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post #526 of 920
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I would say SQ wise they're just about on par, but the noise isolation is much better on the P7s...so for portability where that's important the B&Ws...but both are still fantastic cans!

 

What is that sound??? Ah, it's the collective "Hallelujah!" from all of the M500 owners out there lol!

post #527 of 920
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What is that sound??? Ah, it's the collective "Hallelujah!" from all of the M500 owners out there lol!

Writing up my review on my comparative portable headphone thread...hopefully should have it out within a few days.

post #528 of 920
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Writing up my review on my comparative portable headphone thread...hopefully should have it out within a few days.

 

I was agonizingly looking forward to it! But your quick comparison above eased the agony considerably. :D

post #529 of 920
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I was agonizingly looking forward to it! But your quick comparison above eased the agony considerably. :D

:beerchug:

post #530 of 920
I would definitely agree with that. I guess if I hadn't bought the M500s first then I would have bagged the P7s. They are an awesome looking headphone and a massive improvement over the P5s. It will be interesting to see whether KEF responds with an around the ear headphone as well!
post #531 of 920
That would be hard to resist :-)
post #532 of 920

I'm still waiting for someone to do an in depth KEF M500 vs NAD Viso HP50 comparison :)

post #533 of 920

Tried out some phones for a short while

 

Momentum

Laidback.

 

M500

More forward and balanced sound.

 

Tiesto k267

Too bright which makes it un-listenable for long sessions. Very good sub bass. 

 

Summary.

To me M500 is more balanced and more stylish. All 3 of them are easily driven by my iPhone 5S. Portability wise M500 should be better since you can twist the headphones.

 

Anyone find my observation similar?

post #534 of 920
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

I would say SQ wise they're just about on par, but the noise isolation is much better on the P7s...so for portability where that's important the B&Ws...but both are still fantastic cans!

 

On this occasion cannot agree with "about par". P7 bigger sound, better separation and extension. M500 smaller soundstage, vocals slightly wonky sounding and less bass quantity. This is not preferences, like Audeze vs Fostex. This is technicalities. The main bad point about P7 is the high price-point

post #535 of 920
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On this occasion cannot agree with "about par". P7 bigger sound, better separation and extension. M500 smaller soundstage, vocals slightly wonky sounding and less bass quantity. This is not preferences, like Audeze vs Fostex. This is technicalities. The main bad point about P7 is the high price-point

 

Ehm... the M500 has a tad more bass than neutral. If the P7 has even more, how is that a technical advantage may I ask? 

post #536 of 920

could anyone compare m200 to tf10 and er-4p?

post #537 of 920
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Ehm... the M500 has a tad more bass than neutral. If the P7 has even more, how is that a technical advantage may I ask? 

 

OK, you can put bass quantity down to personal preference but for me the P7 bass quantity is not overdone. Neither does it bleed into the mids and treble. Anyone following my mutterings knows that if a headphone does not do it with female vocals I simply will not buy it (although lately have been listening to a lot of Hiromi)

 

But sound-stage, detail, separation and tonality is difficult to bracket as preference, unless you deliberately want less of those things :smile: With that said, some of the positive things written about the P5, I do not think people were aware of the crushed sound (and until B&W sorted out with the P7).

 

Had zero expectations of the P7 based on B&W past attempts. But it has been my primary travelling can since demo and purchase

post #538 of 920
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OK, you can put bass quantity down to personal preference but for me the P7 bass quantity is not overdone. Neither does it bleed into the mids and treble. Anyone following my mutterings knows that if a headphone does not do it with female vocals I simply will not buy it (although lately have been listening to a lot of Hiromi)

But sound-stage, detail, separation and tonality is difficult to bracket as preference, unless you deliberately want less of those things smile.gif With that said, some of the positive things written about the P5, I do not think people were aware of the crushed sound (and until B&W sorted out with the P7).

Had zero expectations of the P7 based on B&W past attempts. But it has been my primary travelling can since demo and purchase

Its too bad i didn't get impressed at all by the P7 when I tried it. I really need to give them another chance I feel.
post #539 of 920

Portable full size closed category in particular requires repeat demo for extended wearing fit and comfort. Typical smaller tighter sizing versus home full size cans really comes into play. The P7 would be my expectation to win for compromise between fit, stayability and comfort for most people imo. The M500 are light but slide around so would you even want to be running for the platform? Hmm. Also M500 cup dimensions and design does not do enough to isolate commuter environmental noise imo

 

Back to sound, if you cannot hear the "bigger" sound as I have described there is not a lot I can respond with. Perception is individual. If you cannot then consider it £70 saved (or however much the price difference is in your home market). Emphasise certainly did not want to like the P7 as M500 purchased only earlier this year. P7 ticked more boxes as a travel can *sigh*

post #540 of 920
Does this mean LFC_SL your M500s are completely redundant now?

It is also worth knowing whether the P7s need a long burn-in time, like with the P5s,before the sound opens up.

This might have a bearing on whether I need to try them out again! ;-)
Edited by mcook1970 - 10/27/13 at 1:24am
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