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post #466 of 916
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Originally Posted by snip3r77 View Post
How does the m500 compared to the beyer DT1350?

 

Seeing as I owned both of those: the M500 is way better! :D

 

More mid-range and bass overall on the M500, and less treble quantity. It's much closer to "neutral" than I've heard from any portable headphones, open or closed. When I owned the DT1350, its applicability to multiple genres was limited for me and I could never tolerate it for electronica or classical. The M500 was more versatile and was especially nice with any kind of music that used vocals. I also really liked its bass - deep and forceful, but not bloated.

 

I really, really liked the M500's sound, and I do plan to get another someday. Seriously the best-ever that I've heard from closed portable headphones since I first got into the market segment back in 2006.

 

Here's a review I wrote of the DT1350 btw: http://www.head-fi.org/t/666438/review-beyerdynamic-dt1350. I consider the M500 to be way better than both the DT1350 and V-MODA M-100 btw, and at the same price ($300), it's my instant recommendation for a $300 closed portable headphone.

post #467 of 916
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Originally Posted by Asr View Post
 

 

Seeing as I owned both of those: the M500 is way better! :D

 

More mid-range and bass overall on the M500, and less treble quantity. It's much closer to "neutral" than I've heard from any portable headphones, open or closed. When I owned the DT1350, its applicability to multiple genres was limited for me and I could never tolerate it for electronica or classical. The M500 was more versatile and was especially nice with any kind of music that used vocals. I also really liked its bass - deep and forceful, but not bloated.

 

I really, really liked the M500's sound, and I do plan to get another someday. Seriously the best-ever that I've heard from closed portable headphones since I first got into the market segment back in 2006.

 

Here's a review I wrote of the DT1350 btw: http://www.head-fi.org/t/666438/review-beyerdynamic-dt1350. I consider the M500 to be way better than both the DT1350 and V-MODA M-100 btw, and at the same price ($300), it's my instant recommendation for a $300 closed portable headphone.

 

ASR,

 

Thanks for your kind insight. I'm going to audition before I seal the deal.

 

Some questions

- How is the m500 comfort? Is it secured properly ( enough clamping force? )

- Isolation ? ( as I use it for commuting )

 

 

BTW, have you ever tried the Sennheiser Momentus , B&W P5? 

 

I think these few are those closed portable that has fashion sense. Is there anyone that I have not listed out for audition?

 

Thanks for your reply.

post #468 of 916
I'm not asr but i can answer some of yoyr questions haha. But as people previously have mentioned it's generally pretty comfortable but not very secure on your head and isolation is only average but not great.

I've read about the dt1350 having really good isolation but i don't own a pair so asr will have to tell you that one.
post #469 of 916
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Originally Posted by snip3r77 View Post
Some questions

- How is the m500 comfort? Is it secured properly ( enough clamping force? )

- Isolation ? ( as I use it for commuting )

 

BTW, have you ever tried the Sennheiser Momentus , B&W P5? 

 

It was very comfortable mostly because it didn't clamp much. The thickness of the earpads helped too, but they did tend to get a bit "sticky" on long listening sessions. Almost no clamp at all - if you tilt your head forwards or backwards, the headphones would probably fall off. As far as isolation: (1) It won't block much external noise and you'll still hear most of your environment, and (2) On the other hand, it doesn't leak that much, so others around you won't be disturbed unless you cranked up the volume. At low to moderate volume it shouldn't disturb anyone within 6 feet or so.

 

I've heard the Momentum but it was very briefly at a meet and I can't really say anything about it.

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post #471 of 916
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Originally Posted by snip3r77 View Post
 

 

ASR,

 

Thanks for your kind insight. I'm going to audition before I seal the deal.

 

Some questions

- How is the m500 comfort? Is it secured properly ( enough clamping force? )

- Isolation ? ( as I use it for commuting )

 

 

BTW, have you ever tried the Sennheiser Momentus , B&W P5? 

 

I think these few are those closed portable that has fashion sense. Is there anyone that I have not listed out for audition?

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

I did an A/B comparison between Momentum and M500. In terms of comfort, the M500 is very comfortable for an on-ear model. Still though, after 2-3 hours it started to hurt my ears because of the pressure. So for me personally, that ruled out the M500, as I want to be able to listen to it for at least 5 hours without any significant pain. The clamping force is very light, but you'll probably still feel it after a few hours.

 

Also in terms of isolation, it doesn't isolate you from outside noise very well. However, it will not leak any sound at normal listening volumes. I tested this with a microphone at about 3 feet (1 meter) away and it didn't pick up any noise.

 

The Momentum is more comfortable, provided that you can get your ears to fit in there. Still think it's lame that Sennheiser made the earcups so small, they should've made them a couple of mm larger, it would greatly improve the comfort. But I managed to find a decent fit after a lot of fidgeting, so in the end I chose the Momentum over the M500, eventhough I think on many genres of music the M500 sounds a bit better. Comfort was my main criteria, sound came second.

post #472 of 916
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Originally Posted by starfly View Post
 

 

I did an A/B comparison between Momentum and M500. In terms of comfort, the M500 is very comfortable for an on-ear model. Still though, after 2-3 hours it started to hurt my ears because of the pressure. So for me personally, that ruled out the M500, as I want to be able to listen to it for at least 5 hours without any significant pain. The clamping force is very light, but you'll probably still feel it after a few hours.

 

Also in terms of isolation, it doesn't isolate you from outside noise very well. However, it will not leak any sound at normal listening volumes. I tested this with a microphone at about 3 feet (1 meter) away and it didn't pick up any noise.

 

The Momentum is more comfortable, provided that you can get your ears to fit in there. Still think it's lame that Sennheiser made the earcups so small, they should've made them a couple of mm larger, it would greatly improve the comfort. But I managed to find a decent fit after a lot of fidgeting, so in the end I chose the Momentum over the M500, eventhough I think on many genres of music the M500 sounds a bit better. Comfort was my main criteria, sound came second.

 

The M500 is even more picky when it comes to placement than the Momentum is, in my opinion. I really need to place them "just right" on the ears or they won't be comfortable after an hour. 

post #473 of 916

^ agree

post #474 of 916

I just got my M500 from Amazon and I have to say...they're pretty damn nice. Compared to the Momentums and 1R, I'm digging these more.

 

Edit: But I definitely wouldn't want to use these phones for any physical activities that requires a lot of head movement.


Edited by Kermy - 10/7/13 at 11:09am
post #475 of 916

Is everyone having seal issues with both ears, or just on one of them? I can't even seal my left ear at all, but my right ear has no problem. I think I may have done some massive damage to my ear. I'm that desperate to get that full sound! I know there are tip changes you guys are going through, but I don't have that same opportunity due to having only melec tips at my disposal. Right now I'm ordering the ue900 tips and was hoping someone could chime in here. I can get my left earphone stuck in my ear, but without that nice seal. I keep thinking it's because the earphone doesn't fit my left, which is why I forced it in there. :( 


Edited by vlenbo - 10/7/13 at 7:56pm
post #476 of 916
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Originally Posted by vlenbo View Post
 

Is everyone having seal issues with both ears, or just on one of them? I can't even seal my left ear at all, but my right ear has no problem. I think I may have done some massive damage to my ear. I'm that desperate to get that full sound! I know there are tip changes you guys are going through, but I don't have that same opportunity due to having only melec tips at my disposal. Right now I'm ordering the ue900 tips and was hoping someone could chime in here. I can get my left earphone stuck in my ear, but without that nice seal. I keep thinking it's because the earphone doesn't fit my left, which is why I forced it in there. :( 

 

I too have seal issue only on one side. I use biflange meelec. Works fine but can sometimes be hard to keep the seal... This is the reason why I don't take the M200 outside (and also because of the poor isolation). But when I have the seal, I am in heaven...

post #477 of 916
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Originally Posted by denis View Post
 

 

I too have seal issue only on one side. I use biflange meelec. Works fine but can sometimes be hard to keep the seal... This is the reason why I don't take the M200 outside (and also because of the poor isolation). But when I have the seal, I am in heaven...

 

That stinks, at least you get to hear the awesome sounds of m200! I still don't know if I hear the awesome bass that everyone is going on about. The quantity, ironically, is not enough for me. Ironically because the bassos provided that, this earphone does the same amount of quantity as the bassos, probably a bit more. I have to admit that the mids are just as nice as the es700's, as well as the highs. The highs are a bit close to sibilant with my ears, however. Yet, I do not know if I have sealed properly, I don't hear a bubble sound when I remove them, unless that is just for in ears. I keep thinking these were to be deep fitted, but I realized that everyone was right, the earphones shouldn't be inserted deep at all, I thought I would have bled my ears because of my foolishness.

post #478 of 916
Just got my KEFM500. I will let it run for few days and then I will compare with my DT1350 and M100...
post #479 of 916

Has anyone compared M500 to AKG K550?

post #480 of 916
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Originally Posted by dragoonv View Post

Just got my KEFM500. I will let it run for few days and then I will compare with my DT1350 and M100...

 

WOW thanks

 

Since I'd be using for commuting, as long as it's comfortable for an hour I'm fine. I would like to know the isolation and some one also mentioned that it's not that tight and maybe when you're running to catch the transport it might sleep.

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