don't hear any undesirable stuff with all my 1 ohm amp so far.
post #1702 of 16769
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Originally Posted by Audiowood View Post

I don't hear any undesirable stuff with all my 1 ohm amp so far.

That's great.

Have you compared with a source that has an impedance considered to be at a more ideal level for the low ohm 846s?
post #1703 of 16769

I don't think it's all about impedance.  Clip+ has low impedance and a very good player.  Fiio products, very low, but not quite up to the level of Clip+ or ODAC/O2 or my Galaxy S4(1.2 output impedance)

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I use an IPod Classic into an ALO LOD into an RSA Shadow.  Sounds good to me..  

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Originally Posted by Roscoeiii View Post

Have you compared with a source that has an impedance considered to be at a more ideal level for the low ohm 846s?

 

I use the GS-X and AK100 mk2... both good matches for different situations.  On the road the minor decrease in upper mids or minor increase in bass through lower mids depending on how you prefer to think about it helps drown out background noise.

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Originally Posted by bjoern View Post

Hi guys,
Bought myself a pair of SE846 after my trusty W2 gave up. I usually buy what I like and play it till it dies... I just couldn't resist myself when I heard the SE846, so they are mine now. No regrets, just happy listening!
Anyway, I write here to get some advice, if possible. My source is another gem, an iAudio X5. I am looking to replace it for a number of reasons, but my question is about SQ together with the SE846. I feel that I could get some more sparkle out of these IEMs, and I also experience that the music tends to sound a bit uncontrolled when it gets a bit rough, like with some rock music. Is this control thing an amp issue?
The iAudio will be replaced no matter what, so I am looking for a new source, which can be a DAP or a source+amp. A one box solution would be convenient... What do you guys think make the SE846 sing in a sparkling and controlled way? At this point I will leave the cost out of the equation. I am willing to buy something that does the Shures justice, but let's keep it reasonable... SQ first.
I am scanning the forums to get wiser, but...
I will try the different filters too.

Thanks in advance
/Björn

Bjorn, I have tried Hifiman HM901, Astell&Kern AK100 (mark I), Fiio X5, Colorfly C4, ibasso DX50. The HM901 and X5 gave the best control, the AK100's control was good too, but compared to the HM901 and X5, it lacks a bit of air and transparency. The HM901 gave a hard hitting bass while X5 sounded more natural to me.
post #1707 of 16769

I still have my old iAudio X5...I used to love that thing.  Terrible battery life once it gets old...I think it will only last 30 minutes or so on a full charge now.  I never got around to sending it back to Cowan to have it changed.  Ok....as far as SQ with the 846's, I've tried two DAPs:  The Sony NWF-806 32gb and the Fiio X3.  I used the Sony with a line out cable to a Fiio E17 DAC/Amp, and  I used the Fiio X3 by itself.  IMHO, the X3 sounds better.  Oh, I've also tried the X3 with a Fiio E12 Amp attached to the line out, but I prefer it by itself for ease of portability (IE - I can fit the X3 and SE846 in the included clear Shure case).  I've read that the X3 uses the same DAC/AMP featured in the E17, but I haven't researched it to verify.  The X3 has 8gb build in along with a Micro SD slot for up to 64gb cards (128gb with future firmware update).  I've read articles where people had issues using a 64gb card, but I've had absolutely no issues whatsoever...all I did was read the included documents and follow the instructions.  :-)  The Sony/E17 combo set me back around $385, and the X3 was a Black Friday special for only $89.  If you can hold off a bit, the Fiio X5 is right around the corner.  It's the new and improved version with 2xMicro SD slots for around $350.  Quick question....did you try changing the neutral filter out for more sparkle already?  I'm assuming you probably did that.

post #1708 of 16769
Thanks a lot for your replies, I really appreciate you answering yet another question of this character.
It's not the first time I hear that the HM901 and FiiO X5 work well with the SE846, so I will keep them in mind. There are also always new exciting products entering the market. DX90 might be worth the wait...
The only "audiophile" portable source available for listening around here is the Colorfly, so I guess I will make my choice based on other peoples' opinions...
post #1709 of 16769

Dacport is listed as 10ohm output impedance...

Listen people...

I heard that the Nexus 7 has very high output impedance but the 846 sound great out of it

http://monoadc.blog64.fc2.com/blog-entry-99.html says 100ohm but this might be the first gen and I have the second gen

 

I heard it ouf of my LG G2, also good

I heard if out of my Aune T1 that has 5ohm impedance, also good.

I understand that isn't supposed to sound good with the 846, what am I supposed to hear because of the high output impedance?


Edited by BaTou069 - 3/22/14 at 2:33am
post #1710 of 16769
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Originally Posted by bjoern View Post

Thanks a lot for your replies, I really appreciate you answering yet another question of this character.
It's not the first time I hear that the HM901 and FiiO X5 work well with the SE846, so I will keep them in mind. There are also always new exciting products entering the market. DX90 might be worth the wait...
The only "audiophile" portable source available for listening around here is the Colorfly, so I guess I will make my choice based on other peoples' opinions...
The 846 scales very well with the front end equipment, it sounded very nice with my SPL Phonitor desktop amp, so it's rewarding feeding it the best DAPs.
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