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post #1606 of 16770

Could someone comment about the differences between the 425 and the 846?

This is the jump I'm about to do, maybe tomorrow.... I'm pretty sure about this, but again...I need some supporting words :)

So could someone please comment on the differences? Thanks

post #1607 of 16770
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Originally Posted by ag8908 View Post
 

did goldendarkko ever get his 846 fixed?

 

Yes :) Well sort of, they finally responded to me and I sent it back it for a replacement which I am still waiting on, will update this thread once I get it and can listen to it for a bit (assuming there are no problems with the replacement unit)

post #1608 of 16770

Just read an odd 2.5 star review of the Shure 846 on this site claiming it isn't better than the Shure 535.  I know everyone hears things differently, but dang, that is a strange outlier.  

 

It's interesting how someone's perspective of headphones change over time.  If I first started on this hobby and I just had a Apple earbud, a Koss KSC50, and a Shure 846, I would probably say the Shure 846 was the worst return on investment.  Over time though, I'd probably keep the Apple earbuds in the box, consider the KSC50 my new one star headphone, and make the Shure 846 a five star IEM.  

 

Have we really come that far from the Shure 535?  Not certain.  All I can say is that the Shure 535 was a giant leap above most of the universals out there when it was first released, and the 846 is another step up.

post #1609 of 16770

I wouldn't consider that review valid at all. The person who made that review has no posts, no profile, no nothing except for that one review. Although to be honest the difference between the 1k priced iems and $500 or so isn't all that huge but having no difference sounds suspect to me.

post #1610 of 16770

engineering wise the 846 and 535 are not comparable. there is a lot more meat under the hood of the 846, how else could it deliver that subwoofer. I really like the 846 IEM as a portable direct to ipod device. Im not convinced its designed for true sonic portrayal, but to enhance the listening experience through an I phone etc....Its good ....

post #1611 of 16770
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Originally Posted by utdeep View Post
 

Just read an odd 2.5 star review of the Shure 846 on this site claiming it isn't better than the Shure 535.  I know everyone hears things differently, but dang, that is a strange outlier.  

 

It's interesting how someone's perspective of headphones change over time.  If I first started on this hobby and I just had a Apple earbud, a Koss KSC50, and a Shure 846, I would probably say the Shure 846 was the worst return on investment.  Over time though, I'd probably keep the Apple earbuds in the box, consider the KSC50 my new one star headphone, and make the Shure 846 a five star IEM.  

 

Have we really come that far from the Shure 535?  Not certain.  All I can say is that the Shure 535 was a giant leap above most of the universals out there when it was first released, and the 846 is another step up.


I've never heard it, but I would be shocked if the 535 delivers the bass of the 846; frankly I doubt any other IEM out there can deliver its smooth clean bass. It's really quite good. But all opinions are welcome including this gentleman's.

 

In my humble opinion, I think sometimes people will buy something they really can't afford (really, who can afford a $1,000 IEM? lol) and then that will psychologically cause them to hate it and view the one they had as just as good. Not saying that happened with this gentleman, but it's something to keep in mind.


Edited by ag8908 - 3/11/14 at 2:51pm
post #1612 of 16770

I heard a 535 a while back and didn't care for it at all. Thought the bass was nondescript, the highs biting and one note, and the stage not very spacious (this all from memory of course). Now that I have the 846, it is one of my favorite phones of all time; that should say something about the difference. Normally one would like the Shure house sound, but I never did until this one, and now I can't imagine being without this phone. They've righted all the missteps from my memory of the 535... 

post #1613 of 16770

Well, I have both the 846 and 535 right here by my laptop. I just listened to both out of my iPod Touch 5G with a song that didn't have much bass in it (with the volume low), and the difference is not that substantial. The 846 is a little darker and a little bit better, but it's not dramatic.

 

I have a Cowon iA9, but I need to charge it. From memory, the iA9 doesn't do sub-bass (almost at all). It's not the same one as the reviewer, but if it's similar in that respect, he (or she) may not notice the difference. He (or she) like me, is getting a good seal with the triple-flanges, so (using those), the 535 does have bass and does not have treble spikes.

 

Moving up to my V4A phones, the difference becomes oh so apparent. The 846 is better (bigger sounding) at everything than the 535 and especially in what Shure claims about the sub-bass effect.

post #1614 of 16770

does the effects app viper4android really make that much of a difference? wow

post #1615 of 16770
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Originally Posted by ag8908 View Post
 

does the effects app viper4android really make that much of a difference? wow

 

Let me put it this way (as I've just tried this), I can get more sub-bass rumble out of the 535 on my Galaxy S2 (with V4A) than I can out of the 846 on my iPod Touch 5G (using Onkyo, Denon, Accudio, ,Sonic Max, EQu, Equalizer, or whatever).

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Originally Posted by truckdriver View Post
 

Well, I have both the 846 and 535 right here by my laptop. I just listened to both out of my iPod Touch 5G with a song that didn't have much bass in it (with the volume low), and the difference is not that substantial. The 846 is a little darker and a little bit better, but it's not dramatic.

 

I have a Cowon iA9, but I need to charge it. From memory, the iA9 doesn't do sub-bass (almost at all). It's not the same one as the reviewer, but if it's similar in that respect, he (or she) may not notice the difference. He (or she) like me, is getting a good seal with the triple-flanges, so (using those), the 535 does have bass and does not have treble spikes.

 

Moving up to my V4A phones, the difference becomes oh so apparent. The 846 is better (bigger sounding) at everything than the 535 and especially in what Shure claims about the sub-bass effect.

 

I think part of why you didn't hear much difference between the two with that song is because the 846 does not falsely throw in mid bass where there is not any in the recorded material. If the song is lean, then it will sound that way to a T. 

 

The low end with the Sony ZX1, if music has crazy low reach, is truly amazing. I never recall the 535 doing bass like that on my previous Sony DAPs. 

post #1617 of 16770
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I think part of why you didn't hear much difference between the two with that song is because the 846 does not falsely throw in mid bass where there is not any in the recorded material. If the song is lean, then it will sound that way to a T. 

The low end with the Sony ZX1, if music has crazy low reach, is truly amazing. I never recall the 535 doing bass like that on my previous Sony DAPs. 

That's the very combination I'm looking at getting for myself. Have you had the opportunity to compare the ZX1 to the Astell & Kern players with the Shures and other IEMs?
post #1618 of 16770
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Originally Posted by Whazzzup View Post
 

engineering wise the 846 and 535 are not comparable. there is a lot more meat under the hood of the 846, how else could it deliver that subwoofer. I really like the 846 IEM as a portable direct to ipod device. Im not convinced its designed for true sonic portrayal, but to enhance the listening experience through an I phone etc....Its good ....

 

I haven't heard the Shure SE846 yet, but can't you just EQ the Shure SE535 to create a nice deep bass? The Shure SE535 measures flat in the low end so it has no missing frequencies.

post #1619 of 16770

Yup.  I did the same with the ER-4P.  Worked like a charm at home with the JRiver parametric EQ, not so much with the 5 band AK100 EQ.  Helps that the 846 is more comfortable, doesn't need EQ and since I sold my LCD-3 after getting the 846... it saved me money?  Huh =)

post #1620 of 16770
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Originally Posted by Whazzzup View Post

 
engineering wise the 846 and 535 are not comparable. there is a lot more meat under the hood of the 846, how else could it deliver that subwoofer. I really like the 846 IEM as a portable direct to ipod device. Im not convinced its designed for true sonic portrayal, but to enhance the listening experience through an I phone etc....Its good ....

I haven't heard the Shure SE846 yet, but can't you just EQ the Shure SE535 to create a nice deep bass? The Shure SE535 measures flat in the low end so it has no missing frequencies.

IMO eq is not an option. The music as intended should be flat through the amp, sure max the gain, but the cans must deliver the sound as intended. If you don't like the sound, change the amp, and specifically change the cans,I em or otherwise.
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