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post #1306 of 5735
Ya I don't get this whole upgrade thing, if you don't think the company has figured out the best, then wait for the next version or try a different brand. Then again chasing the dragon is always an option.
post #1307 of 5735
Yes but sometimes bespoke is better.
I prefer the double helix cables to the standard fit.
But i understand the chasing the dragon analogy as well.
We are victims of always thinking nirvana is just one tweak or one purchase away.
post #1308 of 5735
I'm thinking of trying the 846.
Can someone comment on the placement of the midrange (slightly recessed, neutral, slightly forward, or forward).
Can someone also comment on the clarity of the midrange (compare clearness to se530, um3x, fx700, ba200, or re262)
Finally, is the midrange smooth, slightly grainy, etc?

Thanks in advance.
post #1309 of 5735

One no grain.

 

Clarity is very good and forwardness is dependent on the filter ranging from neutral to recessed but no where near as recessed as the UM3X.

post #1310 of 5735
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Originally Posted by cn11 View Post
 

Some of these recent posts are discouraging me from trying out upgrade cables! 

I tried a pair of silver dragons and it made the 846's darker for some reason. I didn't like it and went back to the original cables. 

post #1311 of 5735

Hah, good to hear, in a way! I have a feeling Shure didn't skimp on a cable for their flagship $999 IEM.

post #1312 of 5735

Hey guys. Looking to buy this. The main reason I'm choosing this over the ie800 is its noise isolation (I have se425 and their noise isolation is amazing, like ear plugs). But what's weird is if you look on innerfidelity's website, Tyll claims that the white, and especially the black filter, offer terrible low frequency sound isolation. Is this true? Does anyone understand why this would be so? Why would the white and black filters so dramatically increase the amount of outside noise coming into your ears?

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/headphone-data-sheet-downloads

 

One other question. Is the bass obnoxious? I can't imagine Shure putting out a bass heavy headphone but I wanted to make sure. I like tight clean bass, like on the HD800 or the Audeze LCD XC, but I don't like earphones whose bass causes your ears to hurt in any way.


Edited by ag8908 - 2/25/14 at 5:25pm
post #1313 of 5735
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Originally Posted by Buddhahacker View Post
 

I tried a pair of silver dragons and it made the 846's darker for some reason. I didn't like it and went back to the original cables. 

LOL. I like this. Cool name too. And for $999 dollars, they had better make a cable that at least matches the drivers well. From what I have been listening to and hearing from the 846, it is clean and will be honest to your sources. 

post #1314 of 5735
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Originally Posted by ag8908 View Post
 

Hey guys. Looking to buy this. The main reason I'm choosing this over the ie800 is its noise isolation (I have se425 and their noise isolation is amazing, like ear plugs). But what's weird is if you look on innerfidelity's website, Tyll claims that the white, and especially the black filter, offer terrible low frequency sound isolation. Is this true? Does anyone understand why this would be so? Why would the white and black filters so dramatically increase the amount of outside noise coming into your ears?

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/headphone-data-sheet-downloads

 

One other question. Is the bass obnoxious? I can't imagine Shure putting out a bass heavy headphone but I wanted to make sure. I like tight clean bass, like on the HD800 or the Audeze LCD XC, but I don't like earphones whose bass causes your ears to hurt in any way.

Bass is present is the best answer. Sub-bass is presented very nicely and appropriately. If you have read the previous last pages, some users have stated that the 846 is the next closest sounding object in their ears to the LCD2, LCD3, TH900. This says a lot about the 846. 

post #1315 of 5735

I find the isolation to be the best of any Shure IEM that I own. But, you can PM Tyll (a member here) to better understand his reasoning.

 

As for your other question, just go back a few pages and a few pages before that...

post #1316 of 5735
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Originally Posted by truckdriver View Post
 

I find the isolation to be the best of any Shure IEM that I own. But, you can PM Tyll (a member here) to better understand his reasoning.

 

As for your other question, just go back a few pages and a few pages before that...

The 846 isolates REALLY well. I was surprised when I first had them on last night. My wife was speaking to me and I had only just put the 846 in my ears, no music yet. I couldn't hear her voice at all. (If she reads this, I'm dead...lol) But my wife is sweet, there is no reason to isolate her voice from my life. Music sounds so much better when you have headphones/IEMs that isolate well.


Edited by Eugguy - 2/25/14 at 6:33pm
post #1317 of 5735
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Originally Posted by Eugguy View Post
 

Bass is present is the best answer. Sub-bass is presented very nicely and appropriately. If you have read the previous last pages, some users have stated that the 846 is the next closest sounding object in their ears to the LCD2, LCD3, TH900. This says a lot about the 846. 

Oh good. I don't mind the LCDs. Never heard the TH900.

post #1318 of 5735
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Originally Posted by Eugguy View Post
 

The 846 isolates REALLY well. I was surprised when I first had them on last night. My wife was speaking to me and I had only just put the 846 in my ears, no music yet. I couldn't hear her voice at all. (If she reads this, I'm dead...lol) But my wife is sweet, there is no reason to isolate her voice from my life. Music sounds so much better when you have headphones/IEMs that isolate well.

 

 

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Originally Posted by truckdriver View Post
 

I find the isolation to be the best of any Shure IEM that I own. But, you can PM Tyll (a member here) to better understand his reasoning.

 

As for your other question, just go back a few pages and a few pages before that...

 

Oh no this wasn't Tyll's subjective opinion. He did scientific tests as shown on his charts. The SE846 isolate like any shure (and as an SE425 user I know they're as good as ear plugs) with the blue filter, but if you use the white filter isolation drops significantly and if you use the black filter it's almost like you don't have any isolation at all at low frequencies. (Edit: so I guess that proves that your wife doesn't have a deep manly voice lol).

 

Do the various filters create a hole in the SE846 in some way?


Edited by ag8908 - 2/25/14 at 6:37pm
post #1319 of 5735
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Originally Posted by ag8908 View Post



Oh no this wasn't Tyll's subjective opinion. He did scientific tests as shown on his charts. The SE846 isolate like any shure (and as an SE425 user I know they're as good as ear plugs) with the blue filter, but if you use the white filter isolation drops significantly and if you use the black filter it's almost like you don't have any isolation at all at low frequencies. (Edit: so I guess that proves that your wife doesn't have a deep manly voice lol).

Do the various filters create a hole in the SE846 in some way?

First off Tyll has never reviewed the 846 on InnerFidelity. IEMs are reviewed by Joker and he stated he could not secure a demo from Shure for testing. All Tyll posted were measurements done by Headroom.

Last THE FILTER HAS NO EFFECT ON THE ISOLATION!!!! The filter effects the frequency response NOT the isolation.
post #1320 of 5735
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post


First off Tyll has never reviewed the 846 on InnerFidelity. IEMs are reviewed by Joker and he stated he could not secure a demo from Shure for testing. All Tyll posted were measurements done by Headroom.

Last THE FILTER HAS NO EFFECT ON THE ISOLATION!!!! The filter effects the frequency response NOT the isolation.


Oh no he didn't accuse Tyll of using headroom's charts!

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