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Wow nice setup.

 

Your perspective is interesting because the more common taste seems to be to prefer the spatial characteristics offered by speakers over those of headphones, and especially over IEMs but it's all subjective.

 

I tend to prefer speakers when I'm just watching at home in my living room too, but I definitely get the appeal of sticking to headphones.  For $1500, you can have a great headphone system, or at least something well into the land of diminishing returns.  $1500 towards a speaker system buys you very little unless you go used.

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$1500 towards a speaker system buys you very little unless you go used.

oh how very true that is lol

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I bought a SE846, and I am loving every minute I spend with it, but I am using it out from a Rockboxed Clip Zip. Any recommendations for an upgrade?

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I bought a SE846, and I am loving every minute I spend with it, but I am using it out from a Rockboxed Clip Zip. Any recommendations for an upgrade?

 

Based on the innerfidelity measurements and Shure's specs, the SE846 is an extremely low impedance headphone that will produce very high decibels with a relatively miniscule amount of watts. I haven't ever heard it, but based on its specs it should be louder than other average IEMs at the same volume level (by the way, I wonder if Shure did this on purpose, realizing that the public generally views "louder" as "better sounding" a trick played by many audiophile products, see also MOG vs Spotify [MOG is generally louder]).

 

Any way, based on that it should not need an amplifier and also please be careful not to damage your hearing. See this experiment I did earlier for more information. http://www.head-fi.org/t/706024/experiment-i-just-did-re-hearing-damage-and-iems

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The tuning for the low pass filter is what led to such a low output impedance. As noted in the following article Shure supports wider dynamic range in recordings not the louder dynamically compressed music. If you are looking at a cause (or who to blame) for the "Loudness War" than look no further than record companies and certain recording engineers. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war
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The tuning for the low pass filter is what led to such a low output impedance. 

 

No.  The bass section has the highest impedance of the frequency range.  It's 150% the impedance of the mid ba and 300% of the treble ba.  That said the actual low pass filter has no effect on the electrical impedance only the crossover point and slope.

 


Edited by Solude - 2/28/14 at 4:01am
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I bought a SE846, and I am loving every minute I spend with it, but I am using it out from a Rockboxed Clip Zip. Any recommendations for an upgrade?
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No.  The bass section has the highest impedance of the frequency range.  It's 150% the impedance of the mid ba and 300% of the treble ba.  That said the actual low pass filter has no effect on the electrical impedance only the crossover point and slope.



I am sorry I was not clear. My theory is that in order for the 846 to have such a low frequency response required greater bass energy to overcome the low pass filter and consequently both the mids and highs required greater energy so not to be overwhelmed by the bass. As you correctly point out the mids and especially the treble have much greater impedance.
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We'd need to know the impedance of the BAs used to know if inline resistors were used as voltage dividers.  As an example, the BA used in the Etymotic line is only 9ohm but Ety uses rather higher value inline resistors to shape the curve.  91ohm in the case of the ER-4S, 18ohm for the ER-4P.  Pure speculation but at under 4ohm it's pretty safe to say the treble ba is being run wide open, 9ohm for the mids is also likely wide open and the 15ohm bass ba... could be using one to bring the levels down.  Tell you this much, I'm not popping mine open to find out ;)

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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post

The tuning for the low pass filter is what led to such a low output impedance. As noted in the following article Shure supports wider dynamic range in recordings not the louder dynamically compressed music. If you are looking at a cause (or who to blame) for the "Loudness War" than look no further than record companies and certain recording engineers. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

Wikipedia has everything.

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Well, I hate to say this but I feel like Shure has backed me into a corner now and I am feeling very frustrated with my purchase of the SE846's. Quite frankly this has been the worst purchase I have ever made. I received my SE846's on Monday only to find that the sound in the right earbud was going out, straight out of the box! The volume was very low at first and is now completely dead, have tried all tips and suggestions that I've read to get them working again but nada. To add to my dismay with these headphones, I contacted Shure on Monday (5 days ago) and have still yet to hear a response from them. To me this is just unacceptable To pay almost $1000 for a headphone that is supposed to be a flagship headphone, only to have it fail straight out of the box, and to not stand behind your product is absolutely unacceptable.

I have e-mailed Shure back to let them know I would be posting my frustrations with their "flagship" IEM on Head-Fi, and will update if they decide to get around to standing behind their headphone. As it is, I would recommend anyone considering the SE846 to stay far, far away because as of right now it has been a grand down the drain for me.
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That sucks they better take care of you.I have a warrantied pair coming soon myself.It's imperative to get the warranty on these.
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From what I understand, they should be under a 2 year warranty, my pair was brand new so I did not purchase any additional warranties from the dealer I bought them from (agiprodj.com)
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Where is the dealer that you purchased them from? Something doesn't fit here, the story incomplete. The dealer should sent a replacement pair and ra# them back to shure.
Ok now complete picture focus on agiprodj.com phone them. There shouldn't be a problem, and good luck.
Edited by Whazzzup - 3/1/14 at 3:36pm
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like I said, the dealer (agi) said to contact Shure about getting a replacement, Shure is the one not responding to phone/emails.
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